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02-16-2012, 02:46 PM
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And Kruger was a prodigy in the SEL and hasn't shown much in the NHL. SEL does not equal the NHL
Ruh roh...now you done it. Bubba's gonna be all over you on this one!

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And Kruger was a prodigy in the SEL and hasn't shown much in the NHL. SEL does not equal the NHL
Kruger has been solid

And not sure what you expect from a 21 yr old rookie who has played

4th line C
3rd line C
3rd line RW
3rd line LW
2nd line C

This year

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02-16-2012, 03:25 PM
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Kruger has been solid

And not sure what you expect from a 21 yr old rookie who has played

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This year
People were comparing Kruger in the SEL to Zetterberg. At 22 Zetterberg put up 22 goals and 48 points. Kruger has 15 points (5 goals) through 54 career games.

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People were comparing Kruger in the SEL to Zetterberg. At 22 Zetterberg put up 22 goals and 48 points. Kruger has 15 points (5 goals) through 54 career games.
And Kruger is not 22 yet so why compare him to Zetterberg at 22?

And who compared Kruger to Zetts?

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People were comparing Kruger in the SEL to Zetterberg. At 22 Zetterberg put up 22 goals and 48 points. Kruger has 15 points (5 goals) through 54 career games.
Kruger did well for his age but absolutely did not dominate that league in the same way as Salak.

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And Kruger is not 22 yet so why compare him to Zetterberg at 22?

And who compared Kruger to Zetts?
I cannot remember who, it was probably Bubba. Comparing Kruger at age 19 in the SEL to Zetterberg at the same age in that league. Point wasn't to say Kruger is or isn't a good player, just that producing in the SEL and prodcing in the NHL are two totally seperate things. Just because Salak, like Kruger, was great in the SEL doesn't mean he's going to be great, or even good, in the NHL.

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I cannot remember who, it was probably Bubba. Comparing Kruger at age 19 in the SEL to Zetterberg at the same age in that league. Point wasn't to say Kruger is or isn't a good player, just that producing in the SEL and prodcing in the NHL are two totally seperate things. Just because Salak, like Kruger, was great in the SEL doesn't mean he's going to be great, or even good, in the NHL.
Salak was on a whole different level than Kruger. Salak was the best goalie in the league, Kruger was not the best forward in the league.

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Salak was on a whole different level than Kruger. Salak was the best goalie in the league, Kruger was not the best forward in the league.
Right now he's sitting about 33rd in save percentage in the AHL.

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Right now he's sitting about 33rd in save percentage in the AHL.
Salak has proven himself outside the NHL over the years. He's done with that. It's about getting healthy. He seem like he has by evidence of his play since coming back.

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02-16-2012, 03:49 PM
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And 2 years ago he ended the AHL season 22nd in save percentage. He's just not that good.

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And 2 years ago he ended the AHL season 22nd in save percentage. He's just not that good.
The team was run and gun, had a rough finish and his numbers suffered. I've seen enough of this guy play to know he could be successful in the NHL. He just needs a real opportunity. I may end up looking stupid, or a very long list of people here may end up looking stupid, but I believe in him.

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The team was run and gun, had a rough finish and his numbers suffered. I've seen enough of this guy play to know he could be successful in the NHL. He just needs a real opportunity. I may end up looking stupid, or a very long list of people here may end up looking stupid, but I believe in him.
I hope you are right and I was pumped to see him this preseason and I thought he didn't look very good. I thought Emery absolutely outplayed him in preseason action this year.

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I hope you are right and I was pumped to see him this preseason and I thought he didn't look very good. I thought Emery absolutely outplayed him in preseason action this year.
Nevermind, I really don't want to dig up old bones.

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Since getting over the injuries and coming back, he is 54 of 56 in saves. That's squat?
and that comes from playing in Rockford no less where are our D is even worse than the big team. Lord knows why they haven't called him up yet.

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I cannot remember who, it was probably Bubba. Comparing Kruger at age 19 in the SEL to Zetterberg at the same age in that league. Point wasn't to say Kruger is or isn't a good player, just that producing in the SEL and prodcing in the NHL are two totally seperate things. Just because Salak, like Kruger, was great in the SEL doesn't mean he's going to be great, or even good, in the NHL.
It wasn't Bubba, nor was it I.

A former coach of Zetterberg said Kruger, at the same age, was more advanced in his developement.

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Kruger at age 21-22 playing in NHL
Zetterberg at age 21-22 playing in SEL.

Kruger needs to put on some weight and improve quite a bit, but he still has lots of time.

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And 2 years ago he ended the AHL season 22nd in save percentage. He's just not that good.
I'm with you, and I also hope I am wrong.

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Kruger has also said that Zetterberg is the player he tries to model his game after

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Kruger has also said that Zetterberg is the player he tries to model his game after
Hes failing miserably.

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Hes failing miserably.
Nah.

When Z was Kruger's age, he made his living on playing good D. Kruger is currently making his living the same way.

Offense didn't catch up with Zetts until later, and I honestly think that the same will be said for Kruger.

He's got the heart and the brains. All he really needs is some bulk. Extra confidence wouldn't hurt either.

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And Kruger was a prodigy in the SEL and hasn't shown much in the NHL. SEL does not equal the NHL
Krüger in the SEL = Krüger in the NHL

He never dominated or was a force (like Granlund is in the SMLiga) in the SEL. He played the same style of game for Djurgarden.
Hard working, willing to do the dirty work and play with effort. Goalscoring isn't his strenght and wasn't in the SEL. He was more confident in his offense. In the NHL, I see him as solid #2/3 Center that will score 10+ goals and 30+ assists a year while playing good/great D

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I cannot remember who, it was probably Bubba. Comparing Kruger at age 19 in the SEL to Zetterberg at the same age in that league. Point wasn't to say Kruger is or isn't a good player, just that producing in the SEL and prodcing in the NHL are two totally seperate things. Just because Salak, like Kruger, was great in the SEL doesn't mean he's going to be great, or even good, in the NHL.
It was coaching legend Hardy Nielson who said that


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Hes failing miserably.
that 21 year old guys suck. They aren't even as good as Conn Smythe winners

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I wouldn't be shocked if Salak got a couple starts this year if he stays healthy.

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I would like to see Salak get a look. He can't be worse than what we have, right? I wouldn't want to waive Emery though. Send down Shaw for a bit to get his groove back.

I feel like other people would be in favor of this but it is so damn hard with the annoyingness of Coldsteel. It is the same thing with Kruger and Bubba. Bubba nut hugs Kruger to no end until people actually start to despise him. Kruger was loved around here before he got to the NHL and Bubba started putting him on a pedestal for no reason.

Then Coldsteel starts tearing Emery a new one and everyone starts rooting for him. His blind hatred just got so tiring and annoying that Emery became popular here. It seemed like every post in the preseason from Coldsteel was about how Emery suck, how we are screwed with Emery, ect. It is some weird, weird obsession that he has and everyone wanted Coldsteel to be wrong because of how foolish he looked.

Meh, just my opinion. I do think that Salak deserves a look though. He played decent in preseason and has done well in other leagues. He is also very hot right now in the AHL and could steal us a couple games.. you never know. Give him a shot IMO.

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How's it look now?

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I would like to see Salak get a look. He can't be worse than what we have, right? I wouldn't want to waive Emery though. Send down Shaw for a bit to get his groove back.

I feel like other people would be in favor of this but it is so damn hard with the annoyingness of Coldsteel. It is the same thing with Kruger and Bubba. Bubba nut hugs Kruger to no end until people actually start to despise him. Kruger was loved around here before he got to the NHL and Bubba started putting him on a pedestal for no reason.

Then Coldsteel starts tearing Emery a new one and everyone starts rooting for him. His blind hatred just got so tiring and annoying that Emery became popular here. It seemed like every post in the preseason from Coldsteel was about how Emery suck, how we are screwed with Emery, ect. It is some weird, weird obsession that he has and everyone wanted Coldsteel to be wrong because of how foolish he looked.

Meh, just my opinion. I do think that Salak deserves a look though. He played decent in preseason and has done well in other leagues. He is also very hot right now in the AHL and could steal us a couple games.. you never know. Give him a shot IMO.
People don't despise Krüger because he isn't physical and doesn't score enough points for them, not because of me

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