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View Poll Results: Would you do the trade?
Do the deal 12 24.00%
Not interested 22 44.00%
Hold out for more 16 32.00%
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03-15-2012, 10:29 AM
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lol, How is Normand Flynn's trade proposal any different from the ones of HF posters on the free agents/trade rumour board?
This is fair value IMO, it just makes no sense for Pittsburgh to trade away a core piece from a perennial contender.

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Or we can draft a top prospect and keep plekanec?

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03-15-2012, 10:32 AM
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Or we can draft a top prospect and keep plekanec?
What is this crazy talk?

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03-15-2012, 10:38 AM
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We should trade for Crosby while his value is low. Only has 12 points this season.

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Penguins aren't stupid, they aren't going to trade Staal.

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03-15-2012, 10:39 AM
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You people who keep posting Tony Marinara acrticles, do you work for team 990 or something?

this guy is not legit why is his crap all over the forum? it's as bad as eklund who is no longer allowed.

Can a mod put up a poll to bar Marinaro articles as thread topics?

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03-15-2012, 10:43 AM
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Normand Flynn is saying on TSN 990 right now that Montreal should trade Tomas Plekanec + 1st round draft pick in 2012 to Pittsburgh for Jordan Staal, he say's Jordan Staal would make this team better overnight and can be a very good 1st or second line centre.

So...

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Staal - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Leblanc
Geoffrion - White - Staubitz

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Kaberle - Weber

Price
Budaj


Personally, I would not DO IT because I want the top 3 to 5 pick this year and Plekanec is better than this season.

DISCUSS!!!
Trading our first round pick is a big no no at this point. Unless you want to become the maple leafs.

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03-15-2012, 10:45 AM
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How in the world are people saying trading our top pick and Pleky for Staal is a good thing?

We still don't have a number 1 center and it would be a horrible move to trade a lottery pick.

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03-15-2012, 10:49 AM
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Wasn't Staal the number 1 center for the Pens down the stretch last year? How did he perform? I see he had 3 points in 7 playoff games.

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03-15-2012, 10:55 AM
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UFA in one year. Pass

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03-15-2012, 10:56 AM
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You people who keep posting Tony Marinara acrticles, do you work for team 990 or something?

this guy is not legit why is his crap all over the forum? it's as bad as eklund who is no longer allowed.

Can a mod put up a poll to bar Marinaro articles as thread topics?
I second that motion...

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03-15-2012, 10:58 AM
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I never listen to this radio show.

His proposal make less sense than the proposals from Habs Hotel on the main forum.

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03-15-2012, 11:01 AM
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Why are you guys acting like Pens wouldn't do this deal? a pending UFA (next year) for a great 2nd line C with a good cap hit and a possible top 5 pick? And Pittsburgh passes?

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03-15-2012, 11:01 AM
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Why does everyone in the media want to trade the Habs 2012 1st round pick away? Christ sakes, enough already. Habs should KEEP Plekanec and KEEP their 1st round pick.

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I never listen to this radio show.

His proposal make less sense than the proposals from Habs Hotel on the main forum.
It's Flynn, not Marinaro

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03-15-2012, 11:02 AM
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I'd rather have Plekanec + Galchenyuk

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03-15-2012, 11:14 AM
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I second that motion...
Not a rumour, you know that don't you? Why dont you complain about it.
just a thread about a suggested trade proposal, thats all.
Pittsburgh would never swap Staal for Pleks, definate downgrade for them.
I would never want the Habs to trade a top 3 after waiting so long to have that opportunity. i am ok with trading Pleks for a top prospect though.

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How is a Flynn opinion Threadworthy?

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03-15-2012, 11:24 AM
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This is one of those rare proposals that makes no sense for either club. Congrats ot Marionaro for coming up with this.

Why do the Pens deal Staal? Seriously, they're in cup contention and he's younger and bigger than Pleks is. They sure as hell don't need help scoring goals so I don't see how that's an upgrade. The 1st would definitely interest them but not at the expense of weakening themselve during a cup run. I don't see why they'd do this.

As for us... Why in the world do you give up Pleks and a 1st for Staal? Staal is an upgrade but not by much. He's never been used in a primary offensive role and it makes absolutely no sense for us to deal away what could be potentially our highest pick in over 30 years.

The team that should be trying to build for the future shouldn't deal away their top pick and the team that's trying to win it now shouldn't weaken itself to get stronger for the future.

This trade makes no sense at all.

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03-15-2012, 11:28 AM
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WestIslander, why do you keep making these radio threads as though Marinaro's word is the word of God?

This is nothing but a trade proposal, it's not a rumor and it's not even speculation, it's just some guy's opinion on the radio.

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03-15-2012, 11:28 AM
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Makes no sense from the Pittsburgh side but also no sense from the Habs side.
Staal has never scored 50pts, despite playing versus much, much weaker opposition.
This is the first year he actually is scoring on a higher pace, but even then, it's still less than what Plekanec produced. To be fair, his wingers have never been amazing.
He's also been injured quite a bit these past two seasons. He's only 23 however, and if he wants to remain in Pittsburgh, which I'm sure he does, I don't see why they would move him.

Plekanec + 2-3rd rounder, then okay. But Plek+1st??? No freaking way.

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03-15-2012, 11:30 AM
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Staal is only 23, and it's quite possible that he'll evolve into a very (offensively) productive top-6 player if put in that role...

at this point he's a guy that has never topped 50pts or 30 goals, even if it's quite likely he'll develop into a guy who puts up 30+ g & 65+pts in his prime. He's very good defensively, strong character traits, big & competes hard...

would love to have in on the habs.


BUT difference btw Staal - Plekanec is nowhere near a top-5/10 first round draft pick...

Pleks & a 2nd, and I might consider it, but even then I'd have reservations. Pulling the trigger more as a result of the better "fit" in the sense of complementing what we have in DD/Eller than anything else.

Pleks is woefully underrated by many I think. He's not having a great season, and part of it does fall on his own shoulders, but with the revolving door of sub-par linemates we've been feeding him, combined with the other messes behind the bench, hard to be too critical.

He'll bounce back next year, put up ~70pts, the 1st will land us a stud prospect, and we'll thank our lucky stars Marinaro isn't running the show

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03-15-2012, 11:36 AM
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i Lol'd at all the ones saying why would pittsburgh do that,MTL is the team saying no if i was shero i would take that deal and run laughing

and for the record Jordan Staal is NOT a # 1 center

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03-15-2012, 11:39 AM
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Why is this a thread?

Since I know some of you have trouble comprehending written english,
MARINARO DID NOT PROPOSE THIS
MARINARO DID NOT WANT THIS

thank you.

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03-15-2012, 11:56 AM
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I wouldn't make that trade at all. A top 3 pick alone whould be worth J. Staal who's a 3rd liner on his team. Yes, he plays behinf Crosby and Mailkin, but he's never proven he can be a #1 on a reular basis. To throw in a proven #2 in Plex in addition to a top 3 pick, is way over payment imo. If it was for a top #1 centre in the league, then I'd seriously consider it but I don't think J. Staal has shown he is that.

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03-15-2012, 12:07 PM
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Normand Flynn always gives the worst advice. Every time I listen to him on Tony's show I'm shaking my head and yelling at the radio. I don't even know why Tony gives him airtime. I would never ever trade that 1st rounder for Staal not even if Pleks wasn't involved in the deal. Like most have pointed out, Staal is a 3rd line C (given he's a 3rd liner on the team with the 2 best C in the league but still) and a UFA next yr. The 1st rounder could land us a big centre that is better, younger and much cheaper than Staal.

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