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02-14-2012, 10:03 PM
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To Dallas: Shawn Lalonde or Dylan Olsen, Michael Frolik, Chicago's 1st round pick

To Chicago: Mike Ribeiro or Stephane Robidas, Adam Burish

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The second I posted this I regretted it.



This doesn't happen because the Stars (specifically Gaglardi) said they won't make trades that make them worse today. They aren't interested in trades for future pieces.

I'm starting to hope they reconsider. I get that it's a loss to Detroit, but now Anaheim is 4 points back. Plus, you get to look forward to 4 games against Vancouver and 3 against SJ. They're running out of time, and I'm running out of believe they can pull anything off.

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I dont think it makes our team worse if we trade one of Robidas, Grossman or Souray.

As we have Fistric ready (and should permanantly be there) we can make a trade now for one of those veteran D and not be worse.

What would Chicago give for Robidas or Grossman plus burish.

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Chicagos 1st and frolik for Robidas and Burish

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Trading Ribeiro is the wrong move, though. Trade him, and it's essentially sparking a total teardown of the entire "veteran" roster.

I think he stays, and instead we see the likes of Morrow/Robidas/Souray/Ott on their way out. Ribeiro is a bigger and more vital part of this team right now, moreso than any of those players, IMO.

Of all active Stars, these are the ones I'd rather we keep:

Ribeiro, Benn, Eriksson, Vincour, Goligoski, Larsen, Daley, Fistric, Lehtonen, Bachman. On the fence about Ryder, but I'd be fine with keeping him for the duration of his contract. When he shows up, he's dangerous in the offensive zone and we need more of that.

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The second I posted this I regretted it.



This doesn't happen because the Stars (specifically Gaglardi) said they won't make trades that make them worse today. They aren't interested in trades for future pieces.

I'm starting to hope they reconsider. I get that it's a loss to Detroit, but now Anaheim is 4 points back. Plus, you get to look forward to 4 games against Vancouver and 3 against SJ. They're running out of time, and I'm running out of believe they can pull anything off.
I think he was just giving the media lip service with that. He said if we make any trades were not going to be sacrificing the future but our trading vs standing pat was going to depend on performance b/w now and the deadline

And yeah ribeiro is the one of the vets i would want to keep

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Regret it? Why?

Chicago SHOULD be after Ribeiro and Robidas given that their top D is logging heavy minutes and Coach Q doesn't seem to trust Olsen/Leddy and their top center in Toews is playing injured. Washington should also be after Ribeiro given that THEIR top center in Backstrom is out with a concussion. Plus various other teams who need stronger center depth that are in the running for the playoffs (hello Nashville and Phoenix if they could afford him).

I believe Ribeiro can and should be moved if someone is willing to give up the right package. The right package includes a young guy who can step into the lineup now and provide at least some of the scoring we may lose with Ribeiro plus some future assets. Frolik and a guy like Pirri or Kruger who is stuck down the depth chart might be enough to both increase our top 6 depth and future prospects. Damn the pick, honestly. Anything more is gravy.

Burish? Replaceable bottom 6 character guy. It would be nice to keep him around but he needs to earn his keep right now, and he hasn't been doing much of that.

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Make it Robidas and I'd do it, no way I'd give up Ribs.

They want him, I'd ask for:

McNeill
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Ribs+Robidas for Frolik+Olsen+Pirri+1st

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Ribs+Robidas for Frolik+Olsen+Pirri+1st
I'd probably say done.

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I'd probably say done.
i think we could do better

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i think we could do better
McNeill instead of Pirri?

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i think we could do better
Well, assuming no one else offers better, I'd say done. What could Washington offer?

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McNeill instead of Pirri?
can you throw in a 5th with that we have a fetish for them

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Well, assuming no one else offers better, I'd say done. What could Washington offer?
i think we could get more selling them separately would really be my only beef

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can you throw in a 5th with that we have a fetish for them
So all in all Ribs and Robidas for Frolik+Olsen+McNeill+1st&5th ?

What about Ribs and Robidas to Washington for Johansson+Orlov+Galiev+1st&5th ?

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So all in all Ribs and Robidas for Frolik+Olsen+McNeill+1st&5th ?

What about Ribs and Robidas to Washington for Johansson+Orlov+Galiev+1st&5th ?
Col first and im all over that like white on rice

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What about Ribs and Robidas to Washington for Johansson+Orlov+Galiev+1st&5th ?
Done in a second. Washington wouldn't make this move unless they feel the Stars players really help them "win now" and give them a shot in the arm.

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So all in all Ribs and Robidas for Frolik+Olsen+McNeill+1st&5th ?

What about Ribs and Robidas to Washington for Johansson+Orlov+Galiev+1st&5th ?
Dear lord that's gross overpayment by the Caps. Mojo is a good 2/3 C already, Orlov looks poised to be a guarantee top 4 Dman, and Galiev is a solid Russian prospect... Too much honestly.

That said I'd totally take it.

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Dear lord that's gross overpayment by the Caps. Mojo is a good 2/3 C already, Orlov looks poised to be a guarantee top 4 Dman, and Galiev is a solid Russian prospect... Too much honestly.

That said I'd totally take it.
Take of the 1st and Galiev??? Ribs and Robidas for Johansson, Orlov and say a 3rd?

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Take of the 1st and Galiev??? Ribs and Robidas for Johansson, Orlov and say a 3rd?
Nah, I'd take off one or the other, but not both.

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Dallas should offer the following packages

Ott ($2.95m until 2014) + Grossman ($1.625m - UFA)

or

Burish ($1.15m - UFA) + Robidas ($3.3m until 2014)


or

Burish + Robidas

Obviously the returns would be different for each package. In the 3rd Dallas probably takes back Brunette (salary) + picks/prospects, whereas in the others they would likely need to take Frolik + picks/prospects to even it out over a longer term.






No interest in moving Ribeiro for prospects.

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Olsen + 1st? not interested

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for robidas and ribeiro?

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What about Kari Lehtonen could he be available?

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What about Kari Lehtonen could he be available?
call back in a couple years

campbells not busting down the doors or anything

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