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02-21-2012, 05:17 PM
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Not sure which years he was with Mahovlich but I bolded his Toronto years.

55, 48, 46, 42, 38, 37, 37, 35, 33, 33, 28, 28, 25, 19*, 18, 17

*19 points total in 1964, 16 in TOR + 3 in NYR

Here's the rest split up,

64-71 NYR: 48, 42, 37, 37, 35, 25, 18, 3 (in '64)

72-73 MNS: 28, 17

74-76 LAK: 55, 38, 33

He posted some better numbers away from Toronto so it couldn't have just been the Big M, no?
Nevin played with Mahovlich and Kelly in his first two seasons. In 62-63 he split between Mahovlich/Kelly and Pulford/other, and was with Pulford in 63-64. In NY he played with Marshall and Goyette through 68-69. Played with Butch Goring in LA.

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1966 Undrafteds
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1970 undrafted*-Ullman
1971 undrafted*-Ullman
1972 undrafted*-Ullman
1973 undrafteds-Keon
1974 undrafted*-Ullman
1975 Sittler/Ullman/other
77-78 and on: undrafteds.

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02-21-2012, 05:22 PM
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If the team is as weak as NYR was.
I don't think the Rangers were as bad as you think they were. They made the playoffs twice when Laprade was there.

In 1948, Laprade finished 3rd in NHL assists, 12th in NHL scoring, and 2nd in scoring on his team. The Rangers were 4th out of 6 teams in the standings, and scored at exactly the league average in goals for (176).

In 1949, Laprade had a down season offensively (though still finished 3rd on the team), but was voted co-MVP of the Rangers. That season, the Rangers were indeed last in the league in the standings and offense.

In 1950, the season Laprade led the Rangers in scoring (and was voted MVP of the Rangers outright), he was 17th in the NHL in scoring. The Rangers were 4th of 6 teams in the standings. They were last in the league in offense with 170 goals, but only 6 goals behind 4th place.

Edit: In 1950, Laprade was very close to being a 2nd Team All Star at Center. He actually got a single first place vote and one more top 3 vote than Ted Kennedy:

CENTER: (50/54, 6-6-2) Sid Abel, Det 21 (3-2-0); Ted Kennedy, Tor 16 (2-2-0); Edgar Laprade, NYR 13 (1-2-2); Metro Prystai, Chi; Milt Schmidt, Bos


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I don't think the Rangers were as bad as you think they were. They made the playoffs twice when Laprade was there.
During his first seven seasons (his peak), the New York Rangers had a best points percentage of .479 and a cumulative points percentage of .425

That is a pretty bad team. They were also the lowest scoring team in the NHL in 5 of the 7 years.

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02-21-2012, 05:49 PM
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During his first seven seasons (his peak), the New York Rangers had a best points percentage of .479 and a cumulative points percentage of .425

That is a pretty bad team. They were also the lowest scoring team in the NHL in 5 of the 7 years.
Well yeah, if a team in a 6 team era was good offensively, their top scorers would be viable scoring line players in the ATD. I just can't see some of these modern checkers being among the best offensive players on a team in a 6 team era, even for a bad team.

Poulin... maybe, he was a good offensive player early in his career. Though in his career high 76 point season, he scored 6 PPG.

There is no way Peca is particularly close to as good offensively as Laprade. Peca was given loads of ice time during his career, including on the powerplay.

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02-21-2012, 05:51 PM
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Nevin played with Mahovlich and Kelly in his first two seasons. In 62-63 he split between Mahovlich/Kelly and Pulford/other, and was with Pulford in 63-64. In NY he played with Marshall and Goyette through 68-69. Played with Butch Goring in LA.

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1965 Mahovlich-Keon
1966 Undrafteds
1967 Mahovlich-Kelly
1968 Pulford-undrafteds
1969 Keon/Ullman/undrafted
1970 undrafted*-Ullman
1971 undrafted*-Ullman
1972 undrafted*-Ullman
1973 undrafteds-Keon
1974 undrafted*-Ullman
1975 Sittler/Ullman/other
77-78 and on: undrafteds.

*same LW
Thanks very much for posting that, I would have spent hours searching google archives to get a tenth of it

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02-21-2012, 06:06 PM
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Thanks very much for posting that, I would have spent hours searching google archives to get a tenth of it
No problem. I have a sheet set up where I can pull up a report in a few seconds for any player in the seasons the HSP covers.

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02-21-2012, 07:22 PM
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There is no way Peca is particularly close to as good offensively as Laprade. Peca was given loads of ice time during his career, including on the powerplay.
I don't think anyone has said Peca is close to Laprade offensively. That would be patently false.

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02-21-2012, 07:38 PM
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Players I will not be drafting, ever:

1. Jonas Gustavsson




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1. Jonas Gustavsson




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02-21-2012, 08:38 PM
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Gustavsson is unbelievably terrible.

He literally just knocked a point shot that was going a foot wide into his own net. In overtime.

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I feel sorry for Leaf fans sometimes, I really do.

Speaking from experience, don't expect Burke to fix the goaltending. Canuck fans know that oh too painfully with the ****ing Cloutier era.

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It's pretty frustrating to lose a game 4-3 when 3 of the goals are flat out terrible. Two weak fivehole goals, and then that atrocity in overtime. We're just flat out going to miss the playoffs unless one of the goalies starts playing like an NHLer.

I...I want Ty Conklin.

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It's pretty frustrating to lose a game 4-3 when 3 of the goals are flat out terrible. Two weak fivehole goals, and then that atrocity in overtime. We're just flat out going to miss the playoffs unless one of the goalies starts playing like an NHLer.

I...I want Ty Conklin.
Something around Cory Schneider for Schenn, lets doooo it.

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done, let me get Burke on the phone

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02-21-2012, 09:05 PM
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Gustavsson is unbelievably terrible.

He literally just knocked a point shot that was going a foot wide into his own net. In overtime.
The way you describe it reminds me of this doozy from Marty:




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The Pittsburgh Bankers select F/W Jack Darragh

This was a weird pick for me. I almost took Jack Darragh with my last 3 picks, but I'm glad I waited I never thought he would fall this far. Jack Darragh was known for his clutch goal-scoring, speed, and a great back-hand shot from the Right Wing. It has been said that he might have had the best back-hand shot in history untill Maurice Richard came along. I know the playoffs were a lot shorter in his playing days than they are now, but I really like the fact he's a proven playoff player with 2 retro Conn Smythe trophies and I beileve 1 or 2 stanley cup winning goals. Jack Darragh and Dick Duff definately will elevate there play in big games and I'm happy to have both of them.


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02-21-2012, 09:42 PM
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Garnish selects pre-NHL star Left Winger Rusty Crawford.



Some stats on Crawford:

- 159 Goals in 299 Career Games throughout different pro leagues
- Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1962
- Renowned for his speed and longevity
- Scored 51 goals in 61 games over a 3 year period

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I've pmed the next guys up.

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Garnish selects pre-NHL star Left Winger Rusty Crawford.

[IMG]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5094/5420178363_9de4e20d1a.jpg/IMG]

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- 159 Goals in 299 Career Games throughout different pro leagues
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- Scored 51 goals in 61 games over a 3 year period

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Great Pick. I almost took him

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Great Pick. I almost took him
Thanks needed an old-timer as well as a goal scorer on my left wing, Crawford fills both needs.

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Thanks needed an old-timer as well as a goal scorer on my left wing, Crawford fills both needs.
Why did you need an old-timer exactrly? What difference does it make?

Just curious.

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Stoneberg selects hardcore Communist

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I thought Rusty was gone already. Good pick. He played centre as well.

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I thought Rusty was gone already. Good pick. He played centre as well.
Yeah, I crossed him off a while ago....

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Bah, he knew what the deal was.

I haven't received any threatening PM's for the 5 Russians on team Dawson City, so I think you're good.

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Looking to move up from 451th , any offer will be strongly considered

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