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10-29-2004, 08:30 PM
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Guess the new top 50 Prospects list!

With all the discussion over the new list thats coming out soon, we should all do a little prognosticating. I'm working on my list right now, and i'll probably post it later tonight.

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10-29-2004, 09:17 PM
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No specific order...

Alexander Ovechkin
Evgeny Malkin
Marc-Andre Fleury
Kari Lehtonen
Thomas Vanek
Ryan Suter
Alexander Semin
Nathan Horton
Nikolai Zherdev
Dion Phaneuf
Igor Grigorenko
Milan Michalek
Fedor Tjutin
Ray Emery
Jeff Carter
Braydon Coburn
Zach Parise
Mikko Koivu
Anthony Stewart
Patrick O'Sullivan
Andrei Kostsitsyn
Mark Stuart
Denis Grebeshkov
Dustin Brown
Ryan Getzlaf
Ryan Whitney
Rob Schremp
Jeff Woywitka
Ryan Kesler
David LeNeveau
Mike Richards
Hannu Toivonen
Alexander Steen
Jiri Hudler
Carlo Colaiacovo
Ilja Bryzgalov
Ryan Miller
Chris Higgins
Pascal Leclaire
Marc-Antoine Pouilot
Loui Eriksson
Eric Fehr
Cam Barker
Shea Weber
JD Deslauriers
Max Ouellet
Steve Eminger
Derek Roy
Henrik Lundqvist
Anton Babchuk


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Leafaholix, Rob Schremp was taken 25th overall in his draft just a few short months ago. And now you have him 25th overall in terms of entire prospects? Do you think THAT highly of him?

I don't see him being a better prospect then Cam Barker, Montoya, Olesz, Schwarz, Zajac, Wolski, Meszaros and Chucko to name a few.

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10-29-2004, 09:37 PM
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Leafaholix, Rob Schremp was taken 25th overall in his draft just a few short months ago. And now you have him 25th overall in terms of entire prospects? Do you think THAT highly of him?

I don't see him being a better prospect then Cam Barker, Montoya, Olesz, Schwarz, Zajac, Wolski, Meszaros and Chucko to name a few.
He said in no particular order.

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He said in no particular order.
Yup, he did. Thats what I get for working 12 hours and thinking I am still away.

My mistake.

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Leafaholix, Rob Schremp was taken 25th overall in his draft just a few short months ago. And now you have him 25th overall in terms of entire prospects? Do you think THAT highly of him?

I don't see him being a better prospect then Cam Barker, Montoya, Olesz, Schwarz, Zajac, Wolski, Meszaros and Chucko to name a few.
I don't care where he was picked in the draft, his potential is higher than most of the forwards in the 2004 draft.

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Excellent list, Leafaholix.

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I don't care where he was picked in the draft, his potential is higher than most of the forwards in the 2004 draft.
Fair enough man.

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Originally Posted by Leafaholix
No specific order...

Alexander Ovechkin
Evgeny Malkin
Marc-Andre Fleury
Kari Lehtonen
Thomas Vanek
Ryan Suter
Nikolai Zherdev
Dion Phaneuf
Igor Grigorenko
Milan Michalek
Fedor Tjutin
Jeff Carter
Braydon Coburn
Zach Parise
Mikko Koivu
Anthony Stewart
Patrick O'Sullivan
Andrei Kostsitsyn
Mark Stuart
Denis Grebeshkov
Dustin Brown
Ryan Getzlaf
Ryan Whitney
Rob Schremp
Jeff Woywitka
Ryan Kesler
Lauri Tukonen
Mike Richards
Hannu Toivonen
Alexander Steen
Jeff Woywitka
Jiri Hudler
Carlo Colaiacovo
Lukas Krajicek
Ilja Bryzgalov
Ryan Miller
Chris Higgins
Pascal Leclaire
Marc-Antoine Pouilot
Alexander Perezhogin
Eric Fehr
Cam Barker
Andrej Meszaros
Niklas Kronwall
Max Ouellet
Corey Perry
Derek Roy
Scottie Upshall
Alexander Radulov

May be a couple extra picks in there.
Ray Emery is a top 50 prospect for sure, IMO.

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10-29-2004, 09:46 PM
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Ray Emery is a top 50 prospect for sure, IMO.
I thought I had him in there, my bad.

IMO he's one of the top 5 goaltending prospects. Very underrated.

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10-29-2004, 09:51 PM
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nice list!

juste put Alexandre Picard(cbj) somewhere and it's ok

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Another CBJ draftee... Dan Fritsche... is a possible #40-50 on the list.

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his potential is higher

Potentional != great prospect.

Adrian Foster oozes potential... but that doesn't mean he's a good prospect.

Shremp fell to 25th for a reason. He'll most likely bust.

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Shremp fell to 25th for a reason. He'll most likely bust.
Because you said so, or is there a better reason?

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Potentional != great prospect.

Adrian Foster oozes potential... but that doesn't mean he's a good prospect.

Shremp fell to 25th for a reason. He'll most likely bust.
He fell to 25th because of his attitude. I expect him to be succesful in the NHL.

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Horton is missing from your list Leafaholix.. Sorry to be yet another nitpicker.

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Originally Posted by Leafaholix
No specific order...

Alexander Ovechkin
Evgeny Malkin
Marc-Andre Fleury
Kari Lehtonen
Thomas Vanek
Ryan Suter
Nikolai Zherdev
Dion Phaneuf
Igor Grigorenko
Milan Michalek
Fedor Tjutin
Ray Emery
Jeff Carter
Braydon Coburn
Zach Parise
Mikko Koivu
Anthony Stewart
Patrick O'Sullivan
Andrei Kostsitsyn
Mark Stuart
Denis Grebeshkov
Dustin Brown
Ryan Getzlaf
Ryan Whitney
Rob Schremp
Jeff Woywitka
Ryan Kesler
Lauri Tukonen
Mike Richards
Hannu Toivonen
Alexander Steen
Jeff Woywitka
Jiri Hudler
Carlo Colaiacovo
Lukas Krajicek
Ilja Bryzgalov
Ryan Miller
Chris Higgins
Pascal Leclaire
Marc-Antoine Pouilot
Alexander Perezhogin
Eric Fehr
Cam Barker
Andrej Meszaros
Niklas Kronwall
Max Ouellet
Corey Perry
Derek Roy
Scottie Upshall
Alexander Radulov

May be a couple extra picks in there.


Nice first attempt... brave one to go first. Though, i'd probably have Semin in there somewhere. Maybe Lupul if he's still able to be put in the list. Probably a few others.

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10-29-2004, 11:26 PM
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Nice first attempt... brave one to go first. Though, i'd probably have Semin in there somewhere. Maybe Lupul if he's still able to be put in the list. Probably a few others.
Don't think Lupul is eligible, he played 75 games.

As for Semin and Horton, they're automatic. I used last years top 50 as a source and replaced the guys I thought shouldn't be in this years version. Because the core of the top 30 or so should be around again.

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Originally Posted by Leafaholix
No specific order...

Alexander Ovechkin
Evgeny Malkin
Marc-Andre Fleury
Kari Lehtonen
Thomas Vanek
Ryan Suter
Alexander Semin
Nathan Horton
Nikolai Zherdev
Dion Phaneuf
Igor Grigorenko
Milan Michalek
Fedor Tjutin
Ray Emery
Jeff Carter
Braydon Coburn
Zach Parise
Mikko Koivu
Anthony Stewart
Patrick O'Sullivan
Andrei Kostsitsyn
Mark Stuart
Denis Grebeshkov
Dustin Brown
Ryan Getzlaf
Ryan Whitney
Rob Schremp
Jeff Woywitka
Ryan Kesler
Lauri Tukonen
Mike Richards
Hannu Toivonen
Alexander Steen
Jeff Woywitka
Jiri Hudler
Carlo Colaiacovo
Ilja Bryzgalov
Ryan Miller
Chris Higgins
Pascal Leclaire
Marc-Antoine Pouilot
Alexander Perezhogin
Eric Fehr
Cam Barker
Andrej Meszaros
Niklas Kronwall
Max Ouellet
Corey Perry
Derek Roy
Scottie Upshall

May be a couple extra picks in there.
Woywitka's so nice you listed him twice

Good list.

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1. Kari Lehtonen
2. Alexander Ovechkin
3. Marc Andre Fleury
4. Dion Phaneuf
5. Evgeni Malkin
6. Thomas Vanek
7. Ryan Suter
8. Ryan Miller
9. Braydon Coburn
10. Zach Parise
11. Milan Michalek
12. Fedor Tjutin
13. Andrei Kostitsyn
14. Alexander Semin
15. Cam Barker
16. Jeff Carter
17. Andrew Ladd
18. Marek Schwarz
19. Denis Grebeshkov
20. Anton Babchuk
21. Al Montoya
22. Anthony Stewart
23. Jozef Balej
24. Maxime Ouellet
25. Hannu Toivonen
26. Marek Svatos
27. Rostislav Olesz
28. Patrick O'Sullivan
29. Ryan Getzlaf
30. Alexandre Picard
31. Robbie Schremp
32. Igor Grigorenko
33. Jiri Hudler
34. Ryan Whitney
35. Dustin Brown
36. Alexander Steen
37. Ladislav Smid
38. Dan Fritsche
39. Mark Stuart
40. Wojtek Wolski
41. Mike Richards
42. Ryan Kesler
43. A.J Thelen
44. Ray Emery
45. Carlo Colaicovo
46. Mikko Koivu
47. Jeff Woywitka
48. Brent Burns
49. Kirill Koltsov
50. Ilya Bryzgalov

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1. Kari Lehtonen
2. Alexander Ovechkin
3. Marc Andre Fleury
4. Dion Phaneuf
5. Evgeni Malkin
6. Thomas Vanek
7. Ryan Suter
8. Ryan Miller
9. Braydon Coburn
10. Zach Parise
11. Milan Michalek
12. Fedor Tjutin
13. Andrei Kostitsyn
14. Alexander Semin
15. Cam Barker
16. Jeff Carter
17. Andrew Ladd
18. Marek Schwarz
19. Denis Grebeshkov
20. Anton Babchuk
21. Al Montoya
22. Anthony Stewart
23. Jozef Balej
24. Maxime Ouellet
25. Hannu Toivonen
26. Marek Svatos
27. Rostislav Olesz
28. Patrick O'Sullivan
29. Ryan Getzlaf
30. Alexandre Picard
31. Robbie Schremp
32. Igor Grigorenko
33. Jiri Hudler
34. Ryan Whitney
35. Dustin Brown
36. Alexander Steen
37. Ladislav Smid
38. Dan Fritsche
39. Mark Stuart
40. Wojtek Wolski
41. Mike Richards
42. Ryan Kesler
43. A.J Thelen
44. Ray Emery
45. Carlo Colaicovo
46. Mikko Koivu
47. Jeff Woywitka
48. Brent Burns
49. Kirill Koltsov
50. Ilya Bryzgalov
I may be missing a few guys, but Christopher Higgins is easily a top 50 prospect.

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I may be missing a few guys, but Christopher Higgins is easily a top 50 prospect.
very debatable. i dont think he has the upside to a top quality player and therefore hed be around 40-60th for me.

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very debatable. i dont think he has the upside to a top quality player and therefore he wouldnt be in the top 50 for me.
I think he has the upside of a good 2nd line player, and a very good 3rd line forward, captain material. If that's not "top quality", well I guess you should eliminate guys like Ryan Kesler and Andrew Ladd from these lists.

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I may be missing a few guys, but Christopher Higgins is easily a top 50 prospect.
Meh hes got potential, but i dont see him playing a Huge factor on the Canadiens, I see him as a future 3rd liner

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Well as promised, here is my list. As I was making that list up, I realized how hard the writers here at HF have it. There were about 75 guys that I felt were worthy of being on a top-50 list.

#1-Alexander Ovechkin-LW
#2-Kari Lehtonen-G
#3-Marc-Andre Fleury-G
#4-Evgeni Malkin-C
#5-Nikolai Zherdev-W
#6-Dion Phaneuf-D
#7-Nathan Horton-C
#8 Ryan Suter-D
#9 Cam Barker-D
#10 Alexander Semin-LW
#11 Milan Michalek-LW
#12 Tomas Vanek-W
#13 Zach Parise-C
#14 Jeff Carter-C
#15 Braydon Coburn-D
#16 Andrei Kostitsyn-W
#17 Fedor Tjutin-D
#18 Denis Grebeshkov-D
#19 Hannu Toivonen-G
#20 Dustin Brown-W
#21 Alex Steen-C
#22 Ryan Getzlaf-C
#23 Anton Babchuk-D
#24 Ilya Bryzgalov-G
#25 Ryan Miller-G
#26 Christian Ehrhoff-D
#27 Ray Emery-G
#28 Mikko Koivu-C
#29 Anthony Stewart-W
#30 Igor Grigorenko-C
#31 Pddy O'Sullivan-C
#32 Ryan Whitney-D
#33 Maxime Ouellet-G
#34 Mike Richards-C
#35 Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers-G
#36 Steve Eminger-D
#37 Carlo Colaiacovo-D
#38 Henrik Lundquist-G
#39 Lauri Tukonen-W
#40 Niklas Kronwall-D
#41 Keith Ballard-D
#42 Eric Fehr-W
#43 Timofei Shishkanov-W
#44 Andrew Ladd-W
#45 Mark Stuart-D
#46 Jiri Hudler-C
#47 Lukas Krajicek-D
#48 Jeff Woywitka-D
#49 Chris Higgins-C
#50 Derek Roy-C

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