I still like the idea of a committee defence. If Klefbom, Marincin and Petry all develop into top 4 guys and we hang on to Gilbert and Smid, we only have one hole, that is a physical D-man.
I think that hole can be filled with a mid round 1st, Slater Koekkoek is one guy I'd love to see on the team, I think he's got tons of upside, not to mention he's a big kid with a great name
I still like the idea of a committee defence. If Klefbom, Marincin and Petry all develop into top 4 guys and we hang on to Gilbert and Smid, we only have one hole, that is a physical D-man.
I think that hole can be filled with a mid round 1st, Slater Koekkoek is one guy I'd love to see on the team, I think he's got tons of upside, not to mention he's a big kid with a great name
I'm not sure if it's been discussed before, but who looks to be in the NHL next year? Is Yakupov the only lock to make it? What about Grigorenko?
Pretty sure Murray will be in the NHL next season as well. He'll be 19 when the season starts and his game is already pretty advanced for a junior player.
Grant Sonier (scout) is writing for ESPN. He has a mock draft he just did. In the article he stated that every draft has tiers. He says the current one is no different. He said how he has the draft rated is that there are three A level prospects (Yakupov, Grigorenko, Forsberg). He says the next tier is 3-10. Then he stated their is a big dropoff. In his mock draft he has the Oilers selecting Grigorenkos at #2 and said the following:
"Mikhail Grigorenko, C, Quebec (QMJHL)Grigorenko has the best combination of size and skill in the draft and you can argue him over Yakupov. I think he is too good for the Oilers not to take, even though it appears defense is a priority after they recently selected Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Taylor Hall and Sam Gagner, all with early first-round picks. He is a better skating Sean Couturier with excellent hockey sense and puck skills. If the Oilers really want a defenseman with their first pick, they will likely try to trade down rather than take one at No. 2."
Grant Sonier (scout) is writing for ESPN. He has a mock draft he just did. In the article he stated that every draft has tiers. He says the current one is no different. He said how he has the draft rated is that there are three A level prospects (Yakupov, Grigorenko, Forsberg). He says the next tier is 3-10. Then he stated their is a big dropoff. In his mock draft he has the Oilers selecting Grigorenkos at #2 and said the following:
"Mikhail Grigorenko, C, Quebec (QMJHL)Grigorenko has the best combination of size and skill in the draft and you can argue him over Yakupov. I think he is too good for the Oilers not to take, even though it appears defense is a priority after they recently selected Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Taylor Hall and Sam Gagner, all with early first-round picks. He is a better skating Sean Couturier with excellent hockey sense and puck skills. If the Oilers really want a defenseman with their first pick, they will likely try to trade down rather than take one at No. 2."
RNH + Grigorenko sounds so awesome down the middle.
I'd probably split them up as so
MPS RNH Eberle
Hall Grigorenko Gagner
Really you could even move Gagner for a d-man if need be. I think RNH could eventually find the player inside MPS and bring him out of his shell.
RNH + Grigorenko sounds so awesome down the middle.
I'd probably split them up as so
MPS RNH Eberle
Hall Grigorenko Gagner
Really you could even move Gagner for a d-man if need be. I think RNH could eventually find the player inside MPS and bring him out of his shell.
I personally prefer:
Hall-RNH-Eberle (Cdn connection plus best talent on one line)
MPS-Grigorenko-?
I think Grigorenko's elite shot and passing can turn MPS around and playing on the second line takes the pressure away from both of them as well. I have question mark at right wing because I think Gagner goes there but I would prefer to move him for someone with size or dman. Getting someone with size would give us a 2nd line with talent and size as MPS is 6'2" and Grigs is 6'3" and having someone else that has size would make it hard for other teams to match up.
I sort of feel (based on nothing whatsoever) that Columbus would take Grigorenko 1st overall. How long has that organization been desperate for an elite #1 center? They've tried the elite winger route and it didn't work for them. Maybe they try the other route.
I sort of feel (based on nothing whatsoever) that Columbus would take Grigorenko 1st overall. How long has that organization been desperate for an elite #1 center? They've tried the elite winger route and it didn't work for them. Maybe they try the other route.
Then the Oilers happily take Yakupov.
MPS-RNH-Yakupov
Hall-Gagner-Eberle
is still pretty good, though Gagner is not an ideal 2nd line centre. But maybe eventually he;s supplanted by Pitlick in that position.
I would take Dumba 10/10 times over Murray Dumba is tough as nails while having a canon and will produce ok offensive numbers, Murray might have better offensive attributes but no sandpaper.
MPS-RNH-Yakupov
Hall-Gagner-Eberle
is still pretty good, though Gagner is not an ideal 2nd line centre. But maybe eventually he;s supplanted by Pitlick in that position.
Yeah, I really really really want to see MPS play with RNH this year. It looks like this'll happen because I think Renney likes the Hall-Gagner-Eberle line.
RNH + Grigorenko sounds so awesome down the middle.
I'd probably split them up as so
MPS RNH Eberle
Hall Grigorenko Gagner
Really you could even move Gagner for a d-man if need be. I think RNH could eventually find the player inside MPS and bring him out of his shell.
If we were at #2, I think it'd be best for both Gagner and the Oilers if he was traded. He's shown he needs to be at centre to do damage, and he needs to be with skilled players. There'd be no point for him to be on the third line. Maybe a Gagner for Bogosian deal? I don't know if he'd be available though.
MPS RNH Eberle
Hall Grigorenko Lander
I don't really care who's the 2RW tbh. I put Lander there strictly for defense. He'd could even take draws for Grigorenko if he struggles.
RNH + Grigorenko sounds so awesome down the middle.
I'd probably split them up as so
MPS RNH Eberle
Hall Grigorenko Gagner
Really you could even move Gagner for a d-man if need be. I think RNH could eventually find the player inside MPS and bring him out of his shell.
i think any lineups of the future have to have paajarvi on the 3rd line ... he just doesn't have the offensive ability to be a top-6 player... my linup would be something like this:
Hall - RNH - Eberle
XXX - Grigorenko - Gagner
Paajarvi - Lander - Jones
that XXX player could be whomever is hot, so maybe smyth sometimes, paajarvi others, maybe even a guy like Omark if we don't trade him
If we were at #2, I think it'd be best for both Gagner and the Oilers if he was traded. He's shown he needs to be at centre to do damage, and he needs to be with skilled players. There'd be no point for him to be on the third line. Maybe a Gagner for Bogosian deal? I don't know if he'd be available though.
MPS RNH Eberle
Hall Grigorenko Lander
I don't really care who's the 2RW tbh. I put Lander there strictly for defense. He'd could even take draws for Grigorenko if he struggles.
if we take grigorenko (which seems likely), i don't see a need to trade gagner right away... grigorenko might not even make the team next year... even if he does, they might break him into the NHL on the wing, and leave gagner at center
throwing grigorenko into the 2nd line C spot next year is a recipe for disaster IMO... let him get his feet wet on the wing or let him mature in junior another year.... the fact is, grigorneko is likely a step down from past years #2 overall (seguin in particular) and might not be ready for the NHL next, and almost certainly will not be ready to play #2 C
at some point, we have to stop trading 22 year olds because we have 18 year olds who are going to take their roster spot... at some point, we have to start trying to win hockey games by icing a more veteran laden team... i think the starting point of that will be next year
I sort of feel (based on nothing whatsoever) that Columbus would take Grigorenko 1st overall. How long has that organization been desperate for an elite #1 center? They've tried the elite winger route and it didn't work for them. Maybe they try the other route.
If we are a top 2 pick we take the fwd. After that it is one of the dmen. I hope we end up with Grigorenko as I think having a RNH, Grig, Lander is a very nice centremen to have.
Grigorenko is a manbeast. Heard the pipeline show this morning and their guest was saying Grigs ankle is still bad from his accident at the world juniors and basically he's playing at 50% right now/
Grigorenko is a manbeast. Heard the pipeline show this morning and their guest was saying Grigs ankle is still bad from his accident at the world juniors and basically he's playing at 50% right now/
Yes. He was a ghost last night against the Sea Dogs. He isn't skating as hard as he was earlier in the season.
MPS-RNH-Yakupov
Hall-Gagner-Eberle
is still pretty good, though Gagner is not an ideal 2nd line centre. But maybe eventually he;s supplanted by Pitlick in that position.
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Originally Posted by notloilersfan
Tambi would skip to the stage to select Yakupov
I wonder.... now I hope they'd go BPA, but this team needs a top end D much more than another top end W... I could see the Oilers going for the d-man. Maybe trading down to do so or maybe just selecting the guy they want at 2.
What do I know though... just baseless speculation on my part.
Quick question, I know Europeans are able to play in the AHL sooner than NA prospects. Can Grigorenko hit the AHL early, or does he have to wait since he's playing in the CHL now?
Quick question, I know Europeans are able to play in the AHL sooner than NA prospects. Can Grigorenko hit the AHL early, or does he have to wait since he's playing in the CHL now?
He'll have to wait since he'll be drafted out of the CHL.
