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02-14-2012, 09:34 PM
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Three things I would try:

After watching them go 3-5-0 since the Team-Minus-One visit to WH:

1. Seguin to center.

2. Corvo out, insert Kampfer

3. Hand Rask three straight starts.

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After watching them go 3-5-0 since the Team-Minus-One visit to WH:

1. Seguin to center.

2. Corvo out, insert Kampfer

3. Hand Rask three straight starts.

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Um... Yeah.

Pushing who to wing? What do your new lines look like?

I think the team needs a little something.

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Put Krejci back with Lucic, the experiment isn't working

Get rid of Corvo

upgrade Caron & Pouliot

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After watching them go 3-5-0 since the Team-Minus-One visit to WH:

1. Seguin to center.

2. Corvo out, insert Kampfer

3. Hand Rask three straight starts.

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1. No

2. Lol. No.

3. Maybe.

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Um... Yeah.

Pushing who to wing? What do your new lines look like?

I think the team needs a little something.


One ES goal (Paille) in three games. Not sure line components concern, but...

17-46-49

63-37-38

20-19-23

67-11-22

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1. No

2. Lol. No.

3. Maybe.
I don't know why the second suggestion is laughable.

Yeah, Kampfer isn't very good. But at least he puts some effort in to being contained. Corvo has been awful in blinking neon lights... I'd rather watch the former right now.

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well my 3 things i would to is a pipe dream but lets give it a shot

1. Call the Jets and say lets make a deal for Kane involving only prospects and picks
2. Tell Krejci to start acting like a professinal and point some points up or he is going to be traded before the deadline
3. Shop Corvo around the league and see if someone wants to do a contract for contract trade

Marchand Bergereon Seguin
Lucic Krejci Kane
Peverley Kelly Pouilet
Thorton Campbell Paille

Chara Boychuk
Seidenberg Ference
Mcquiad Corvo

Thomas
Rask

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One ES goal (Paille) in three games. Not sure line components concern, but...

17-46-49

63-37-38

20-19-23

67-11-22
My post looked sarcastic. My apologies. It wasn't supposed to.

I agree with you.

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I don't know why the second suggestion is laughable.

Yeah, Kampfer isn't very good. But at least he puts some effort in to being contained. Corvo has been awful in blinking neon lights... I'd rather watch the former right now.
2 is laughable because it's a negative move for his development. You're going to take a kid who has been targeted for his concussion
/timing issues and put him top 4. Not only do you hurt your team via experience, your drop his own confidence and trade value (if you plan on using him). Regardless of how Corvo is playing, it's a high chance negative net play.

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About half these response are good/very good.

The other half confirm why decent people regret what's happened here over the last 24-36 months.

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I wouldnt mind Rask getting 3 starts in a row. After his comments it would give a chance to prove himself, and Timmy doesn't look the same

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2 is laughable because it's a negative move for his development. You're going to take a kid who has been targeted for his concussion
/timing issues and put him top 4. Not only do you hurt your team via experience, your drop his own confidence and trade value (if you plan on using him). Regardless of how Corvo is playing, it's a high chance negative net play.
You don't have to put him in the top 4, you can play Ference more and put Boychuk on the PP.

Honestly though, Kampfer or Corvo, it doesn't really matter, neither guys are any good at the moment. I would like to see Chiarelli try to get a D-man who can actually play D.

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2 is laughable because it's a negative move for his development. You're going to take a kid who has been targeted for his concussion
/timing issues and put him top 4. Not only do you hurt your team via experience, your drop his own confidence and trade value (if you plan on using him). Regardless of how Corvo is playing, it's a high chance negative net play.
Maybe we're coming at this from different angles, but I don't see Kampfer's development as being a paramount issue in this discussion.

I understand the concerns about his concussion history as that really worries me too. But if he's going to play, he's a concussion risk. That's all there is to it.

I don't think the it hurts the team via experience, as I don't see Corvo as being a steady vet. His play is so erratic that I'd rather have the INexperienced and moldable younger mind attempting to make the simple plays, rather than doing whatever the hell he pleases. I think it's also pretty easy to forget the contributions that Kampfer made to the team's turnaround last season... He played big minutes and helped calm down the Bruins' transition game.

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You don't have to put him in the top 4, you can play Ference more and put Boychuk on the PP.

Honestly though, Kampfer or Corvo, it doesn't really matter, neither guys are any good at the moment. I would like to see Chiarelli try to get a D-man who can actually play D.
This of course, is ideal.

I wonder if people still feel confident in this team being the front-runner for the Cup again this season with the roster as is.

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Whether people want to believe it or not this team has not been the same since the whole White House fiasco and since Tim Thomas did a full on wrestling heel turn..As much as they won't admit it I think there is some problems in the locker room and this team or at least Thomas is distracted. I have no idea if it's true just my feeling that something is definitely off with the chemistry

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I love all three.

Segs to center is a bit radical but worth a shot

Corvo shoulda been gone a long time ago

Task deserves a little run here


Kudos KPD...good ideas.

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I would like to see them try to leave Corvo in Montreal.

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You don't have to put him in the top 4, you can play Ference more and put Boychuk on the PP.

Honestly though, Kampfer or Corvo, it doesn't really matter, neither guys are any good at the moment. I would like to see Chiarelli try to get a D-man who can actually play D.
I'm assuming that is a don't have to which is kind of correct. The issue is (and I should have expanded on this and would have if I wasn't on the train) the Bs succeed by fairly evened out/experienced pairs. If you drop to a McQ/Kampfer pairing you open a new can of worms (are you really comfortable with that?) if we were talking about te Trent whitfield of d men then sure- but we're not. We're talking about young kids where one is used to playing with an experienced quick d man who can erase mistakes and the other coming off some rattling hits. You're setting yourself up for failure.

It might not matter in on ice results 'as much', but in the bigger picture it's a quick trigger move that bites you in the a** before you know it. Out of the 3 suggestions, it's the most dangerous with the smallest potential gain.

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Whether people want to believe it or not this team has not been the same since the whole White House fiasco and since Tim Thomas did a full on wrestling heel turn..As much as they won't admit it I think there is some problems in the locker room and this team or at least Thomas is distracted. I have no idea if it's true just my feeling that something is definitely off with the chemistry
It's the Canucks game. That's the one. Where Marchand was suspended.

They haven't looked the same since THAT game. They were dominant before that contest and have been (what?) .500 (if that) since.

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Whether people want to believe it or not this team has not been the same since the whole White House fiasco and since Tim Thomas did a full on wrestling heel turn..As much as they won't admit it I think there is some problems in the locker room and this team or at least Thomas is distracted. I have no idea if it's true just my feeling that something is definitely off with the chemistry
I think it dates back farther than the WH "fiasco" all the suspensions and ****** calls going against them have got them off what was making them win.


I think it's FAR too easy to blame it on the WH thing, but look deeper. TT not going to the WH isn't making Corvo and Pouliot suck. It's not making Krejci slump, it didn't hurt Horton and it's not the reason Kelly has gone ice cold.

This team needs an infusion, a mix up. Nothing huge, but it needs a jolt.

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I like the idea or Sequin up the middle but not a fan of what Kampfer has shown so far but he can't be worse than what Corvo has done recently.

I'm all for giving Rask 3 in a row and then TT 3 in a row to let them both get in a groove - hopefully.

Unrelated to tonight, the powerplay really needs to become a weapon.

I don't really like Seidenberg out there on it at all.

Historically, i've never been a fan of forwards back there and I don't like Bergeron there at all, but I'd go with;


Chara - Peverley
Bergy - Sequin - Lucic

and then;

Corvo - Boychuk

Marchand - Krejci - Pouliot/Kelly

Not suggesting this resembles the 86 Oilers but it can't be much of a downgrade.

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Maybe we're coming at this from different angles, but I don't see Kampfer's development as being a paramount issue in this discussion.

I understand the concerns about his concussion history as that really worries me too. But if he's going to play, he's a concussion risk. That's all there is to it.

I don't think the it hurts the team via experience, as I don't see Corvo as being a steady vet. His play is so erratic that I'd rather have the INexperienced and moldable younger mind attempting to make the simple plays, rather than doing whatever the hell he pleases. I think it's also pretty easy to forget the contributions that Kampfer made to the team's turnaround last season... He played big minutes and helped calm down the Bruins' transition game.
MMB sorry for the slow/incomplete responses again. You'll see the rest of my thoughts in the other reply. I loved Kampfer last season. I loved his quick play, pick movement and the fearlessness he brought. Right now though, it's not the right play. He needs reps down in the ahl. He needs timing. He needs confidence. We can say we need to replace Corvo but looking at the next best guy in the system is not the guy that will bring a change. It's not there right now.

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