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02-20-2012, 05:21 PM
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1st round pick

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Nash
I'd probably begrudgingly do it. I'd try to talk them down from Miller to Thomas or someone else for Erixon.

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That's way to much

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02-20-2012, 05:22 PM
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According to Brooks,that is what Columbus wants from the Rangers.



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I'm starting to cross my fingers for the same sense of relief I had when the trade deadline passed last season and Richards was still a Dallas Star.

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This team is 11th in the league with 2.77 goals per game. More scoring would obviously be nice, but I wouldn't categorize it as needed. And that's 11th place with an absolute abortion of a PP% (14.1% or 27th in the league).

For frame of reference, Boston was 5th in the league in scoring last year with 2.98 goals per game when they won the cup.

Boston also had a 2.3 goals against average per game last season. This year, the Rangers' goals against average is 1.96.

Obviously the playoffs is a different story, but I'd characterize our problems as the PP, and not scoring abstractly.
Exactly. And player acquisitions don't help the powerplay.

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no way id move the top prospects of Miller or Kreider..id rather move both Anisimov and Dubinsky and 1st for Nash...

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I'm starting to cross my fingers for the same sense of relief I had when the trade deadline passed last season and Richards was still a Dallas Star.



Exactly. And player acquisitions don't help the powerplay.
Player acquisitions could help the PP, but I wouldn't sell our problem as scoring in general. We are a very good even strength scoring team. The PP is simply an albatross.

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Columbus doesn't give a **** about how the Rangers would go about replacing McD's or Del Zotto's minutes. That's not their problem. They are trying to find the best possible package so they are going to ask the world for Nash in hopes that some GM is going to overpay or make a mistake, like Gainey did when he traded for Gomez. Hopefully Sather isn't that stupid.
this... really. i wish we could start singing Higher and Higher and make the evil marshmallow man - no NASHmallow man - go away.

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02-20-2012, 05:24 PM
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After the way we got Erixon I don't see how he'll be shipped. McI has a better chance of going.

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Dubinsky
Erixon
Miller
1st round pick

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Nash
Done.

Only thing that makes me pause is that I really like Miller. Maybe try and replace him with Thomas and a 2nd -- but I doubt it.

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02-20-2012, 05:25 PM
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Dubinsky is nothing special. He's a player with one 50+ point season under his belt.

On an elite hockey team, Dubinsky isn't going to be a main offensive contributor. And if he is a main offensive contributor, he's nothing more than a 50-55 point player.

He's great to have as a third liner--but not at $4.2M a year.

I don't want to trade Dubinsky because he's having an off year. I want to trade him because he's more than likely never going to justify his salary on this team, IMO.
We will have to agree to disagree, because I think even if dubinsky only ever scores 40 points a season for the rest of his contract and continues to do everything else he does, he's already justified his salary. For his production alone, he's slightly overpaid. All things considered? He's right where he should be. And next year, he probably bounces back and scores 50-55 points, maybe even more.

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Here's what I know about Flyers/Nash: CBJ is trying to find suitors. Flyers will always listen but nothing remotely serious discussed.
Hopefully this is correct, and Howson is getting offers significantly less than what he's looking for. I have no problem being the highest lowball offer.

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Miller
1st round pick

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Nash
Swap Thomas/St. Croix/MZA in for Miller and draw up the paperwork.

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A big negative on Nash is his contract and Sather knows that, that will without a doubt decrease the package

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LeBrun says a lot of things..LeBrun wondered how the Rangers could make the deal Nash with their cap situation, and, that was with Dubinsky in the deal. Now he has Sather making a deal for Nash with no cap considerations. I take what LeBrun has to say with a huge grain of salt. The most telling I saw in what LeBrun had to say was his pronouncement that he thinks Sather will try to overwhelm Columbus with prospects. Enough said.

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no way id move the top prospects of Miller or Kreider..id rather move both Anisimov and Dubinsky and 1st for Nash...
This is terribly flawed thinking, you'd rather move two proven NHLers than one top prospect? Yikes.

Dubinsky, Erixon, Miller , 1st is exactly the deal I had in mind.

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Erixon
Miller
1st round pick

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Nash
Losing Erixon, Miller, and a 1st wouldn't even put a dent in the NYR.

Still leaves us with Kreider, Thomas, McIlrath, St. Croix in the tube while having a cup caliber team for the next 6 years.

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no way id move the top prospects of Miller or Kreider..id rather move both Anisimov and Dubinsky and 1st for Nash...
IMO, trading both Anisimov and Dubinsky for Nash at this point in the season makes the team worse heading into the playoffs.

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Dubinsky
Erixon
Miller
1st round pick

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Nash
That's a very fair deal.

Quite frankly I don't care who they deal, as long as it's not Kreider or any of the young Rangers.

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There is no way that CBJ would take Erixon as a major part of the trade. He basically sulked his way out of CGY to come to the Rangers, they wouldn't take that risk that he packs it up and goes to Europe, especially after they got burnt by Filatov and now he'd be a big part of the return for their franchise player.

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I don't see how this team can afford Gaborik, Richards, Nash and re-sign Del Zotto, McDonagh, Stepan, and Anisimov.

In addition to the assets involved in a trade with Columbus, the team is going to likely lose someone to an offer sheet within the next two seasons.
Sather will probably look to move Gaborik before his contract is up in 2014 if Nash is here. The Rangers will get a bundle for him.

The Flyers moved Umberger to Columbus for a #1 pick when they had cap issues.

You could see Anisimov moved for a top pick/young player like Philly did with Umberger.

DZ,McDonagh and Stepan are the must keeps for the group IIs.

Sauer will be a group II at the end of his deal. He could be moved depending upon his health.

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When is it going to be over? I can't take it anymore.

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That's a very fair deal.

Quite frankly I don't care who they deal, as long as it's not Kreider or any of the young Rangers.
You have to remember the contract, that lowers Nash value

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There is no way that CBJ would take Erixon as a major part of the trade. He basically sulked his way out of CGY to come to the Rangers, they wouldn't take that risk that he packs it up and goes to Europe, especially after they got burnt by Filatov and now he'd be a big part of the return for their franchise player.
A few things.

Erixon is under contract now and he wasn't in June. He didn't sulk his way out. He had leverage and he used it.
Filatov bolted when there was no agreement between the KHL and NHL.
I would doubt that Erixon would want to go to the KHL and I'm sure that no SEL team is offering a contract to a player currently under an NHL contract.

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There is no way that CBJ would take Erixon as a major part of the trade. He basically sulked his way out of CGY to come to the Rangers, they wouldn't take that risk that he packs it up and goes to Europe, especially after they got burnt by Filatov and now he'd be a big part of the return for their franchise player.
Erixon didn't want to play for CGY cause he felt NHL ready and didn't think they had a spot for him. He didn't control where he went he just lucked out that the Rangers wanted him. He is NHL ready or very close so going to a place where he gets a shot probably wouldn't hurt his feelings, he's sitting in Connecticut now wondering if he'll ever crack the Rangers top four andhonestly it's unlikely.

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Dubinsky
Erixon
Miller
1st round pick

for

Nash
I want Nash, have been advocating a deal for him.

I think that adding Miller is a mistake.

Dubinsky
Erixon
Thomas
1st

for

Nash and the Columbus 2nd rounder in 2013

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Damn u Dreger!

I am ok with Dubinsky, Thomas, McIlrath, Zuccarello, Wolski ,1st rounder
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Nash and Pahlsson

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Lots of time for things to change, but sources say the Flyers are out on Nash at the current asking price. Still think NYR is frontrunner.

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