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Eric Tangradi
Jordan Schroeder
Vancouver 2nd, 2012
Pittsburgh 2nd, 2012
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Brendan Morrow
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Mason Raymond
Stars add some great prospect depth, and get guys who seem to be buried under depth where they won't have a great chance to succeed, which they will in Dallas. We also continue to stockpile picks, always a big help.
Vancouver gives up the most for a risky player, but chances are he'll turn out great and end up becoming a force in the playoffs and next year. Go ahead and tell me he looks like he's slowing down this year, but he's played ~8 games at 100%, where he scored 10 points. If he isn't ready to go this year, he'll come back next year and score 30 goals, I can almost guarantee that.
Pittsburgh gets a speedy top 6 forward to help solidify their forward depth, and he's got a great contract for them as well. They give up a player who seems to just have no chance at all there, and the 2nd shouldn't be that hard to part with.
Flame away.
Last edited by LatvianTwist: 02-18-2012 at 09:13 PM.
I want a forward who can make more of an impact than Raymond at this point. A Sidless Pens team needs Staal to be a huge playoff performer and Raymond isn't enough to make him one, imo.
It's not terrible valuewise from our point of view though. Just would rather use those assets to bring in a bigger fish.
That's the thing, though. The only thing I think you could add that would entice us is Morrow or Despres, both of which are obviously unavailable.
If a 2nd is too much to upgrade from Tangradi to Raymond, then I don't see a trade in our futures at all. And I can't believe anyone doesn't see the upgrade from Tangradi to Raymond.
If the package from Vancouver is too much, I think a 2nd would be alright too. It's just that there'd likely be a bidding war, and that's what I would see taking the prize. A 2nd would be more realistic value.
That's the thing, though. The only thing I think you could add that would entice us is Morrow or Despres, both of which are obviously unavailable.
If a 2nd is too much to upgrade from Tangradi to Raymond, then I don't see a trade in our futures at all. And I can't believe anyone doesn't see the upgrade from Tangradi to Raymond.
If the package from Vancouver is too much, I think a 2nd would be alright too. It's just that there'd likely be a bidding war, and that's what I would see taking the prize. A 2nd would be more realistic value.
if we're trying to stage a bidding war for morrow why bother with a three way trade?
And how are we staging this bidding war with him on the shelf probably until after the deadline
Meh, should've said this in the OP. I really want Tangradi in a Stars' uniform, but to get him and Morrow in the same deal, all that you guys' would give up is Kennedy+Tangradi+2nd, which simply won't cut it. This is the best way I could find us shipping out Morrow while still getting Tangradi, but it obviously won't happen.
That's the thing, though. The only thing I think you could add that would entice us is Morrow or Despres, both of which are obviously unavailable.
If a 2nd is too much to upgrade from Tangradi to Raymond, then I don't see a trade in our futures at all. And I can't believe anyone doesn't see the upgrade from Tangradi to Raymond.
That's why I said Tangradi+ for Raymond is fair. But from our point of view, if we can use those assets in a package to nab AK, that's a better avenue.
Would Morrow be able to get Tangradi+Despres/Morrow? That's what I think we'd ask for, considering your 1st is off the table for certain. I'd rather have that than a large package of prospects.
Would Morrow be able to get Tangradi+Despres/Morrow? That's what I think we'd ask for, considering your 1st is off the table for certain. I'd rather have that than a large package of prospects.
Personally, I'd move Tangradi+1st for Morrow. We'd have to move salary at some point next year, but I'm sure we could figure it out.
If Shero is interested, I'd imagine we'd need some kind of medical opinion on Morrow to see if he's going to be good to go come playoffs.
Would do Eric Tangradi + 2nd for Raymond if we plan on getting another top 9 forward but no way interested in the Morrow trade.
#1 He's too expensive. Only way this works is if we keep Ballard on LTIR until the playoffs. Not to mention his production next year is meaningless 'cause the 'nucks can't keep him next year nor does it make sense. Its better to spend that money on D not another expensive forward.
#2 Raymond, Schroeder, and a 1st... thats a lot to give up. So much in fact, we might as well go bid for Carter. Just add Schneider to that package and we'll probably have one of the best package for Carter (and thats ignoring problem #1... i.e. the 'nucks won't make this type of move)
#3 He would end up being on the 3rd line and has had similar production as Raymond (in terms of pace) this year. So a side move doesn't even make sense. He doesn't fit in the 2nd line due to the speed. The first line is full.
Personally, I'd move Tangradi+1st for Morrow. We'd have to move salary at some point next year, but I'm sure we could figure it out.
If Shero is interested, I'd imagine we'd need some kind of medical opinion on Morrow to see if he's going to be good to go come playoffs.
The value is there, but with the draft being in Pittsburgh, unless you get another 1st, no way that happens.
Chances are Morrow won't be good for this year's playoffs, but next year, he will be. I think an OS deal would work great between these two, and we could get your 2013 1st then.
Would Morrow be able to get Tangradi+Despres/Morrow? That's what I think we'd ask for, considering your 1st is off the table for certain. I'd rather have that than a large package of prospects.
Despres and Morrow are non-starters. They offer too much of what we need if/when Martin is dealt.
Tangradi + 1st could be doable, if Dallas can add a different sort of wing prospect we might want. Reilly Smith?
Would Morrow be able to get Tangradi+Despres/Morrow? That's what I think we'd ask for, considering your 1st is off the table for certain. I'd rather have that than a large package of prospects.
No . . . Despres and Morrow are untouchables. I mean, if Joe called Ray and said 'I'll give you Benn for Despres', then they're not untouchable, but you and I both know that's not happening, which means for all intents and purposes they are untouchable.
Shero isn't trading his 1st. The other two untouchables are Beau Bennett and Scott Harrington. Personally, I think Bennett could be had in a deal for a winger with some term, but Shero would be looking for a younger guy who he'd have for more than 15 months.
Simply put, I imagine that Ray Shero wouldn't be offering an asset more valuable than a 2nd or a Tangradi or a Kennedy or a Jeffrey or a Bortuzzo in some combination.
I just don't see how there's a hockey trade to be made between the Pens and Stars for Brendan Morrow. The expendable (touchable) pieces aren't there for the Pens for a 33 year old winger with injury issues and one more year on his contract.
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