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02-26-2012, 10:12 AM
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Dammit. The US is going to die in this game. We've just lost a decent I.1 team (118OTS). Then Blackkat says he was 2 days away from having his team deleted before he chickened out. And now Leggmann has mentioned he's almost quit a few times. Says he might actually do it when his current ProPack runs out. WTF? If all of that happens... ****, it'll be boring.




When are you coming up to I.1?
Hopefully this season. Been better then at least a couple of the teams that promoted the past couple seasons. But I was an idiot in at least one of them and never played on high intensity and rarely on normal.

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I've always enjoyed your conversations, and i'm excited to read some press releases if/when you do them!
Well, an audience of one is better than an audience of none. The press releases will start some time soon.

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I agree completely. I have always been on the shy side, so it really takes something to get me to speak up and do so regularly. I would be much more active if 1) there were better non-PPM conversations and 2) if my team were real good and I felt like my team was worth talking about. Because my team is not very good, #1 is the most important.
I have a similar opinion on #1, can only talk so much about PPM.

As for #2, my soccer team is probably in the "real good" category, but I tend to hold back talking about it sometimes because I don't want to be the guy that's bragging about his team constantly. Part of the reason for my success is a few great pulls as well as a good number of solid pulls and not every team has had those.


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Normally I would agree that this is a part of games like this. However, it's the people who are quitting that worries me. The US forums aren't hugely active, but the guys who have quit/are talking about quitting are the main posters. Those are the people who should be staying.
This recent string of higher profile managers quitting bothers me as well. I'd like to think that a more active forum would provide some incentive to stay, but I see the forums becoming less and less utilized. The forum overhaul, if done right, could be a good boost to the community.

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Maybe it will be better in the long run to get rid of Leggmann. I could see a new batch of guys come along who never knew about all the great teams who have quit. Of course, if Leggmann and Blackkat quit, then we're almost in the same spot we are now. There will only be one or two teams who will be dominating.
The one or two teams that would be "dominating" would be closer to the rest of the teams in the US, so it should still be a competitive improvement. However, I'm not the type that wants to have a higher ranked team only because other managers with better teams decided to leave the game.

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Unfortunately I don't see us ever having active forums in the US. No one seems to want to talk about their teams. Without that there will never be much communication. I tried in every league I've been in to be somewhat active and get very little response. For a while I was on pace to have the most posts in the US (currently 6th), but I tailed off quite a bit lately. It's kind of pointless when I have almost half the posts on each page in the league topic. And most of the other replies are Obryantj replying to me
I definitely expected more activity on the US National Team (Soccer) thread, but there's been no posts in about 2 weeks. Since our match against Latvia, their NT thread has had 38 posts. They went VL in that match and apparently there are some people who weren't happy with it.

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In hockey, I play the Razorback Thugs in the NC tomorrow. They're not the Force, but they're in the next tier of teams and will probably beat me by a decent amount. League play is going as expected, with me currently sitting in 2nd place after losing to the Wiggly Pigs earlier in the season. I did have 3 players hit 800 OR in the past few days; a homegrown RD (21 yo), a French RW (21 yo) and my top C (19 yo).

In soccer, I broke a 3 match scoreless streak on Sunday, with a 2-0 win. The High Headerz lost, resulting in my lead increasing to 9 points. The High Headerz are on a 3 match losing streak and are in danger of losing 2nd place soon though. In the next 16 days, I'll have TF-14, MnC-9, SA-13, a 4k DFM and a 10k DFM finished. That's a lot of upgrades happening at once. I'm also looking forward to prize money and sponsorship offers this season. I should be looking at large increases, at least based on my current position. Bragg and Valina (both forwards) have hit 600 OR in the past week or so. The next player in line to hit 600 OR is my 17 year old backup goalie, who should probably be given a shot at a starting role one way or another.

I currently have one player on the market and may be selling some more players off soon. If anyone needs something in particular, let me know and I'll see if I have any (available) players who meet your criteria.

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As for #2, my soccer team is probably in the "real good" category, but I tend to hold back talking about it sometimes because I don't want to be the guy that's bragging about his team constantly. Part of the reason for my success is a few great pulls as well as a good number of solid pulls and not every team has had those.
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The one or two teams that would be "dominating" would be closer to the rest of the teams in the US, so it should still be a competitive improvement. However, I'm not the type that wants to have a higher ranked team only because other managers with better teams decided to leave the game.
I was talking about new managers who are just starting out. They'd be in the same situation with the Psychos as we are with the Force. And I agree, it sucks to advance because everyone else quits. I wanted to fight for survival this season just to prove that I can make it, but I've kind of lost interest in that. It just wouldn't be as impressive. C'est la vie.

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I definitely expected more activity on the US National Team (Soccer) thread, but there's been no posts in about 2 weeks. Since our match against Latvia, their NT thread has had 38 posts. They went VL in that match and apparently there are some people who weren't happy with it.
I forgot to mention that match. Nice job So how does this work? The top 4 teams from each group make it into the World Cup? We're in a pretty good spot right now

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In hockey, I play the Razorback Thugs in the NC tomorrow. They're not the Force, but they're in the next tier of teams and will probably beat me by a decent amount. League play is going as expected, with me currently sitting in 2nd place after losing to the Wiggly Pigs earlier in the season. I did have 3 players hit 800 OR in the past few days; a homegrown RD (21 yo), a French RW (21 yo) and my top C (19 yo).
The Thugs only beat me 1-3. I don't think he had a camp going either. So you might be able to surprise him.

Zeb Lau is going to hit 900or this week I seriously need to pay a bit more attention Trusis is up to 875! He was sick in that TC. Whoa. Rastislav Falk will hit 800or as an 18yo (currently 757or). Jose Baker is a long shot to hit 600or at 16yo! I figure he'll get to around 580 with normal training, and I have one more camp to go.

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In the next 16 days, I'll have TF-14, MnC-9, SA-13, a 4k DFM and a 10k DFM finished. That's a lot of upgrades happening at once. I'm also looking forward to prize money and sponsorship offers this season. I should be looking at large increases, at least based on my current position.
I'm in a similar spot except I'm 1-3 weeks behind. 10k DFM is 2 weeks away and two 4k DFMs are 5 weeks away. Then I have TF14, HR12, EC8 & SA13 all 20-29 days away. MC7 will be done tonight and Med10 will be done in 40 days. And I still have 30M in the bank But that will probably be used for stand accessories and building MC up to 10.

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Bragg and Valina (both forwards) have hit 600 OR in the past week or so. The next player in line to hit 600 OR is my 17 year old backup goalie, who should probably be given a shot at a starting role one way or another.
McCready is about to hit 700or I currently have 5 guys over 600or, but one is just a T&S (Rupprecht or something like that). I'm pretty excited about the group of guys who are about to hit 600or- Sember, Cernohorsky, Blount, Hricek & Melenec.

And yet my team SUCKS!

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And yet my team SUCKS!
redcard's sucks worse? Thanks for not scoring on your only two shots on goal again. I honestly can't handle many more draws this season. The only thing worse is a 0-1 loss. It seems like every other game is a draw or a 0-1 loss. That ish is wearing me out. I can handle everything else.

Quarterfinals in the CWC tomorrow. I'm playing a pretty weak team, but he probably has the energy advantage since he's in a crap league. I'm hoping for a shutout so I don't have to worry about losing on an away goals tiebreaker. I think that's just about the worst way to go down.

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redcard's sucks worse? Thanks for not scoring on your only two shots on goal again. I honestly can't handle many more draws this season. The only thing worse is a 0-1 loss. It seems like every other game is a draw or a 0-1 loss. That ish is wearing me out. I can handle everything else.

Quarterfinals in the CWC tomorrow. I'm playing a pretty weak team, but he probably has the energy advantage since he's in a crap league. I'm hoping for a shutout so I don't have to worry about losing on an away goals tiebreaker. I think that's just about the worst way to go down.
Funny thing is I was thinking about going high, but my team is gassed from the NC so I figured I'd go easy on you . In all seriousness I'm quite content with just trying to stay out of the relegation zone, which shouldn't be too difficult.

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I messed up the CWC schedule. I was looking for a shutout in this one thinking that would give them 0 away goals. Nope. The top seed plays on the road first. Which means my game has already been played. 4-1 win So I'm through as long as I don't lose by 4 goals. Right?

It looks like it'll be two American teams and two Canadians going to the semis. Smooth Dolphins and Loser Patrol for Canada, and the Chicago Firehoses are the other American team. I think the two Canucks will go through. My team is just complete **** against superior teams.

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Funny thing is I was thinking about going high, but my team is gassed from the NC so I figured I'd go easy on you . In all seriousness I'm quite content with just trying to stay out of the relegation zone, which shouldn't be too difficult.
Thanks. I need all the I can get I wish I could be content with just surviving. I need some energy for the CWC. I just can't stop myself from playing league games on High for at least a half. I keep telling myself that it's over, but it doesn't seem to sink in

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Well, perhaps we can try that. Here's some practice: you're 5th in ST (152), t-9th in SW (183), but only 10th in G. You're also 4th in STA (93), t-3rd in SWA (153), and 2nd in GA (22).

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I was talking about new managers who are just starting out. They'd be in the same situation with the Psychos as we are with the Force. And I agree, it sucks to advance because everyone else quits. I wanted to fight for survival this season just to prove that I can make it, but I've kind of lost interest in that. It just wouldn't be as impressive. C'est la vie.
I was in my probabilistic mode, where a new team has, say a 0.0005% chance to beat the Force, but they have a 0.006% chance to beat the Psychos.

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I forgot to mention that match. Nice job So how does this work? The top 4 teams from each group make it into the World Cup? We're in a pretty good spot right now
Top 4 teams from each group make the World Cup Finals. Then seeding is going to be done by Ranking (from "Ranking of Countries"). We've essentially clinched advancement now as we just need 1 more point or to hold our GD advantage vs. Turkey. I figured we would be in this position before this season's WC qualification matches and that's why we've been playing our B-team in the qualifiers so far.

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The Thugs only beat me 1-3. I don't think he had a camp going either. So you might be able to surprise him.
I lost, even with him playing on low all game. I had an early 2-1 lead that didn't hold up. I didn't expect to pull it out, but I wanted to give it my best shot.

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I'm in a similar spot except I'm 1-3 weeks behind. 10k DFM is 2 weeks away and two 4k DFMs are 5 weeks away. Then I have TF14, HR12, EC8 & SA13 all 20-29 days away. MC7 will be done tonight and Med10 will be done in 40 days. And I still have 30M in the bank But that will probably be used for stand accessories and building MC up to 10.
I'm at 35M today (after sponsorship cash) and I'm strongly leaning towards taking out a max loan and starting TF-15 when I can. Are you going to be starting TF-15 soon?


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Funny thing is I was thinking about going high, but my team is gassed from the NC so I figured I'd go easy on you . In all seriousness I'm quite content with just trying to stay out of the relegation zone, which shouldn't be too difficult.
I'd say your good with staying out of the relegation zone. Feel free to go easy on me on Sunday as well.

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I'm at 35M today (after sponsorship cash) and I'm strongly leaning towards taking out a max loan and starting TF-15 when I can. Are you going to be starting TF-15 soon?
It's a good feeling knowing you won't have to touch it again. It's a tonne of cash though. Will add 15% to your TF-14 rates. I popped it to take advantage of my youth (all players except GK are 5/6 or better and team average AQ is 75+) and also be of the teams that can flip players. Now that TF-15 is underway I turn to focus on my stadium. May be hard to fund that as I'm bound for div2.

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Well, perhaps we can try that. Here's some practice: you're 5th in ST (152), t-9th in SW (183), but only 10th in G. You're also 4th in STA (93), t-3rd in SWA (153), and 2nd in GA (22).
Those numbers are almost as ridiculous as Bragg's goals scored. I almost called him Stamkos

It's crazy how this season has been. Just 5 more well placed goals and I'm in the ChL. And it's not like I'm asking for something that the team hasn't earned. There's been a bunch of games where my team dominated and either tied or lost on the other teams only shot.

Clarification. Tied for 9th in shots wide means there are 8 teams with more shots wide than the Atomics?

How many shots on target did you need to reach 60 goals? I have 38G in 152ST. 335 Shots in total.

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38M after sponsors and I won't be starting TF15 any time soon. Unless player sales go a lot better than expected. I already took out a max loan at the beginning of this season so I could get my Doubles started. I'll either start HR13 or SA14 next. Then get some more Doubles started/maxed out.

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Hopefully I get a good youth pull tomorrow.

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Your manager name isn't canucks357 so your odds are better than mine

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I doubt it. Only 1 pull over 300 OR ever.

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I doubt it. Only 1 pull over 300 OR ever.
Aye. Ever eh? Hmmmm well my Lvl-12 SA doesn't do much better. But good luck! We should have a challenge... who pulls the ****tier players! Take the average of:

OR x Star Rating of Position (Based on ability at pull)

Averaged for all pulls. Then normalize that to your SA level. Whoever is lowest wins! It's a win-win. If you get a stud, you lose the bet but win in PPM. If you get squat then you win the bet!

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Aye. Ever eh? Hmmmm well my Lvl-12 SA doesn't do much better. But good luck! We should have a challenge... who pulls the ****tier players! Take the average of:

OR x Star Rating of Position (Based on ability at pull)

Averaged for all pulls. Then normalize that to your SA level. Whoever is lowest wins! It's a win-win. If you get a stud, you lose the bet but win in PPM. If you get squat then you win the bet!
sounds like it could be fun.

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sounds like it could be fun.
Deal! I'll lead just to give an example of the math . Whatcha want to wager?

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It looks like it'll be two American teams and two Canadians going to the semis. Smooth Dolphins and Loser Patrol for Canada, and the Chicago Firehoses are the other American team. I think the two Canucks will go through. My team is just complete **** against superior teams.
Whoa. Loser Patrol lost 0-3 OTS of 60 v 40. Wow. If that Saudi Arabian team manages to win that series, I become the top seed And I would get to play this Arabian team for the right to go to the Finals

Dolphins & Firehoses dominate as expected.

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Deal! I'll lead just to give an example of the math . Whatcha want to wager?
best OVR player under 20? lol

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Three players:

271 OR 3* Winger
253 OR 3* Centre
219 OR 1* Winger

Gives 271*3 + 253*3 + 219 = 597/player on average.

My SA is level 12 thus 597/12 is a pull score of 49.75.

What'd you get? In all honesty, this is my best pull this season. Bad luck for me

Edit: Crap. Should have taken C/L into account. Forgot to even look at my guys' CL. Ah well.


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238or 2* C
169or 1.5* W
144 1.5* D

476 + 253.5 + 216 = 945.5/3 = 315.1/12 = 26.25

I just did the math quickly in my head, but it looks right. Those 3 guys suck.

But I pulled a fourth as well And he is good Just under 300or & 6/6. A **** right dman. My first useful RD pull ever? Hmm, I did pull Clyde Woodward. He's been starting for a while, but only because all other RDs are crap. I guess he's been useful. His usefulness is over.

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213 3* for all positions

206 1 1/2* for all positions

163 1* defenseman

(213 x 3) + (206 x 1.5) + 163

639 + 309 + 163 = 1,111

1,111 / 3 = 370.3

370.3 / 11 = 33.6

Bleh.

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213 3* for all positions

206 1 1/2* for all positions

163 1* defenseman

(213 x 3) + (206 x 1.5) + 163

639 + 309 + 163 = 1,111

1,111 / 3 = 370.3

370.3 / 11 = 33.6

Bleh.
On the bright side you won! On the bright side #2 I was dumb and took those two pulls. Not only would they take 8 seasons to be worth anything BUT their Qs are crap. So they're scout+cut guys. At least you saved your money.

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Those numbers are almost as ridiculous as Bragg's goals scored. I almost called him Stamkos
Those were your numbers, they're only ridiculous when you take into account your place in the standings.

I'm 1st in ST with 200, the 2nd best team has 177 (Baldwin Bombers).
I'm 2nd in SW with 217, the top team has 222 (Bayern Munich).
1'm 1st in STA with 51, the 2nd best team has allowed 88 (High Headerz).
I'm 1st in SWA with 105, the 2nd best team has allowed 141 (FC Corona).

Bragg has 68 ST and 63 SW in 31 matches, while Valina has 46 ST and 31 SW in 26 matches. The fact that Bragg has more ST than my opponents have against me is pretty awesome. Valina is also averaging more ST than my opponents are averaging against me.

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It's crazy how this season has been. Just 5 more well placed goals and I'm in the ChL. And it's not like I'm asking for something that the team hasn't earned. There's been a bunch of games where my team dominated and either tied or lost on the other teams only shot.
Last season I lost to FC Corona twice and finished 11 points behind them. Two wins against them and I win the league (last season), so that's been a driving factor in the way I've selected tactics this season.

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Clarification. Tied for 9th in shots wide means there are 8 teams with more shots wide than the Atomics?
Yes, but only 4 of them also have more ST than you. They are the Baldwin Bombers, FC Corona, Pookinators and Boilermakers.

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How many shots on target did you need to reach 60 goals? I have 38G in 152ST. 335 Shots in total.
Answered this above, 60 goals on 200 ST and 217 SW, so 417 shots total. In season 4, I scored 60 goals on 188 ST and 277 SW, 465 shots total.

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38M after sponsors and I won't be starting TF15 any time soon. Unless player sales go a lot better than expected. I already took out a max loan at the beginning of this season so I could get my Doubles started. I'll either start HR13 or SA14 next. Then get some more Doubles started/maxed out.
I'm hoping the player I have on the market brings in a fair amount, but it doesn't look good at the moment. He's at 50k with under 10 hours to go. Realistically, I won't be able to start TF-15 until March 14th. If I take the plunge on that, then next season I'll try to start HR-13, SA-14 and a couple of DFM. Although I'm anticipating a large increase in sponsorship funds next season as well.


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It's a good feeling knowing you won't have to touch it again. It's a tonne of cash though. Will add 15% to your TF-14 rates. I popped it to take advantage of my youth (all players except GK are 5/6 or better and team average AQ is 75+) and also be of the teams that can flip players. Now that TF-15 is underway I turn to focus on my stadium. May be hard to fund that as I'm bound for div2.
My TF-14 hasn't quite finished, but adding 15% to that sounds fantastic. I'm really looking forward to having one less thing to throw money at.

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On the bright side you won! On the bright side #2 I was dumb and took those two pulls. Not only would they take 8 seasons to be worth anything BUT their Qs are crap. So they're scout+cut guys. At least you saved your money.
I pulled two players as well. Both are 3* in the position they were trained at. They're probably scout and cut guys as well, although I do have some space on my roster.

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My hockey pull isn't as good as his 4 stars led me to believe. Tech Q = 67 & Aggr = 75. Hopefully he scouts out a bit better.

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I'm 1st in ST with 200, the 2nd best team has 177 (Baldwin Bombers).
I'm 2nd in SW with 217, the top team has 222 (Bayern Munich).
1'm 1st in STA with 51, the 2nd best team has allowed 88 (High Headerz).
I'm 1st in SWA with 105, the 2nd best team has allowed 141 (FC Corona).
You're having an amazing season. It's insane how much you're dominating on both sides of the pitch. And you have a +44 GD!

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Bragg has 68 ST and 63 SW in 31 matches, while Valina has 46 ST and 31 SW in 26 matches. The fact that Bragg has more ST than my opponents have against me is pretty awesome. Valina is also averaging more ST than my opponents are averaging against me.
I don't know how he's doing so well. He certainly isn't the best forward I've scouted And Valina is doing pretty good in his own right. I know most people would be happy with him as their top scorer.

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Last season I lost to FC Corona twice and finished 11 points behind them. Two wins against them and I win the league (last season), so that's been a driving factor in the way I've selected tactics this season.
Did you dominate and lose? Or were they just close games that you lost? Here's the games that really hurt me this season.
0-0 - Ugh. Worst result ever.
0-1 - New worst result ever.
1-2 - 56% possession!
1-2 - Not as bad, but redcard scores on only two STs, dammit.
1-1 - Come on. Gimme an effing chance, whydoncha.
0-0 - Worst team in the freaking league and I get squat!

Most of those still hurt. I don't think 5 more points is out of the question, 8 more would be more like it. But most of the loses have been painful this season because all of them have been by one goal except for that game forward Kyle Durkeee was put in net (0-2). I just needed a little bit of help

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