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02-15-2012, 12:00 PM
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Emery is the last person to blame for last night.

Salak is garbage in the AHL but he's going to out perform Craw and Emery in the NHL?

The answer lies with another team, not in Rockford.

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02-15-2012, 12:22 PM
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I want someone to explain to me how Emery has sucked all year? Yeah, hes had a few losses and a few bad goals he should have stopped..but most of the games that were lost when he played..the D did NOTHING for him.

And I laugh at the older posts mentioning how bad Elliot was last year and how freakin awesome hes doing in STL lol.

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02-15-2012, 12:31 PM
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sorry for the double post.

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He was hurt and coming back from surgery at the start of the season. I'm only interested in what he has done since coming back from his long absense due to injury. He's done well in one and half games. If he is 100%, he needs to be up and get his chance. We know what we have in Crawford/Emery this year and it sucks really, really bad. Let's see what we have in Salak, can't be worse, we are losing every single game right now.
He was given a shot to win the job at the beginning of the season and didn't Don't plan on seeing him in Chicago anytime soon.

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We're going to argue over who's better.... Emery or CC?
Two words: Tallest Midget

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sorry for the double post.



He was given a shot to win the job at the beginning of the season and didn't Don't plan on seeing him in Chicago anytime soon.
He played well (what was it, 92 or 93% save percentage in the preseason?). He wasn't awarded the job but at the same time, probably wasn't fully back from his surgery as it wasn't expected he would be when he had it. I think we should just wash out everything prior to him coming back. There was some good, some bad and some injuries.

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Emery is the last person to blame for last night.

Salak is garbage in the AHL but he's going to out perform Craw and Emery in the NHL?

The answer lies with another team, not in Rockford.
Emery let in 1 goal he could have had, let in another goal he could have had and let in a goal he has to stop without any doubt.

His other 17 saves weren't that bad.


Emery hasn't made a save another starter in the NHL wouldn't have made - like Rinne does every game. Emery is to blame for sure

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02-15-2012, 02:44 PM
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How do you know? The guy has a good chance of coming up and playing very well, which would certainly help the team if it happened, wouldn't you agree. Wouldn't you agree that a better goalie would help this team? I just heard Pierre McGuire on the score this morning and that's what he was saying, that a better goalie would help a lot.

And the backup playing as good as the starter? You can admit they both suck this year, right?
How do you know?

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Emery let in 1 goal he could have had, let in another goal he could have had and let in a goal he has to stop without any doubt.

His other 17 saves weren't that bad.

Emery hasn't made a save another starter in the NHL wouldn't have made - like Rinne does every game. Emery is to blame for sure
16 saves to be exact but great post.

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How do you know?
I file that one under the "anything is possible" heading. And with Crawford/Emery, you try anything. Salak has had a very good career and earned this.

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I file that one under the "anything is possible" heading. And with Crawford/Emery, you try anything. Salak has had a very good career and earned this.
Crawford and Emery have both had better careers, and have earned the chance to play behind a team that isn't running around with their heads cut off in their own zone.

Last night was a good showing, if they play like that against NY.. I think we'll win with Crow in net.

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remember Crows last starts? If he plays like these games, there is nothing or team can do to win this game

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He played well (what was it, 92 or 93% save percentage in the preseason?). He wasn't awarded the job but at the same time, probably wasn't fully back from his surgery as it wasn't expected he would be when he had it. I think we should just wash out everything prior to him coming back. There was some good, some bad and some injuries.
So with this logic, lets just wash out the last 9 games and we're good.

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So with this logic, lets just wash out the last 9 games and we're good.
No, the goaltending was horse crap before the 9 games and had Salak been healthy then, it would have been just as good of an idea to call him up.

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02-15-2012, 03:14 PM
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Except for the fact that Salak had been pretty bad in the AHL.. sure.

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Except for the fact that Salak had been pretty bad in the AHL.. sure.
Are you talking about his all-star season or his early season play when he was rehabing from surgery?

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So with this logic, lets just wash out the last 9 games and we're good.
Goaltending wasn't good before, but was worse on the road trip

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02-15-2012, 03:18 PM
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Are you talking about his all-star season or his early season play when he was rehabing from surgery?
Hmm, I'm not sure. His play 2 seasons ago in the AHL seems pretty relevent, doesn't it?

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02-15-2012, 03:22 PM
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Hmm, I'm not sure. His play 2 seasons ago in the AHL seems pretty relevent, doesn't it?
Salak just went from .893 to .904 since he came back. Another good game or two and he'll have good season numbers and most importantly, will be on a hot streak. So enjoy crapping on him while you can.

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02-15-2012, 03:23 PM
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Salak just went from .893 to .904 since he came back. Another good game or two and he'll have good season numbers and most importantly, will be on a hot streak. So enjoy crapping on him while you can.
It's not hard to impact your numbers when you've hardly played. Another bad game or two and his numbers will be right back where they started. So enjoy praising him while you can.

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Are you talking about his all-star season or his early season play when he was rehabing from surgery?
hes talking as a propery of the blackhawks he has not been good

he is rehabing from injury now and shouldnt be playing if your giving him excuses for earlier in the year.

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02-15-2012, 03:28 PM
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hes talking as a propery of the blackhawks he has not been good

he is rehabing from injury now and shouldnt be playing if your giving him excuses for earlier in the year.
The moment the words come out of Salak's mouth "I am 100% healthy and have my timing back", he should be called up. If you watched him on TV the other night, you'd say he looked pretty good.

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The moment the words come out of Salak's mouth "I am 100% healthy and have my timing back", he should be called up. If you watched him on TV the other night, you'd say he looked pretty good.
I dont disagree he should be given a shot...waiving a goaltender for nothing (because you dont like him) to give a shot to a goalie that has been hurt and could likely get hurt again (alec richards would be our new backup) is not helping the team

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I dont disagree he should be given a shot...waiving a goaltender for nothing (because you dont like him) to give a shot to a goalie that has been hurt and could likely get hurt again (alec richards would be our new backup) is not helping the team
Well, you could let Emery sit in the press box initially (or take turns doing that with CC, could help both), but if Salak does well, you'd have to cut Ray loose because we need roster spots.

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He's been on fire since coming back. You want to wait a few more starts, fine. But I caught most of the action as they were playing the Wolves and he looked good. Let's see if he keeps it up. Bottom line is, Crawford and Emery have been so awful this year, that any viable option should be given a chance.
On fire in 1 and a half games? Give it up, dude. That is not nearly a large enough sample to say whether he is ready to be a #1 starter in the NHL.

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On fire in 1 and a half games? Give it up, dude. That is not nearly a large enough sample to say whether he is ready to be a #1 starter in the NHL.
It's enough to give him a few games, that's all I want. Any goalie that ever played well in this league had to be given that first opportunity, think about that.

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