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Nikolai Kulimin's next contract

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02-19-2012, 04:53 PM
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Nikolai Kulimin's next contract

Since right now Nikolai Kulimen only has a total of 6 goals this season which is way off his pace of 30 goals he had last season, being an RFA this summer how does this impact his next contract with the Leafs?

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2 years, 6 million. He needs to prove the last season wasn't a fluke.

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02-19-2012, 05:04 PM
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2 years, 6 million. He needs to prove the last season wasn't a fluke.
Prove what? He's getting paid based on your contract suggestion.

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02-19-2012, 05:52 PM
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Prove what? He's getting paid based on your contract suggestion.
He`d probably get 4 - 4.5 per season if he had another 30 goal year.

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How much value does he have to the Leafs? A team like Detroit or L.A. might offer a decent return. He's no Selanne.

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Hopefully Burke gets him on a steal. IMO hell have a huge year next year. 3 for 5 years would be reasonable and have the potential to pay off big time

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02-19-2012, 06:05 PM
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Kulemins value has plummeted. worg abput 2 mil a year. he wont sign long term if hes smart. but its certainly looking more and more like last season was a fluke.

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2 years, 6 million. He needs to prove the last season wasn't a fluke.
no way one year at 2.5 maybe 3 no more see if hes a fluke two years in to much if he cant produce

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He should sign a 1 year contract, do his best to have a big year coming off this poor year and cash in on UFA.

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2 years, 6 million. He needs to prove the last season wasn't a fluke.
Exactly what I came to post.

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no way one year at 2.5 maybe 3 no more see if hes a fluke two years in to much if he cant produce
But if he has a 30 goal season, hed be making a lot more the following year, roll the dice with the extra year might pay off big time. Worst case is he's very good defensively with some offence so hed still be helping

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There's no way he'll sign anything more than a two year contract.

My guess is a one or two year contract for $2.5 MM per/year.

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He should sign a 1 year contract, do his best to have a big year coming off this poor year and cash in on UFA.
Pretty sure a 1 year contract will keep him as an RFA.

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12 mill for 4 years.

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How much are 10 goal scorers going for these days?

And he may not even get 10 despite playing top 6 minutes.

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He's not just a "10 goal guy" the guy has good upside, he plays the game the right... his defensive awareness and playmaking and board work is fantastic. 30 goals might have been a fluke but he's a very good player for our top 9. He should get what Vlateri Filpulla, very similar player although Filpulla is having a better season.

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His qualifying offer of 1 year, $2.35m.

There's really no need for negotiation beyond that. Burke wont want to pay for extra years when there's a possibility that last year was a fluke. Kulemin won't want to give away potential earning power when there's a possibility that this year was a fluke.

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Drew Stafford says 4 years 16 million luckily for you guys his contract wasn't up after last season or you may have gotten stuck with a bad contract

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I see a 1 year, 2.5 mil contract offer. Avoids arbitration settlements as the money is fair, and Burke can see who the real Kulemin is before giving in to a long term contract.

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I'm willing to cut him some slack because damn he lost his parents and a plane load of friends. He's human and probably hasn't fully grieved properly yet.

He's a 200 ft player who likes physicality, banging and crashing with a great offensive upside. 30 won't be a fluke but years like this probably will be.

3 yrs @ 2.75 and then he can work for his dinner down the line.

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1 or 2 yrs probably in the 2.5mil range. If it was last year, it would've been like 4mil.

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How much are 10 goal scorers going for these days?

And he may not even get 10 despite playing top 6 minutes.
Gomez scores less than 10 a year so Kulemin is worth at least 8 mil/per. In all seriousness, it's pretty embarrassing how fans of opposing teams under-value this kid. He's been through a lot in the last little while. When that Russian plane went down he lost a lot of friends including his mentor. It's gonna be great next year when the guy bounces back and pots 30 again. Hey though, this is HF, where players in their mid-20's are written off in a matter of 60 games.

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But if he has a 30 goal season, hed be making a lot more the following year, roll the dice with the extra year might pay off big time. Worst case is he's very good defensively with some offence so hed still be helping
People seem to be arguing that he could do the 30 goal thing again. How about the fact that he scored more than 16 goals once and then this season he's on pace to have his worst season goals wise.

I could see Burke trying to re-sign him to the same cap hit as he currently has for another year or two.

He's not some 20 goal scorer that scored 30 once, he's a 15-16 goal scorer that had 30 goals once and is now having a bad season, he hasn't proven he could do it on a consistent enough basis to earn that "benefit of the doubt" that he would/could regain that 30 goal form he had last year.

Learn from the Grabovski contract, in Mikhail's case, he already proved he was a 45-55+ player and he's still just a 2.9m cap hit. How is someone who has proven less, going to demand more while having a down year?

Age wise, please...one is an 86 born, the other an 84 birth year. The "ceiling" isn't so astronomical to not be able to do the comparison.

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Gomez scores less than 10 a year so Kulemin is worth at least 8 mil/per. In all seriousness, it's pretty embarrassing how fans of opposing teams under-value this kid. He's been through a lot in the last little while. When that Russian plane went down he lost a lot of friends including his mentor. It's gonna be great next year when the guy bounces back and pots 30 again. Hey though, this is HF, where players in their mid-20's are written off in a matter of 60 games.
And people could say you are making excuses for him as well. That tragic accident affected a lot of Russian players not to mention others that knew some of the guys and played together and to the hockey community as a whole.



What is this about his parents?

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02-20-2012, 04:05 AM
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The ignorance.. it burns. Kulie starts his NHL career w/ the leafs @ 22y/o, plays 2 decent seasons statistically (Good seasons for those who watch consistently, appreciate defensive play, board work and overall consistency), turns 25 and offensively explodes (which almost seemed over due, when considering the kids work ethic and strong shot). Than he loses a bunch of homies in a plane crash, hits a depression, and another winger on the team decides to step it up and take the spotlight. Than Nikolai slumps. When he gets his confidence back - starts shooting on 2on1s again, driving the net like a crazy bull, than we will see 60pts again.

OFC when negotiations come around Burke isnt going to as sympathic as me or other leafs fans and toss him a fat contract out of pity.. I think a bunch of guys already said it, 1 or 2 yr deal, than he will pay for his dinner. I see them both agreeing to 2 years.

Even though hes 25 and should be at his prime according to some people... hes only in his 4th season, and a trajic one at that.

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