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02-14-2012, 07:09 PM
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Guys, Dave Hodge has narrowed down the trade destinations for Rick Nash on his twitter account -

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Rick Nash says he will veto any trade to a team that is worse than Columbus.
That should help focus the rumors of where he might land.
Haha That's Priceless

Proving once again Hodge is a Genius

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02-14-2012, 07:11 PM
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I`d offer 2 years 2.2 a year easy.
Same here. My limit for him would be 2 years and 2.5 million

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I think JVR + Bobrovsky for Nash could be a workable scenario. I could see Nash in Philly.

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To bad hockey isnt played with a calculator. No matter what the Satzis will tell you.
The world is governed by statistics and trends though not always numerical, and that is how predictions are made. I fail to see how expecting RNH to carry a line because he is a first overall and has not done that in the NHL seems like a logical thought. You dont need a calculator to tell you that. The trend for number 1 picks doesn't even support your assertion. Seen Rick Nash recently? How about Patty Kane? He has all-star teammates and is struggling.

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I think JVR + Bobrovsky for Nash could be a workable scenario. I could see Nash in Philly.
That might just work. Don't see any reason for either side not to do that actually.

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I'd be more interested in Jeff Carter to be honest, but not sure how much we could offer.

MPS + Omark + EDM 2nd for Carter?

Sign Penner as a UFA for a couple of years, draft Murray/Dumba ...

Hall RNH Eberle
Penner Carter Gagner
Smyth Horcoff Jones
Eager Belanger Lander

Whitney Gilbert
Smid Murray
Petry Sutton

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02-14-2012, 07:34 PM
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That might just work. Don't see any reason for either side not to do that actually.
Don't say that to Jackets fans, that would be a pretty low return for Nash.
JVR is a HUGE downgrade and Bobrovsky has proven nothing.

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I would rather shoot myself in the nuts.

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I'd be more interested in Jeff Carter to be honest, but not sure how much we could offer.

MPS + Omark + EDM 2nd for Carter?

Sign Penner as a UFA for a couple of years, draft Murray/Dumba ...

Hall RNH Eberle
Penner Carter Gagner
Smyth Horcoff Jones
Eager Belanger Lander

Whitney Gilbert
Smid Murray
Petry Sutton
Absolutely NO to Jeff Carter, i wouldn't even take him for free. His contract and the chance that he would disrupt the locker room are reasons enough to stay away from him. Plus i HIGHLY doubt that he would be happy partying err playing in Edmonton.

Penner might be an interesting stopgap solution but i don't think that he fits the up tempo style of play that this team is being built to play, he already was starting to look out of place last year.
We should be targeting big, fast and aggressive players not big, slow and aggressive when they only want to be players.

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I think JVR + Bobrovsky for Nash could be a workable scenario. I could see Nash in Philly.
Philly would probably have to toss a defenseman back, caps reasons as much as anything.

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Absolutely NO to Jeff Carter, i wouldn't even take him for free. His contract and the chance that he would disrupt the locker room are reasons enough to stay away from him. Plus i HIGHLY doubt that he would be happy partying err playing in Edmonton.
Exactly.

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Please GM's and your evil minions, don't make any trades before Trade Deadline Day.

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TSN to host 1 hour special for Mike Knuble's "The decision"?

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Washington Capitals forward Mike Knuble says if he’s not part of the team’s immediate plans, then it might be best to send his talents elsewhere.
Per main board.

I hope he takes his talents to Florida(ie gets traded there). Only for the potential head lines.

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I'd be more interested in Jeff Carter to be honest, but not sure how much we could offer.

MPS + Omark + EDM 2nd for Carter?

Sign Penner as a UFA for a couple of years, draft Murray/Dumba ...

Hall RNH Eberle
Penner Carter Gagner
Smyth Horcoff Jones
Eager Belanger Lander

Whitney Gilbert
Smid Murray
Petry Sutton
I don't mind your thinking, though Penner would be just silly.

However I don't see the Oilers with space for both Carter and Horcoff

Maybe you could do something like this.

To CLB: Horcoff, Gagner, PRV and Peckham

To Edm: Carter, Brassard/Methot (salary dump)

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Don't say that to Jackets fans, that would be a pretty low return for Nash.
JVR is a HUGE downgrade and Bobrovsky has proven nothing.
Minus the injury issues, JVR is coming along quite decently, and Bobrovsky has pretty good stats, especially for a goalie of his age. I'd say Philly should add something small, but as the main pieces to the deal, I don't see why not

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TSN to host 1 hour special for Mike Knuble's "The decision"?



Per main board.

I hope he takes his talents to Florida. Only for the potential head lines.
You'd have to think he's dealt to the West, because the last thing the Caps want (or need) his Knuble helping an Eastern conference team beat the Caps out of the playoffs.

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I don't mind your thinking, though Penner would be just silly.

However I don't see the Oilers with space for both Carter and Horcoff

Maybe you could do something like this.

To CLB: Horcoff, Gagner, PRV and Peckham

To Edm: Carter, Brassard/Methot (salary dump)
It's not worth giving up Gagner just to move Horcoff imo. Horcoff actually might have some appeal to Columbus though since his cap hit is higher than his actual pay for most of his remaining years

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Dreger basically said that the team that takes Nash will get Carter and his contract for free. So any team can have Nash and Carter for the price of Nash alone as long as you take Carter and his contract with him.......interesting twist........this has L.A. written all over it. Bernier, Voynov, Brown, Penner, and a 1st 2012. Columbus gets four pieces and a 1st. Fair value??

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Minus the injury issues, JVR is coming along quite decently, and Bobrovsky has pretty good stats, especially for a goalie of his age. I'd say Philly should add something small, but as the main pieces to the deal, I don't see why not
JVR has potential but he has never topped 21 goals and 40 pts in a season and is not exactly setting the league on fire this season.
Bobrovsky had a good season 2 years ago but so did Steve Mason. Bobrovsky at this point is no better than Dubnyk.

I highly doubt that Howson looks at these as the main centerpieces for their franchise player. He could do a lot better than that for Nash IMO.

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Boychuk signed with BOS, it doesn't seem like there are going to be that many good UFAs. It looks like we will have to continue with the rebuild. I can see another very long year next year also. It is not going to get better until our dmen prospects start to develop.

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JVR has potential but he has never topped 21 goals and 40 pts in a season and is not exactly setting the league on fire this season.
Bobrovsky had a good season 2 years ago but so did Steve Mason. Bobrovsky at this point is no better than Dubnyk.

I highly doubt that Howson looks at these as the main centerpieces for their franchise player. He could do a lot better than that for Nash IMO.
Bobrovsky had a good year LAST year. He was in the KHL prior (playing well...). He's also not playing too bad this year either. And Mason's good year was 3 years ago. He's been craptacular in comparison to Bobrovsky

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Dreger basically said that the team that takes Nash will get Carter and his contract for free. So any team can have Nash and Carter for the price of Nash alone as long as you take Carter and his contract with him.......interesting twist........this has L.A. written all over it. Bernier, Voynov, Brown, Penner, and a 1st 2012. Columbus gets four pieces and a 1st. Fair value??
That's some weird **** right there. Basically they are admitting that they screwed the pooch on the Carter deal.

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Boychuk signed with BOS, it doesn't seem like there are going to be that many good UFAs. It looks like we will have to continue with the rebuild. I can see another very long year next year also. It is not going to get better until our dmen prospects start to develop.
Yep and it's just going to mean UFA's are going to be even more severely overpaid this offseason. Even if we could get another dman, I'm not sure we want to any more

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Dreger basically said that the team that takes Nash will get Carter and his contract for free. So any team can have Nash and Carter for the price of Nash alone as long as you take Carter and his contract with him.......interesting twist........this has L.A. written all over it. Bernier, Voynov, Brown, Penner, and a 1st 2012. Columbus gets four pieces and a 1st. Fair value??
I wonder if that means we could offer them like a 3rd and get Carter?

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Boychuk signed with BOS, it doesn't seem like there are going to be that many good UFAs. It looks like we will have to continue with the rebuild. I can see another very long year next year also. It is not going to get better until our dmen prospects start to develop.
I think that Klefbom and Murray have a chance next year. Marincin(AHL), Blain(AHL), Musil(AHL), Davidson(AHL) should all get their chance soon. Gernat will play another year of junior I would guess(I think he can go back?).

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Bobrovsky had a good year LAST year. He was in the KHL prior (playing well...). He's also not playing too bad this year either. And Mason's good year was 3 years ago. He's been craptacular in comparison to Bobrovsky
Doh!!! You're right, it was last year but he started struggling as the year went on to the point of losing his starting job and has been subpar this year. He has a .902 Save%. As i said before, is he really that much better than Dubnyk? Not really.

Columbus would be better served to look at somebody like Schneider++ or Bernier++ if they are looking for an elite young goalie in return for Nash.

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