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Buy Low for Carter or Break Bank for Nash?

View Poll Results: Buy Low for Carter or Break Bank for Nash?
Buy Low for Carter 90 53.25%
Break Bank for Nash 43 25.44%
Neither 36 21.30%
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02-15-2012, 11:57 AM
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I see these kind of things all the time, someone links a video of datsyuk getting hit and him hitting them back. A post is then made with so called "their own" logic and facts on a post that was already made. Why do people do this?

Etc.. Post 1- kessel is a good player because of X.

A few posts later- well kessel is a good player because X.. "with their own added extra facts"

Boggles my mind :s
Are you bashing what I said if I'm not mistaken. Just watch how Datsyuk plays and in the past. He can deliver hits, can take hits and is not easy to take down at all. I then said Kessel doesn't play that way and he's gotta find a way to get out of their zone better. The same goes for Lupul also.

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02-15-2012, 11:58 AM
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If it's a choice between Carter/Nash I want Carter. The Leafs have wingers, they could use an elite centre more than an elite winger. Hopefully Bozak keeps his current pace up so that it isn't necessary to look elsewhere for a centre, because what we really need is some defensive d-men.

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Your last sentence contradicts the rest of your post.
Not really. I think Nash is over rated and over paid.
But Columbus certainly doesn't.

Bob MacKenzie said yesterday on the radio that Nash would bring the larger return, but I cant figure out why.

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02-15-2012, 12:09 PM
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Both players would be good, Nash seems risky given that 4-5 assets would go to Columbus I like the buy-low Carter option on this one

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02-15-2012, 12:10 PM
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Not really. I think Nash is over rated and over paid.
I must be the only one.
Nope...your not. I've said in EVERY Nash thread, 79 points is his carreer high (mid 60's otherwise). He has a 7.8 mil cap hit til 2018. Not worth the asking prices.

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02-15-2012, 12:10 PM
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depends what "buying low" and "break the bank" means...

impossible to give an answer given the fact we have no clue what either will cost...but i voted for Nash.

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02-15-2012, 12:11 PM
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Not really. I think Nash is over rated and over paid.
I must be the only one.
Must be.

Logically the one with more value is seen as more valuable.

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02-15-2012, 12:13 PM
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Schenn
MacArthur or Bozak
Colborne or Aulie

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NASH

Get'r DONE

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02-15-2012, 12:14 PM
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I have to say go for Nash. Yes, the top line center is a need, but we need that Nash kind of player. You need that kind of play along the boards. Right now we have lines that can rush fine, but keeping control of the puck along the boards is damn hard for them.

Sure makes things complicated along the wings, but I say you go for it and see what happens. Plenty of options after all. Could make our top 6 overall much more dangerous.

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02-15-2012, 12:27 PM
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Rather have Nash as a player, but he'd cost way too much and his cap hit would give this team so little flexibility moving forward. I'd say trade for Carter. No one thought Lupul would work with Kessel last season, especially playing his off wing. Even if they're right this time Carter's a good player and we could make room for him.

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02-15-2012, 12:33 PM
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So many of you are including Kadri in your trade packages as if he is a top prospect. I doubt the rest of the NHL sees him that way anymore.

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02-15-2012, 12:35 PM
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I'm not sell on bringing in Carter.

For Nash I'm ready to trade to get him Schenn, Colborne and Kulemin. That's it, if Howson is not happy with that, then trade him to another team. Right now he is a 30 goals scorer and he will make around 70 points. I don't want to overpay for his good season 4 years ago.

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So many of you are including Kadri in your trade packages as if he is a top prospect. I doubt the rest of the NHL sees him that way anymore.
What's really the point of this post?

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02-15-2012, 12:40 PM
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What's really the point of this post?
If you want to swing that way, what is really the point of this whole forum?

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So many of you are including Kadri in your trade packages as if he is a top prospect. I doubt the rest of the NHL sees him that way anymore.
Yeah I mean he's 21, he's clearly lost that status.


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02-15-2012, 12:43 PM
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Neither.
I don't like the potential asking price and their contracts.
I'm still pretty sure that Columbus won't trade Carter for anything less than what they gave up for him in the Flyers trade. And thats nor what i would call "buy low".

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On the trade rumors board apparently TSN says Nash's list of teams is 5 : NYR, LA, Toronto, Philadelphia and Vancouver. Getting Nash in the blue and white would give this team a much needed kick in the ass and give them a boost.

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02-15-2012, 12:45 PM
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Yeah I mean he's 21, he's clearly lost that status.

Kyle Turris lost quite a bit of status by 21, and he was a higher pick than Kadri was.

If any of you are confused by this, ask the subforum of another team what they think about Kadri's value at this point.

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02-15-2012, 12:55 PM
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On the trade rumors board apparently TSN says Nash's list of teams is 5 : NYR, LA, Toronto, Philadelphia and Vancouver. Getting Nash in the blue and white would give this team a much needed kick in the ass and give them a boost.
Why would he want to go to Toronto or LA if he wants to win?

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I much prefer the idea of buying low on Carter.

I think it's debatable who the better player is between him and Nash. Carter has the edge in career highs (46 goals in comparison to Nash's 40, and 84 points in comparison to Nash's 79), while Nash has him beat in PPG (.81 for Nash, .73 for Carter). Nash is bigger and stronger, but Carter is a year younger and better defensively (from what I've seen).

Both great players, but I like the fact that Carter is a center (a position of greater need), and is a lot easier on the cap. He also has proven chemistry with Lupul, and could give us a dynamite option on the top line, instead of having to keep resorting to Bozak (who I like, but he's just not good enough to be a top line center on a competing team). Also, and probably most importantly, it would cost less to pick up Carter. I don't want to sell the farm to get Nash.
Everything I wanted to say got summed up quite well over in this post.

Not to mention we lack top line center talent, aside from a possible prospect in kadri.

I dont want to break the barn we created just to get one valuable piece.

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Schenn
MacArthur or Bozak
Colborne or Aulie

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NASH

Get'r DONE
That wouldn't even come close to "Get'r done". IMO

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Why would he want to go to Toronto or LA if he wants to win?
Why would he re-sign in Columbus if he wants to win?

He would make a big difference if he came to Toronto, it's about building a winning culture and having players WANT to be here

like when Liles took a discount to re-sign here

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That wouldn't even come close to "Get'r done". IMO
I agree, but I still wouldn't do it, just based on Nash's contract and by how overrated he is.

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Why would he re-sign in Columbus if he wants to win?

He would make a big difference if he came to Toronto, it's about building a winning culture and having players WANT to be here

like when Liles took a discount to re-sign here
Then we need to get rid of half our team.

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02-15-2012, 01:01 PM
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ftr, i do think the leafs should do what they can to get nash. his contract of 7.8 has him overpaid by maybe 0.8, and it will run until he is 33 years old. yeah, he has been a 60-70 point player in columbus, but here i'd expect about 80 with the stronger supporting cast.

the only players i would not give up would be lupul, kessel and perhaps gardiner. i think lupul might be asked for though.

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