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02-14-2012, 09:58 PM
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I can't be the only one who'd consider 8-10 year contracts for our kids would I?
meh, i suppose, but i'd want really safe cap hits, and its like well i could offer you 50/10

but they'd reasonably expect 45/7, 40/6, 33/5

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New CBA. To be determined obviously but I got a feeling the owners are going to win this one.
well if there is a rollback and a decrease in the cap, sure 30/6 might work, but it would still exceed tavares. i also expect them to exceed toews and kane.

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Would 60 mil for 10 years be reasonable for RNH/Hall/Eberle?

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Question for our peeps, guys like JM Liles were traded for a 2nd round pick in the past, what kind of D man could we get for a 2nd this year or something simliar like decent prospect or 2 and 4?

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02-14-2012, 10:03 PM
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Question for our peeps, guys like JM Liles were traded for a 2nd round pick in the past, what kind of D man could we get for a 2nd this year or something simliar like decent prospect or 2 and 4?
i dont understand this part.


and i have no idea whos available.

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Would 60 mil for 10 years be reasonable for RNH/Hall/Eberle?
thats pretty good for us i suppose, although if they have any greed at all in them, theyd want a higher cap hit.

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New CBA. To be determined obviously but I got a feeling the owners are going to win this one.
They won the last one.....

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02-14-2012, 10:06 PM
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because of his contract. To our team at least, I believe it would be unwise to have that kind of contract when trying to sign three superstars in the near future.
I can understand to us, but if they are saying you get Carter with Nash I just can't believe it.

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i dont understand this part.


and i have no idea whos available.
Sorry i'm running on little sleep a 2nd plus a 4th.

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As for ten year deals maybe they disappear.

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02-14-2012, 10:08 PM
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I personal think no player I mean no player should get more than a 5 year term. Carter , Richards & Nash etc. should be reason enough when players are carrying that long of a contract it becomes very hard to get value for them in a trade

Things always change so why get got with untradable assests

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Sorry i'm running on little sleep a 2nd plus a 4th.
Given the lack of d I'd say maybe komisarek or redden

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02-14-2012, 10:12 PM
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dustin penner's days are numbered


1st and teubert

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02-14-2012, 10:14 PM
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So Chicago loses #8 in a row on a softie by Emery. Crawford hasn`t been able to stop anything since Gagner lit him up.

Tambellini says hes probably gonna keep Khabbi. That's code for up the ante Chicago I'm guessing. All the talk about Chicago`s interest has to have some legs. They need to do something soon. Now we just have to hope Tambi and Co. are smart enough to see that Khabi isnt the answer for us and we need to start looking elsewhere. They couldn't screw this up could they?

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02-14-2012, 10:22 PM
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Could screw us up for next year unless the oilers bring in a different goalie in the off season.

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02-14-2012, 10:27 PM
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Could screw us up for next year unless the oilers bring in a different goalie in the off season.
We are screwed sooner or later. What happens if two years from now ends up being THE year for us and we held onto Khabibulin till his contract expired instead of finding future goalies? We better get a move on.

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02-14-2012, 10:28 PM
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Could screw us up for next year unless the oilers bring in a different goalie in the off season.
what do you mean? khabby was a sub .900 goalie in his first two years with us, was a .964 goalie for 9 games this year, and has since reverted back to a sub .900 goalie.



tambo should be calling chi everyday selling him? 8 in a row enough for a shakeup boys?


dont even need to get anything back. take a flyer on a ufa this summer and see if he works out, or maybe even make a bold move on an RFA.

i'd really like to see dubnyk stay but with another youngish starterish looking goalie without committing a big contract to either.

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02-14-2012, 10:32 PM
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Anyone think we could work something around Hemsky and Stafford ?Really think staff would be a GOOD FIT as a second line RW.

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02-14-2012, 10:38 PM
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Anyone think we could work something around Hemsky and Stafford ?Really think staff would be a GOOD FIT as a second line RW.
dont like his contract in relation to his production

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02-14-2012, 10:42 PM
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Its 56 and I thought stats were for losers nobody in here backtracks and contridicts themselves as bad as you.
you dont need a calculator for stats that matter. Wins, goals, assists, points. PPG doesnt matter if a player is always hurt. Hurt players have no value. They actually have negative value as they are using up commited cap space while sitting in the PB.

the oilers have played 55 games, Gagner has 36 points in those 55 games. 36/55=0.65*82=53 points. simple math. If you are going to insist that PPG is the only way to judge a player you need to do it fairly to reflect his value to the team.

You can continue along with everyone else to judge a player based off of a 5 game sample. I choose the 5 year sample. I shows what Gagner is. A streaky, below average defensive, above average offensive 2nd line C. Unfortunatly he is the best option this team has, but he needs to show more than he has over the past 4 years to be good enough on a cup contending team. I dont think I have contridicted my self or back tracked at all when it comes to Gagner, and I would still glady deal him if we could get a top pairing Dman back, but by doing that you plug one hole and create another. Gagner is not the problem the problem is lack of depth from top to bottom of the lineup.

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02-14-2012, 10:43 PM
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dont like his contract in relation to his production

Looks better than what Hemsky's does right now.

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02-14-2012, 10:45 PM
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If Columbus were to take Horcoff, would you take Nash's contract?

Say Horcoff, MPS, 2012 1st for Nash?

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02-14-2012, 10:47 PM
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The world is governed by statistics and trends though not always numerical, and that is how predictions are made. I fail to see how expecting RNH to carry a line because he is a first overall and has not done that in the NHL seems like a logical thought. You dont need a calculator to tell you that. The trend for number 1 picks doesn't even support your assertion. Seen Rick Nash recently? How about Patty Kane? He has all-star teammates and is struggling.
So Kane and Nash struggle for 30 games and they are no longer considered stars,
why? because Sam Gagner had an out of body experiance for 5 games? Both those guys have proven they can do it for years. Gagner hasnt proven he can do it for more than 10 games.

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02-14-2012, 10:50 PM
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Khabibulin will likely stay in Edmonton due to the year left on the deal, but if he does get dealt, Chicago is the most likely destination. He can be a great goalie on a team that has good defense. I don't know if we'll get a roster player for him because of that year left on the deal though. Likely just a pick.

I still see Hemsky being in play. His trade value is going up every day, not because of how he's playing, but because of what's happening to similar players that also may be in play at the deadline. If Tambellini can get anything decent for Hemsky, the next couple weeks will be the time.

I don't thing Gagner will be dealt.

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02-14-2012, 10:53 PM
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Khabibulin will likely stay in Edmonton due to the year left on the deal, but if he does get dealt, Chicago is the most likely destination. He can be a great goalie on a team that has good defense. I don't know if we'll get a roster player for him because of that year left on the deal though. Likely just a pick.

I still see Hemsky being in play. His trade value is going up every day, not because of how he's playing, but because of what's happening to similar players that also may be in play at the deadline. If Tambellini can get anything decent for Hemsky, the next couple weeks will be the time.

I don't thing Gagner will be dealt.
I think you are right on all 3.

Dealing Gagner would only create a hole in the #2C spot.

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