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02-19-2012, 08:33 AM
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Toronto - Columbus (Nash)

To
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To
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Nazem Kadri
Clarke MacArthur
1st round pick

Thoughts?

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If Toronto where to acquire Nash the OP has it right in what Columbus' asking price would be. That said I can't see Toronto acquiring Nash. Toronto needs a playmaking centre like Ryan Getzlaf not a goal scoring winger.

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2013 first and swap Kadri for... something else... and I'd be pretty happy.

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Rick Nash


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Nazem Kadri
Clarke MacArthur
1st round pick

Thoughts?
Nice work......that is what I was thinking....

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If Leafs give up all those assets, how will they get a #1 center? Leafs can't afford to trade that much anyways.

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If Leafs give up all those assets, how will they get a #1 center? Leafs can't afford to trade that much anyways.
Schenn has been non-existent this year.

Kadri is stuck in the minors and can't break inot Leafland

Nash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McArthur

2012 1st 10-20 range.

Why in the hell wouldn't the leafs do this?

Worry about the top line centre next year.

Get what player you can now!

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To
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Nazem Kadri
Clarke MacArthur
1st round pick

Thoughts?
If this was all it took...sign me up.

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The only way I take Nash is if Kessel goes the other way. Columbus gets out of his contract, Nash adds size up front for the Leafs. Columbus probably has to add a pick to get out of the contract. In the offseason a move is made by the Leafs to cut cap space, maybe Conolly is bought out under the talked about buyout window in the next session of bargaining.
Then the Leafs go after that #1 centre with size using their depth in the system and Schenn (plus Kadri or Colbourne or Bozak and a first). Getzlaff would be nice. Grabo resigns and Komisarek is moved to a bottom cap team. Lombardi stays or goes.

Lupul Getzlaff Nash
Kulemin Grabovski Macarthur
Lombardi/Kadri Colbourne/Bozak Armstrong
Crabb/Boyce Steckel Brrown
Rosehill

Gunnarson Phaneuf
Gardiner Franson
Liles Holzer
Aulie

Oh yeah we better hope |Reimer rebounds or we are screwed

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02-19-2012, 09:33 AM
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Schenn has been non-existent this year.

Kadri is stuck in the minors and can't break inot Leafland

Nash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McArthur

2012 1st 10-20 range.

Why in the hell wouldn't the leafs do this?
Worry about the top line centre next year.

Get what player you can now!
1. Schenn and Kadri are very young still have a ton of upside
2. Who would the Leafs have left to trade for a center next year?
3. If Kulemin gets back to what he is capable of, which he should, Leaf's top 6 wing depth is fine for now
4. Nash has a 7.8M cap hit, and at the moment is not worth his salary
5. Leafs include their last 2 first round picks, and give up their next first. How has trading first round picks in the past worked out for the Leafs?
6. May affect the possibility of resigning Grabovski


If Columbus was asking for that much, I guarantee Burke would not make that trade. I would like to trade for Nash too, but you can't trade the majority of your assets when you already have 2 top wingers.

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Value is provably there but does it work under the cap?

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How many times do Columbus fans have to reject Nash to Leafs proposals?

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If Nash, by some miracle, was traded to the Leafs, a salary dump would be going the other way. Either Connolly/Lombardi/Komisarek. No way we take that much salary without shedding some excess salary first.

I'm not a fan of this deal. Nash does have more to his game than Mac, but Clarke has been producing similar offensive totals and makes significantly less. I'd take out Kadri and switch him with a salary dump.

That gives CLB a promising young defenceman, a player that replaces Nash's offence (for now), and a 1st round pick in a deep draft. Maybe add a goalie prospect in there like Scrivens/Rynnas. And the salary dump balances the numbers out.

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How many times do Columbus fans have to reject Nash to Leafs proposals?
Good thing Columbus fans aren't the ones who will accept or reject

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Good thing Columbus fans aren't the ones who will accept or reject
No, but it's a good thing that CBJ management would never accept that package for Nash. That might get you Carter but not even close to Nash.

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Sadly, for us in Leaf Land, if a deal IS reached, it's probably going to look more like:

To TOR: Nash
To CBJ: Kulemin + Colborne + Schenn + 1st ('12) + 2nd ('13)

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02-19-2012, 11:55 AM
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I'm not a fan of this deal. Nash does have more to his game than Mac, but Clarke has been producing similar offensive totals and makes significantly less. I'd take out Kadri and switch him with a salary dump.
The only way MacArthur can even be mentioned in the same sentence as Nash is by comparing his career high with Nash's career low. Nash has averaged 70 points and 35 goals over the past 4 seasons. He is also in the NHL top 5 for goals since the lockout. Sorry but Toronto does not have the assets the CBJ are looking for. Nash does not have to be traded and will not be moved for scraps. If the CBJ does not get the package they are looking for then he won't be moved.

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02-19-2012, 11:58 AM
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To
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Nazem Kadri
Clarke MacArthur
1st round pick

Thoughts?
Seems like thats what it would take...

Although I have read that CBJ wants Gardiner..

Deal could probably also look like

Gardiner
Colborne
Kulemin
1st Round Pick

Or a combination of the 2 deals (similiar)

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Nyr-clb

To NYR:
- LW Rick Nash
- D Fedor Tyutin

To CLB:
- C Brandon Dubinsky
- D Marc Staal

The Rangers nab the most prized piece available this trade deadline. Nash bolsters their forward group, and should instantly spark their anaemic PP. Losing Staal hurts, but the Rangers bring back Tyutin who plays a similar style to Staal.

Columbus starts the re-build with a #1 D and a top 6 forward.

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The only way MacArthur can even be mentioned in the same sentence as Nash is by comparing his career high with Nash's career low. Nash has averaged 70 points and 35 goals over the past 4 seasons. He is also in the NHL top 5 for goals since the lockout. Sorry but Toronto does not have the assets the CBJ are looking for. Nash does not have to be traded and will not be moved for scraps. If the CBJ does not get the package they are looking for then he won't be moved.
But in reality, Nash hasn't hit 70 points more than once in his career. MacArthur has produced similar offence last year, and this year as well. Not worth it for the extra cap hit and term that Nash has on his contract.

I'd happily take the upgrade because Nash brings other things to his game and could turn around his production with other players, but the Leafs shouldn't sell the farm for another winger would be on our second line behind Kessel on the depth chart.


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No, but it's a good thing that CBJ management would never accept that package for Nash. That might get you Carter but not even close to Nash.
Really? MIGHT get us Carter? Schenn + Kadri + MacArthur + 1st is more than double of what you paid to acquire him

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Given the way Burke deals, I think he would want some more assets back... Don't think he would do a 4 for 1 deal, and IMO this is a slight overpayment for Nash.

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I don't see that as an upgrade for the Rangers at all. I also don't see Nash helping the power play.

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But in reality, Nash hasn't hit 70 points more than once in his career. MacArthur is produced similar offence last year, and this year as well. Not worth it for the extra cap hit and term that Nash has on his contract.

I'd happily take the upgrade because Nash brings other things to his game and could turn around his production with other players, but the Leafs shouldn't sell the farm for another winger would be on our second line behind Kessel on the depth chart.
My thoughts exactly. I don't mind Schenn, Kulemin, Mac and our 1st included but as soon as we hit on Colborne, Kadri and Gardiner I turn away.

Word is they want Couturier and Schenn for Nash... too much IMO. Philly is much better off keeping these guys over the long run.

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