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02-22-2012, 10:06 PM
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Giving up Nabby to the team that we're chasing for that final playoff spot. That'll go over well with the optimistic fans around here.

Oh please. If trading a guy who never wanted to be here from a team that's light years from a playoff team is going to crush anyone, then those people aren't optimistic, they're in denial.

I'll give anyone credit for being an optimist after over a decade with Wang, but if trading Nabokov sends you over the edge after all we've had to endure then your perspective is off kilter.

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How will people react when it's revealed Garth held Nabby out of the lineup during these crucial last few games to protect him from getting injured before being shipped out at the deadline?

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02-22-2012, 10:28 PM
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How will people react when it's revealed Garth held Nabby out of the lineup during these crucial last few games to protect him from getting injured before being shipped out at the deadline?
They will either say:

That was a smart move by a realist who can't deny the truth.

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Wah wah moan whimper puke.

If the team can't win a game without the man, then they don't deserve to make the playoffs on principle alone.

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02-22-2012, 10:46 PM
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I hope they resign him. Would be nice to get such a quality goalie to help Poulin along over the next year or two...while Nabby gives us a chance to win just about every night.

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02-22-2012, 11:16 PM
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Leafs chasing Nabby according to Bobby Mac on TSN tonight...
What could we get back in a trade from the Leafs?

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02-23-2012, 05:35 AM
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What could we get back in a trade from the Leafs?
maybe Franson ?

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02-23-2012, 07:26 AM
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Doesn't the whole "contract negotiations started" thing benefit both the Isles and Nabokov? And maybe it's legit, who knows. The Isles try to sign Nabby, but if they can't get a deal done they're compelled to get a return for him. Maybe it makes Nabby seem less like a crybaby who didn't want to play for the Isles. It helps Snow in trade talks, and it's cover for trading your #1 goalie in the middle of a "playoff push".

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02-23-2012, 07:48 AM
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I'm thinking two year deal and a under the table handshake to get moved to a contender next year's deadline.

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maybe Franson ?
I doubt the Leafs move Franson, they won't want to downgrade their starting d.

I think a deal involving Aulie and a pick(s) would make more sense.

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02-23-2012, 08:34 AM
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I'm thinking two year deal and a under the table handshake to get moved to a contender next year's deadline.
Why next year? That doesn't make sense. He would just go into Free Agency and go wherever he wants.

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Why next year? That doesn't make sense. He would just go into Free Agency and go wherever he wants.
Have him around for the majority of the 12-13 season, then trade him.

Ya know, like the rumors claim, Snow wants him to help mentor Poulin/Nillson.

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02-23-2012, 09:52 AM
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Nabokov must have rejected the initial offer by Snow and has either asked for more money/term or is simply waiting for a list of teams interested in his services.

You have to think that Nabokov will be willing to go to any team if only to continue to showcase his talents for a new contract...

For Garth, its about waiting till the last possible moment if the offers aren't as yet sufficiently enticing...

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02-23-2012, 09:58 AM
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Have him around for the majority of the 12-13 season, then trade him.

Ya know, like the rumors claim, Snow wants him to help mentor Poulin/Nillson.
I'd venture to guess that doing Garth Snow is not atop Nabokov's priority list. He would just enter free agency,maximize his dollar, and go to a team that he wants and wants him. Your idea makes sense in Islander theory, but not in reality.

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02-23-2012, 10:03 AM
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I'm thinking two year deal and a under the table handshake to get moved to a contender next year's deadline.
Who is to say a Contender will need a Goalie next season ?

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02-23-2012, 10:40 AM
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According to Dreger they are still talking contract.

My guess is if it isn't done this weekend, and the Isles don't magically win both games, he gets moved.

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/...21707822497792

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According to Dreger they are still talking contract.

My guess is if it isn't done this weekend, and the Isles don't magically win both games, he gets moved.

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/...21707822497792
Great news!

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I'd venture to guess that doing Garth Snow is not atop Nabokov's priority list. He would just enter free agency,maximize his dollar, and go to a team that he wants and wants him. Your idea makes sense in Islander theory, but not in reality.
I would hope not. That could create a very weird player/GM dynamic and could cause jealousy issues with other players on the team!

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They will either say:

That was a smart move by a realist who can't deny the truth.

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Wah wah moan whimper puke.

If the team can't win a game without the man, then they don't deserve to make the playoffs on principle alone.
That's erroneous. Lots of teams won't win as often if their clear-cut number 1 is out of the lineup. Goaltending and defense win games. Its a cliche, but its 100pct true. Look across the river. Rags offense isn't anything special, but they have a Vezina finalist in net and a solid d-corps. I mean PAP has more assists than Richards has points.

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02-23-2012, 02:40 PM
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Latest from Dreger, per team1200 radio interview in Ottawa: spoke with Snow today and was told they're still trying to sign Nabby...talked to Meehan and Nabby would waive his NTC to go to Toronto...

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02-23-2012, 03:27 PM
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That's erroneous. Lots of teams won't win as often if their clear-cut number 1 is out of the lineup. Goaltending and defense win games. Its a cliche, but its 100pct true. Look across the river. Rags offense isn't anything special, but they have a Vezina finalist in net and a solid d-corps. I mean PAP has more assists than Richards has points.
You actually make my point for me. Goaltending AND defense win games. We have no defense so Nabby can only win so many games on his own. Keeping him here for this season makes zero sense unless you improve the defense.

It is what it is.

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You actually make my point for me. Goaltending AND defense win games. We have no defense so Nabby can only win so many games on his own. Keeping him here for this season makes zero sense unless you improve the defense.

It is what it is.
Yeah I totally agree keeping good players makes zero sense. I mean, who wants to win games anyways, right?

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02-23-2012, 03:47 PM
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Latest from Dreger, per team1200 radio interview in Ottawa: spoke with Snow today and was told they're still trying to sign Nabby...talked to Meehan and Nabby would waive his NTC to go to Toronto...
To me, this means he will leave,
otherwise he could make use of his NTC if he would like to stay here.

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To me, this means he will leave,
otherwise he could make use of his NTC if he would like to stay here.
Not necessarily, just means that Meehan knows that his client will waive his NTC, if a trade was brokered between NYI/TOR.

Now, should Isles be trading with TOR when, technically, they are within striking range of the 8th playoff seat that their potential competitor is occupying? That's a poor move whether you believe NYI can make the playoffs or not. You are telling your team you are removing one of your best players and building up the team you are chasing. Smart, real smart.

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Latest from Dreger, per team1200 radio interview in Ottawa: spoke with Snow today and was told they're still trying to sign Nabby...talked to Meehan and Nabby would waive his NTC to go to Toronto...
That price REALLY needs to go up if he's trading Nabokov in-conference. I'd prefer the synchronized Russian Roulette much more so than letting Burke **** picks our way again. It's "bodies or bust."

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Yeah I totally agree keeping good players makes zero sense. I mean, who wants to win games anyways, right?
When you know you are done for the season, and we are done for the season, you build for the future. We aren't kicking out a good goaltender as he has no intention of staying here to begin with. So miss the playoffs and lose the goaltender for nothing and get the #8 pick, or miss the playoffs, get something sweet for Nabster, and get the #3 pick.

That deal makes itself.

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