I'm very hesitant of trading our draft pick for another team's rookie. Stu would have to give the BIG okay on anything like that. Just look at what Milbury did with trading his youth around. Other teams are going to be very hesitant as well.
I'm not saying you will but I have a feeling that the people who are big time boosters for this kid will say I told you so if he comes back and lights it up.
Or else they will use the injury as an excuse if he busts. Seems like a safe bet dark horse to me.
I'm just saying that I'm excited. I hope he plays well and raises his stock. With Yakupov being nearly unanimous #1. Maybe we can have Griggy vs Gally for the #2 spot.
I'm just saying that I'm excited. I hope he plays well and raises his stock. With Yakupov being nearly unanimous #1. Maybe we can have Griggy vs Gally for the #2 spot.
And, I hope we do.
I like Galchenyuk's style/attitude far greater than I like Grigorenko's.
I like Galchenyuk's style/attitude far greater than I like Grigorenko's.
That's how i feel also and his upside is just as great as Grigorenko's, the injury to Galchenyuk is the only thing separating them on the draft board.
It would be nice to get a look at him in the OHL playoffs to see how he recovers from the injury, that will be telling for his draft status.
Well before we speculate about trading the pick away, we've got to find out who wins the lotto and gets 1st overall... if the Oilers luck out and get to pick 1st, I'm against trading it away as I want Yakupov in the lineup. Of course we can make up all sorts of fantasy theoretical trades like Stamkos or Weber for the 1st but those aren't happening so just keep in simple, use the 1st and choose the BPA.
If the Oilers pick somewhere 2nd to 5th then I'd still say keep it simple and choose BPA. I do have a hunch though that they may want to do a deal for a decent roster dman from another team which may include this years 1st or the 1st from 2013. No idea what type of deals will be available on draft day though so it's of course all just wait and see.
Is Galchenyuk playing again? I don't understand how so many of you have Galy ahead of Grigorenko. Galchenyuk has never produced like Grigs has been and he played on a line with Yakupov. He's a top 10 or 15 pick right now, unless he comes back and produces at a rate equal to or greater than Grigorenko.
All I really know for sure about Galchenyuk is he's buddies with Yakupov, has ridiculous hands and hasn't proved he's a top 5 pick yet because he's been injured.
Galchenyuk is pretty risky, I would not use a top 5 pick on him right now.
I`m still hoping we can manage to get the third overall pick so we get Murray. Obviously we would need to take Yakupov if we get first and Girgorenko second, just based on the `BPA` standard we use. But Ryan Murray has franchise potential as well, and I think he's getting underrated because he isn't the sexy pick that Yakupov, Grigorenko or Galchenyuk are. Fourth for me is Morgan Reilly, I think he has the type of skill we need. Fifth, I may take a risk on Galchenyuk, but we have enough injury histories on our team without drafting one. That said, I think Filip Forsberg is probably the next BPA. I'd hope we skip Forsberg and go for another d-man though, and I'd suggest going off the board with Griffin Reinhart instead of Matt Dumba.
My two biggest concerns are Galchenyuk's injury, and Dumba's inability to transition to the NHL game. I know its been discussed here, likely to death, but I don't see him transitioning easily. He won't be able to play his physical game the same way in the NHL. Plus, he worries me defensively. I've seen him play a half dozen times this year, and each time I have been impressed with his tools, but unimpressed with his decision making. Very unimpressed. I don't know if I want him as an Oiler at all.
Originally Posted by Aaron Vickers, Future Considerations
Since some unfavourable reviews, Mikhail Grigorenko has really stepped it up in the month of February and early March. In his last 10 games, Grigorenko has registered 10 goals and seven assists while being plus-20. His consistency seems to have improved from game to game and he is scoring more 5-on-5. The big test will be come playoff time where Grigorenko should play some stiffer competition if they happen to make it through the first round.
Is Galchenyuk playing again? I don't understand how so many of you have Galy ahead of Grigorenko. Galchenyuk has never produced like Grigs has been and he played on a line with Yakupov. He's a top 10 or 15 pick right now, unless he comes back and produces at a rate equal to or greater than Grigorenko.
All I really know for sure about Galchenyuk is he's buddies with Yakupov, has ridiculous hands and hasn't proved he's a top 5 pick yet because he's been injured.
Galchenyuk is pretty risky, I would not use a top 5 pick on him right now.
He had 31 goals and 83 points as an OHL rookie. I'd say that is pretty significant evidence that he can produce. Also as others have said there are a lot of people who watch the Sting who feel he could be better than Yakupov.
But for me the issue is his ability to complement RNH and to fit into the Oilers current mix. By all accounts he is a great team guy with a tremendous work ethic, and the desire to be very good at both ends of the ice. Combine that with a broad skill set and such players almost never bust. At worst you should get a very very good second line center that can be another young leader.
The injury is a concern, but there is lots of time before the draft to check that out.
The closer the draft gets the more I think that drafting Galchenyuk could be the right move for the Oilers.
He had 31 goals and 83 points as an OHL rookie. I'd say that is pretty significant evidence that he can produce. Also as others have said there are a lot of people who watch the Sting who feel he could be better than Yakupov.
But for me the issue is his ability to complement RNH and to fit into the Oilers current mix. By all accounts he is a great team guy with a tremendous work ethic, and the desire to be very good at both ends of the ice. Combine that with a broad skill set and such players almost never bust. At worst you should get a very very good second line center that can be another young leader.
The injury is a concern, but there is lots of time before the draft to check that out.
The closer the draft gets the more I think that drafting Galchenyuk could be the right move for the Oilers.
I agree.
Hopefully he can come back and have a sick playoff run to show that to our management.
Unfortunately Sarnia is not that good a team. They are unlikely to have a deep playoff run even if Galchenyuk and Yakupov play very well.
They're a team that will be very dangerous in the playoffs. Make no mistake, had Gally been there all year, and Yakuvop never went down, they would be in the mix at the top of the conference.
Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Spooner, Sarault, Thomspon up front, and Anderson in net, they certainly have the ability to beat anyone in the playoffs.
Hopefully he can come back and have a sick playoff run to show that to our management.
This is what I really want. If he could outplay Grigorenko for the rest of the year, I would be so happy to take him at #2. I fully believe we would be talking about 3 forwards at the top of the draft if he were healthy all year.
The nice thing is, with Gagner being comfortable with faceoffs, we could ease Gally in on the wing, if he isn't ready for a position at center next season. (or trade Gags for defense)
What do you all think of Samuelsson and Corbett; I would like to see EDM draft these two. They would be very nice prospect additions to our team. Samuelsson has nice size also.
I think when it comes to dmen you want to go with hockey IC, passing, skating and decision making. If you are taking a top dman you have to make sure that he has all of these; Dmen that are taken at the top of the draft that don't have these don't pan out. Skating for dmen is very important.
They're a team that will be very dangerous in the playoffs. Make no mistake, had Gally been there all year, and Yakuvop never went down, they would be in the mix at the top of the conference.
Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Spooner, Sarault, Thomspon up front, and Anderson in net, they certainly have the ability to beat anyone in the playoffs.
I actually hope so. I'd like to see them go deep as well. I would think that they would have a tough time once they git to say round three.
That said it is a lot to ask for Galchenyuk to jump right in at that level after such an injury.
