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02-16-2012, 09:04 PM
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hahahah leafs are gonna sign Grabovski for 5 mil. That is the same price Vancouver has for Kesler!!
that's because kesler's agent is a moron.

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Pirri + 2nd ,,, Pirri and D'Amigo know each other well from NCAA

Grabovski would be great fit on Hawks #2 line with Hossa

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Yeah I know math, I'm just telling you the Caps will get in via the division winner or not at all. That's how it will go down.
You have to much faith in my leafs then friend.

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I agree that his probably using the media to pressure Grabo to sign to a cheaper contract.

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Grabovski needs to be traded, and return via FA in the summer. Have your cake and eat it too leafs fans.

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You have to much faith in my leafs then friend.
He never said the leafs would stay in a playoff spot

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No it's not.

But Grabovski definitely makes the second line tick.
well Kessel's been healthy and at the top of his game more often this season. A bit more chemistry between him and Bozak as well. But when I get a chance to watch Leafs games I find teams have a harder time containing Grabovski's line then Bozak's. (perhaps it's because teams have their top defence pairing against Kessel). But Kulemin, Grabovski and MacArthur can each score and set up plays (they've slowed down a bit this season I'll give you that) which makes it that much harder. Watching them play - it's like magic (I was amazed last season. hoping they can show a bit more of that now and soon.)

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Yeah I know math, I'm just telling you the Caps will get in via the division winner or not at all. That's how it will go down.
Or they could finish just under the panthers, and be ahead of the leafs??? Thus not being the division winner
I don't see where you're going with this.

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Good God this is scary, Alzner just tweeted that he has no roommate on the trip to Florida. I believe the obvious roommate he would have is Carlson...

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Pirri + 2nd ,,, Pirri and D'Amigo know each other well from NCAA

Grabovski would be great fit on Hawks #2 line with Hossa
If he is moved that would be a perfect situation for Grabovski to be honest. He wouldn't have to adapt all that much in my opinion because Kulemin is basically Hossa light despite his obvious struggles this season. They play a similar over all game and it suits Grabovski's game pretty well.

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Pirri would also be good for Leafs as he is almost ready for fulltime NHL duty

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He's easily worth a 1st

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He never said the leafs would stay in a playoff spot
... Islanders taking 8th ?
Kind of have to assume he believes 8th will have more points then 2nd in the SE, Or the post makes no sense.

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Pirri + 2nd ,,, Pirri and D'Amigo know each other well from NCAA

Grabovski would be great fit on Hawks #2 line with Hossa
That offer makes a lot of sense.

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Pirri + 2nd ,,, Pirri and D'Amigo know each other well from NCAA

Grabovski would be great fit on Hawks #2 line with Hossa
What's the deal with Pirri? Stats look pretty good for 20 year old, but seems like he gets thrown around in every proposal from the Hawks. Not sure because he's expendable and you need to trade value to get value, or if he'll have a tough time adjusting to the NHL.

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You can't compare contracts given out before to the present.. Ville Leino makes 4.5M for doing nothing.

Kesler took a deal which at that time looked reasonable and Leafs aren't at the level where they can ask players to take a pay cut.

Maybe when the deadweight contracts are done with in 1-2 years time.
Grabovski is also a UFA, while Kesler was a RFA. Joe Pavelski is a similar player to Kesler that signed a 4 year/16M deal as an RFA last summer. In both Pavelski's and Kesler's cases, they were in a position where they were inclined to sign for a hometown discount. They were both key players on established Stanley Cup contenders, but more importantly, they were on teams that were anchored by proven veteran stars. Maybe most importantly, neither Pavelski nor Kesler was going to hit the open market, so they had absolutely nothing to lose by re-signing at a discount. Grabovski fits none of those three criteria. Still, even as a potential UFA, 5M seems a bit excessive for Grabovski. He's 28 years old and let's be honest, he's not a #1 center.

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Dreger been on a roll all year making up bs rumors. Lol Grabovski would return a hell of alot more than that.

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What's the deal with Pirri? Stats look pretty good for 20 year old, but seems like he gets thrown around in every proposal from the Hawks. Not sure because he's expendable and you need to trade value to get value, or if he'll have a tough time adjusting to the NHL.
Most Hawk fans are obsessed with McNeill as prospect and Kruger is loved by Bowman's/Q because his D has been NHL ready from start jumping over the pond

Pirri wasn't a Bowman pick so alot of it stems from fact most GM's prefer to trade the previous regimes prospects instead of there own

Bowman drafted Mcneill and Kruger's D and versatility to play both wings + C well is valued by coaches/Bowman

So Pirri just jumps out as the guy who is expendable while bringing back value

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It would make sense if we're looking into getting Carter. Otherwise, I just don't see Burke dealing for just futures for one of our best forwards.

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Holland and a 2nd would not surprise me if we're the ones that made the offer.
For a rental? Seriously doubt it. Ducks don't even have their 2nd if I'm not mistaken. I think it was moved for Cogs. May be wrong.

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Dreger been on a roll all year making up bs rumors. Lol Grabovski would return a hell of alot more than that.
Do people not understand that this was reported as a standing offer? It could've been a 7th round draft pick and it would have about the same meaning as far as Grabovski's value goes. This is just something that was offered and the price can obviously rise and likely will with time if a deal were to be made.

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Leafs may keep Grabo regardless of contract status, but will consider a 1st, or the existing offer of a 2nd and a prospect. All options.

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Most Hawk fans are obsessed with McNeill as prospect and Kruger is loved by Bowman's/Q because his D has been NHL ready from start jumping over the pond

Pirri wasn't a Bowman pick so alot of it stems from fact most GM's prefer to trade the previous regimes prospects instead of there own

Bowman drafted Mcneill and Kruger's D and versatility to play both wings + C well is valued by coaches/Bowman

So Pirri just jumps out as the guy who is expendable while bringing back value
I'd definitely be in if the 2nd turned to a 1st and then package the 1st to get a Carter or someone to fill the open spot. Just hoping Burke can make some magic again.

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This is a great point:
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Sent: Feb 16, 2012 9:57p

Leafs originally traded a second round pick and prospect for Grabovski. How has his value not changed in the last four years?

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Have to think Poile and Nashville are all over this if available...

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