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02-16-2012, 09:47 PM
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Gardiner has far less to worry about compared to the rest of the team

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02-16-2012, 09:48 PM
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I wonder if Blitz knows Nash and Kessel both play RW

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We got a ****ing expressway named after this kid, no way we're trading him.
And this, my friend, is the post of the day!

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02-16-2012, 09:50 PM
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Ya, lets trade young, ultra talented players who want to be a Leaf.
time to trade kessel

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I don't think Lupul is any different from guys like Sharp, Lucic, Hartnell/Jagr, Horton etc that are on winning teams top line.
Look at the situations they are in.

Sharp - Shooter who plays defensive and can cash in off the playmaking of Toews.
Lucic - Hard nosed guy who creates space for Horton and Krejci
Hartnell Same as Lucic

You all ***** about having a guy who will stand up for Kessel. Who would you rather have on our top line, Lupul or Lucic? For me it's Lucic because he does the things Kessel doesn't, and that's what linemates do.

Why is Burrows good? He does what the Sedins dont.

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What? When did I ever say this, all I said is why would we trade Gardiner++ for Nash? He's not that good and we lose in the long term and take a huge risk short term.
You said ++ I have no idea what ++ is. I can only imagine that it means you add.

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I wonder if Blitz knows Nash and Kessel both play RW
Rick Nash has played LW his whole career I thought

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I wonder if Blitz knows Nash and Kessel both play RW
they do (and he probably doesn't) but Nash can play anywhere

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Trading him would be a huuuuge mistake. Kid is a gem.

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I wonder if Blitz knows Nash and Kessel both play RW
Nash can play both sides but strives on the right side.

If Biitz is ever GM

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lol. so Nash, with Kessel, would be leading the league in scoring?

you're digging a hole to big to get out of. good luck. I'm done with this stupid discussion. thankfully Burke agrees with me on this one, and JG will not be going anywhere.
Burke agrees with you? When did Burke said he wouldn't trade him. Hello Stephen Glass.


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I wonder if Blitz knows Nash and Kessel both play RW
I do. And, he's played LW before. I'm pretty sure Lupul was a RW before he came here.

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Rick Nash has played LW his whole career I thought

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HockeyDB has him listed as left wing. Like I said, he can play both. No idea why you brought it up.

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they do (and he probably doesn't) but Nash can play anywhere
Well ya, any player can play anywhere. Kadri and Kessel started as centers. It is about where they play their best.

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You said ++ I have no idea what ++ is. I can only imagine that it means you add.
Sorry bout that, I mean we add 2 more high value players, or picks, like a first and kulemin or kadri and mac.

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Well ya, any player can play anywhere. Kadri and Kessel started as centers. It is about where they play their best.
Nash wanting to play the right side doesn't mean there is a big drop off having him on the left.

not going to matter anyway. not sure why it's being discussed

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HockeyDB has him listed as left wing. Like I said, he can play both. No idea why you brought it up.
Only because this is one of the more asinine threads and you re wrong on so many accounts. Might as well ad something else.


BTW he can also play Center, but that doesnt mean much.

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Burke agrees with you? When did Burke said he wouldn't trade him. Hello Stephen Glass.




I do. And, he's played LW before. I'm pretty sure Lupul was a RW before he came here.
yes Burke agrees with me that Jake won't be traded.

come back March 1st and I'll say "I told ya so"

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02-16-2012, 09:57 PM
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Gardiner is a a heck of a young hockey player. I hope he is here for the long haul.

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02-16-2012, 09:57 PM
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Jake Gardiner.

How do you know his upside? Where is potential shown? Talk about potential after a season.
There is more potential in Gardiner then there is in Schenn by far. Very easy to see it.

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Schenn for JVR

Nash is overrated and overpaid.
If Nash is overrated then what does that make JVR, who we base his potential on a 2 week run he had.

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02-16-2012, 09:58 PM
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i was at the game in edmonton last night and Gardiner was impressive.. didn't get into much trouble and scored a beauty in the 3rd.. i thought Franson was the most noticable D man and gardiner a close 2nd.

Komi the least impressive.. liles was meh, as was phaneuf before the last backcheck which was awesome.

I'd love nash here in toronto but not in a deal involving a young premiere up and coming D man like gardiner.

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Sorry bout that, I mean we add 2 more high value players, or picks, like a first and kulemin or kadri and mac.
Oh, well I don't know who we'd add.

I'll try and not steer this thread when I say this.

It's almost impossible to trade Nash. Simply because his contract is big that a roster player would have to be moved. But, it would have to be a good roster player. CBJ doesn't want good roster players, they want good prospects. The better the roster player the worse the prospect is.

Like hypothetically if we had to move say, Kessel. Burke wouldn't add anything. But, if we were to move Lombardi we'd add a good prospect.

They can't really move Nash until the off season when teams have more flexibility.

Also, this has been THE face of their franchise since they moved. If they trade for potential that doesn't become as good as him, CBJ is ****ed and will probably relocate.

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02-16-2012, 09:59 PM
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I'd trade Schenn, Franson, Aulie, Phaneuf, Liles before I think about trading Gardiner. In my opinion he's the best defensemen on this team and he's only 21. His skating ability, his poise, his vision are all just awesome... what a beaut. He needs to work on getting stronger, and improving his shot, we need to see shots like he had in Edmonton more often. But in terms of potential, the kid has the tools to be a #1 defensemen in this league, he may not put it all together but we gotta keep him and find out. I wouldn't trade him in a package for Nash, simply because we have other pieces we can trade before him, he should be close to untouchable.

Can't give up on our young assets when they show as much promise as Jake shows. It'll be something that will probably come back to bite us in the butt as it always does.

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02-16-2012, 10:00 PM
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Only because this is one of the more asinine threads and you re wrong on so many accounts. Might as well ad something else.


BTW he can also play Center, but that doesnt mean much.
Great, so he's a flexible forward. Now, you won't have to bring up such a small point to make yourself seem smart.

I'm wrong to who? Do you know how good Gardiner will become? I'm wrong to you, and you're wrong to me. Move on.

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yes Burke agrees with me that Jake won't be traded.

come back March 1st and I'll say "I told ya so"
Like I said in my previous post, Nash won't even be moved at the deadline, so I could care less about coming back to you.

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02-16-2012, 10:00 PM
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He is fast, passes at a very high level already and can shoot like kabby never could.

Put him with a McCabe and 40 would be easy. Not to mention he already has 18 points this year, will end near 25, if not more.
His passing is good, but he's not at Kaberle's level. And Kaberle was a great shooter. He just never utilized it. Kaberle, when on his game, was arguably the premiere PMD in the league.

I've seen a lot of defensemen come through Toronto over the years, and Gardiner's skating seems to be the only thing that sticks out to me. He has a long way to go, and I won't be surprised if the fanbase turns on him next year should he sophmore slump.

The only concern with moving him would be the lack of mobile puck movers on our blueline, which is the bread and butter of our entire system.

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