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02-18-2012, 11:27 PM
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I apologize to Jet fans for this proposal.

I think people are underrating Clarkson and Tedenby a ton here, specifically FanHabtic but that's expected since he hates the Devils, but I agree that this is a quantity deal, not a quality deal.

Throwing in Foster made me laugh though.

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I'm comparing the value of the two players (and in kindness to Larsson offering similar value as Enstrom) to one another and asking you if you would deal Larsson for the return that you proposed in your proposal? Its simple really. If your answer is no, then why would Winnipeg deal away Enstrom for that return?
As I said before it was raw.

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WPG better add alot if Larsson is involved
Why? Enstrom is proven. Larsson is not proven but has high potential.

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02-18-2012, 11:29 PM
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Why? Enstrom is proven. Larsson is not proven but has high potential.
A trade that involves both would have to most likely address several needs for both teams.

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As I said before it was raw.
So from your reluctance to answer the question its obvious that your answer is "No ****ing way would i trade Larsson for the proposed return".

Why would Wpg trade their #1 dman for a return that you consider sub-standard for Larsson?

(or am i putting words in your mouth)

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02-18-2012, 11:30 PM
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A trade that involves both would have to most likely address several needs for both teams.
I'm not talking about trading them for one-another. I am comparing their value. What makes Larsson that much more valuable than Enstrom? Can anyone explain?

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02-18-2012, 11:31 PM
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WPG better add alot if Larsson is involved
Why would they add? What has Larsson done to prove he's worth more than Enstrom?

Neither team would do the deal.

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02-18-2012, 11:32 PM
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Why would they add? What has Larsson done to prove he's worth more than Enstrom?

Neither team would do the deal.
Would you trade Henrique + 1st for Enstrom?

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02-18-2012, 11:34 PM
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Would you trade Henrique + 1st for Enstrom?
Henrique is more valuable than Enstrom.

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02-18-2012, 11:36 PM
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Would you trade Henrique + 1st for Enstrom?
That's a tough question to be honest. Henrique is going to be a staple of our forward depth for a long team, and we can't really afford to trade firsts with the pending Kovy forfeiture.

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Henrique is more valuable than Enstrom.
No he's not.

Henrique at this point is a ~50 point potential rookie of the year. Enstrom is among the best D-men in the league.

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02-18-2012, 11:38 PM
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That's a tough question to be honest. Henrique is going to be a staple of our forward depth for a long team, and we can't really afford to trade firsts with the pending Kovy forfeiture.



No he's not.

Henrique at this point is a ~50 point potential rookie of the year. Enstrom is among the best D-men in the league.
Yes, yes he is. Especially if he continues his play.

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02-18-2012, 11:39 PM
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Would you trade Henrique + 1st for Enstrom?
Probably not, but this is nonsense:

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Henrique is more valuable than Enstrom.
No he isn't. Come on now.

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02-18-2012, 11:45 PM
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Would you trade Henrique + 1st for Enstrom?
This is at least in the ball park. The big question with Enstrom is he is a FA after next year, and will he resign with the Jets at a cap hit that allows for them to keep their young core. If not the Jets should load up on young talent and picks.

We really don't want to be in a Parise type situation this time next year.

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02-19-2012, 02:26 AM
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Better deal if you want a dman...

To Winnipeg:
David Clarkson
Mattias Tendenby

To NJ:
Ron Hainsey
7th Round Pick

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02-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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Henrique is more valuable than Enstrom.
This guy.

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02-19-2012, 02:51 AM
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Better deal if you want a dman...

To Winnipeg:
David Clarkson
Mattias Tendenby

To NJ:
Ron Hainsey
7th Round Pick
That's overpayment for Hainsey. The 7th round pick isn't even worth throwing in.

Why would we give up a player on pace for 30 goals + one of our top prospects for Hainsey when we're in discussions for Zidlicky at the expense of Kurtis Foster + draft pick?

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02-19-2012, 03:09 AM
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Henrique is more valuable than Enstrom.
Not even close.

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Better deal if you want a dman...

To Winnipeg:
David Clarkson
Mattias Tendenby

To NJ:
Ron Hainsey
7th Round Pick
NJ gets bent. Horrible deal for them.

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02-19-2012, 03:12 AM
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That's a really bad proposal.

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02-19-2012, 03:12 AM
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To NJ:
Tobias Enstrom

To Winnipeg:
Kurtis Foster - balances it out more, puck mover
2012 2nd rounder - fairly high pick
David Clarkson - gritty winger can fight and score, 21 goals this year
Mattias Tedenby - great skill, speed, hands but needs some time to develop



It is raw so don't kill me. I don't really know Winnipegs needs and what not.

Also, this wouldn't probably happen because both teams are in the playoff race. Thoughts and most importantly what would have to be done to make this work?
Remove Foster and add Zajac

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02-19-2012, 03:21 AM
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I think everyone else has it covered here, but this is just...bad.

Jets aren't looking to deal Enstrom. Plus the fact that it would take overpayment to acquire him. Jets need youth in the form of prospects and picks.

If you need some d-men you can have Oduya or Hainsey for (judging by the recent trades) a 2nd and something minor.

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02-19-2012, 07:37 AM
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I would never give up Larsson for Enstrom, and I have a tough time giving Clarkson up in this deal too.

I think we'd have to surrender a package with Tedenby+Merrill at its core.

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02-19-2012, 07:41 AM
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Would you trade Henrique + 1st for Enstrom?
Never. With a healthy Zajac, Elias and Henrique, the Devils finally have some semblance of center depth. Since its taken us so long to get here, and since it has cost us during the process, I think it's safe to say that our top-9 centers are as good as untouchable (unless, obviously, a trade that offers an upgrade is available... And Henrique for Enstrom doesn't do that)

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02-19-2012, 08:24 AM
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Better deal if you want a dman...

To Winnipeg:
David Clarkson
Mattias Tendenby

To NJ:
Ron Hainsey
7th Round Pick
This is about as bad as the OP, but in the other direction. The Devils get hosed here, and Lou Lamoriello does not get hosed.

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Remove Foster and add Zajac
Zajac is not expendable. The Devils have finally achieved good centre depth after several seasons of having a massive hole at second line centre, I would be very disappointed if they immediately threw that away.

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02-19-2012, 08:37 AM
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If Enstrom is going to the Devils, I would want a package built around Josefson coming back.

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If Enstrom is going to the Devils, I would want a package built around Josefson coming back.
That would probably work, depending on what else was included.

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