Rick Nash Part IV: All Nash talk/proposals/etc. here

kinal25 · 02-16-2012, 12:32 PM

BLUE JACKETS:
Schenn
Kadri
Connolly
2nd

Leafs:
Nash

Dave33 · 02-16-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gagnefan924

JJ doesnt want to go to Columbus. Voynov would be wanted more bc hes more of a prospect. JJ supposedly signed his contract bc he would have been traded to CBJ if he didnt.

Where did you read that about JJ?

If the Kings are in this thing, I sincerely hope JJ isn't included because he has shown flashes of brilliance and I think with his work ethic he will meet his potential.

Frankly I don't see DL pulling the trigger on Nash based on the price, perhaps on Carter for less.

36kap36 · 02-16-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Velvet Hammer

considering that they combined have 13mil in salary and on 60points combined...

good roster D - schenn/gunnarson/komi(means we add a little extra)
Good roster F - macarthur/bozak/
blue chip/solid nhl ready Prospect - kadri/colborne/holzer/blacker
1st or 2nd - depending on other assets offered.

i think a fair offer to be;

nash
carter

for

komi (dump)
schenn (leads D in hits)
bozak (1.5mil 2years, 35 pts, 45gp)
Holzer (NHL ready D prospect, highly touted) defensive d-man
Kardi or colborne (jacket choice)
1st 2014

and maybe another deal like;

mason

for

Reimer
4th

Not sure if serious......

WornWithPride · 02-16-2012, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Velvet Hammer

considering that they combined have 13mil in salary and on 60points combined...

good roster D - schenn/gunnarson/komi(means we add a little extra)
Good roster F - macarthur/bozak/
blue chip/solid nhl ready Prospect - kadri/colborne/holzer/blacker
1st or 2nd - depending on other assets offered.

i think a fair offer to be;

nash
carter

for

komi (dump)
schenn (leads D in hits)
bozak (1.5mil 2years, 35 pts, 45gp)
Holzer (NHL ready D prospect, highly touted) defensive d-man
Kardi or colborne (jacket choice)
1st 2014

and maybe another deal like;

mason

for

Reimer
4th

Sporting them rose colored glasses

Fro · 02-16-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Velvet Hammer

yet this offer saves columbus cap save AND provides there lineup with more depth and scoring...

and 2players from ur top line combined dont have more points than kessel or lupul alone.

its pretty brutal man...if TOR is getting both, I'd hope the deal starts with Schenn AND Gardier and goes from there....

Gagnefan924 · 02-16-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fro

you're right...i mean brass w/o Nash on his line has just been amazing to watch

link? he's never said (to my knowledge) that he doesn't want to come here, nor have I seen an "insider" say that

Lol you arent serious right now....Brass has been one of our best every night. Stoll is terrible on a playoff team. The guy is a cap dump yet hes better than a number 2 center with upside...unbelievable. As for the second part, go look at the player movement thread on our board.

The Velvet Hammer · 02-16-2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianPride

Sporting them rose colored glasses

and what would you say is a good offer for 2 players that combined have 60 pts and 13 MIL IN CAP HIT.

Jack de la Hoya · 02-16-2012, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Velvet Hammer

i think a fair offer to be;

nash
carter

for

komi (dump)
schenn (leads D in hits)
bozak (1.5mil 2years, 35 pts, 45gp)
Holzer (NHL ready D prospect, highly touted) defensive d-man
Kardi or colborne (jacket choice)
1st 2014

and maybe another deal like;

For both Carter and Nash? I don't think you get a discount rate...

Probably more like:

Gardiner
Schenn
Kadri
Kulemin
and a salary dump

Yes, that's your future top-pairing, and two-thirds of a decent second line, for two-thirds of a top-line.

(Gardiner + Kadri for Nash; Schenn + Kulemin for Carter).

No, I don't think Toronto would do it. But that's much closer to the value than the above package.

DPyro · 02-16-2012, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Velvet Hammer

and what would you say is a good offer for 2 players that combined have 60 pts and 13 MIL IN CAP HIT.

Doesn't matter. It's ridiculous to even suggest both players get moved to the same team.

The Velvet Hammer · 02-16-2012, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fro

its pretty brutal man...if TOR is getting both, I'd hope the deal starts with Schenn AND Gardier and goes from there....

gardier is probably untouchable because he is the type of puck mover and skills we covet, and since he is the backbone to the lupul deal i cant see him being on the move

AND would a playoff team really blow up there lines and trade 2 of there top 4 defense.

i would trade 95% of the team before gardier

The Velvet Hammer · 02-16-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPyro

Doesn't matter. It's ridiculous to even suggest both players get moved to the same team.

why is it so ridiculous... they package 2 struggling players to increase what they can get. and in turn save a tonne of money and improve there depth and scoring touch.

WornWithPride · 02-16-2012, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Velvet Hammer

and what would you say is a good offer for 2 players that combined have 60 pts and 13 MIL IN CAP HIT.

Phil kessel
Dion Phaneuf
Reimer
Gardiner
Kadri
1st 2014

Salaries match up perfectly. In this instance you might be looking at a trade that might intersest columbus.

bizzz · 02-16-2012, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Velvet Hammer

and what would you say is a good offer for 2 players that combined have 60 pts and 13 MIL IN CAP HIT.

Augh, those points... I would say nothing if you're trading "for 2 players that combined have 60 pts and 13 MIL IN CAP HIT". The Jackets are trading away 2 players who are 5th and 6th in goal scored over the last 5 seasons in the NHL. We're in the 2 different Universes in therm of evaluation.

**hockeyball** · 02-16-2012, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianPride

Phil kessel
Dion Phaneuf
Reimer
Gardiner
Kadri
1st 2014

Salaries match up perfectly. In this instance you might be looking at a trade that might intersest columbus.

hahaha... oh dear lord.

The disappointment around here is going to be epic.

justiceofyoda · 02-16-2012, 12:43 PM

Haven't read all of the posting from all of Nash threads but what about? Even close?

To Columbus:

JVR
Schenn
Bobrovsky
1st Round 2012

To Philadelphia:

Nash
Tytuin

WornWithPride · 02-16-2012, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyball

hahaha... oh dear lord.

The disappointment around here is going to be epic.

Haha I tried

The Velvet Hammer · 02-16-2012, 12:46 PM

you are all stuck in nhl 12 thinking, thinking that they will get a kings ransom.. struggling players are struggling players....

what would you guys offer for lupul or michalic; right now? and 2-3 years ago?

just because someone "was" an all-star or really good player doesnt mean they will 100% get better, look to gomez, komiserak....

would you guys give me a 1st and a prospect for komi...

what do you mean hes crap... HE'S AN ALLSTAR@.@

81Leafs50 · 02-16-2012, 12:46 PM

Nash has submitted a list to the Blue Jackets and the Leafs are on there, so here goes.....

To Leafs:
Nash
Mason

To Columbus:
MacArthur
Schenn
Kadri
Gustavsson/Rynnas/Scrivens
1st 2012
2nd 2013

Columbus will never get a better offer than this. In my opinion anyway.

Jack de la Hoya · 02-16-2012, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justiceofyoda

Haven't read all of the posting from all of Nash threads but what about? Even close?

To Columbus:

JVR
Schenn
Bobrovsky
1st Round 2012

To Philadelphia:

Nash
Tytuin

Not a CBJ fan, but the response will be: Tytuin is not available.

Take out Schenn and Tytuin and its probably close. I think a 2nd is sufficient for the Flyers, or maybe a 2nd from Columbus with the 1st.

JVR, BOB, 1st for Nash, 2nd or JVR, BOB, 2nd, for Nash.

Pens1566 · 02-16-2012, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianPride

Phil kessel
Dion Phaneuf
Reimer
Gardiner
Kadri
1st 2014

Salaries match up perfectly. In this instance you might be looking at a trade that might intersest columbus.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyball

hahaha... oh dear lord.

The disappointment around here is going to be epic.

Yep.

khennig16* · 02-16-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justiceofyoda

Haven't read all of the posting from all of Nash threads but what about? Even close?

To Columbus:

JVR
Schenn
Bobrovsky
1st Round 2012

To Philadelphia:

Nash
Tytuin

CBJ isn't trading Tyutin.

OkimLom · 02-16-2012, 12:49 PM

I think if he gets moved, it will be during the offseason. Would CBJ fans Take:

Vanek+Sekera+2nd
For
Nash+Brassard

The Velvet Hammer · 02-16-2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianPride

Phil kessel
Dion Phaneuf
Reimer
Gardiner
Kadri
1st 2014

Salaries match up perfectly. In this instance you might be looking at a trade that might intersest columbus.

thats insane.... kessel alone has more points than both those players...
dion is getting points to...

maybe

dion
riemer
connolly(cap reason)
macarthur
replace gardier with schenn
1st

and that would be for

mason
nash
carter

ephmrl · 02-16-2012, 12:49 PM

It's gonna be funny when he actually gets traded and the return for him is significantly lower than is being proposed and speculated around here.

backofthenet · 02-16-2012, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gagnefan924

JJ doesnt want to go to Columbus. Voynov would be wanted more bc hes more of a prospect. JJ supposedly signed his contract bc he would have been traded to CBJ if he didnt.

What are you talking about? JJ does not have a no movement clause. He can be traded at any time to any team.