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Jack Johnson to TML

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02-19-2012, 10:14 PM
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Jack Johnson to TML

What would it take to get Johnson to the Leafs? Only things that need to happen if a deal were to happen is a defenseman or 2 would have to dealt back to LA. My proposal is:


To Toronto
Jack Johnson
Dustin Penner


To Los Angeles
Carl Gunnarsson
Clarke MacArthur
Juraj Mikus
2nd round pick
5th round pick


LA upgrades wingers, gets a young-ish up and coming solid top 4 defenseman in Gunnarsson and picks and a D prospect to help even things out.

Leafs get a solid TWD to pair top pairing with Dion. Penner can play 3rd line in a checking role especially if the Leafs do get Nash.

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02-19-2012, 10:20 PM
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McArthur isn't going to provide enough offense for the Kings to consider moving Johnson. Plus, if they moved Johnson, they'd replace him with Voynov so they're not going to be interested in Gunnarsson and filler.

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02-19-2012, 10:26 PM
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Ok that makes sense but how long do you expect to ride on the services of guys like Scuderi, Mitchell, etc..? Just a question

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02-19-2012, 10:33 PM
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i don't see l.a doing this one. they don't need quantity.

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WHY?!?!?!?!?

Toronto already has to many D

just for fun, no order

Phaneuf-Schenn
Liles-Komi
Franson-Gunnarson
Gardiner-Blacker

Percy just drafted also.

I'm probably forgetting a few.

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02-19-2012, 10:33 PM
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Johnson is not what the Leafs need, especially at the cost of our $1.3m top pairing, all-situation defenceman.

Realistically... when you look at the cap implications.. the Kings couldn't get Gunnarsson for Johnson straight up. The rest of the deal? an absolute joke. Penner's probably worth a 3rd, and I highly doubt Brian Burke will be the guy to offer that because of their history.

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02-19-2012, 10:35 PM
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WHY?!?!?!?!?

Toronto already has to many D

just for fun, no order

Phaneuf-Schenn
Liles-Komi
Franson-Gunnarson
Gardiner-Blacker

Percy just drafted also.

I'm probably forgetting a few.
This proposal was based off the idea that Schenn would be gone if Nash deal was completed and we'd be parting with 1 or 2 D for Johnson.

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Well Scuderi is signed through next season. Mitchell is a UFA after this season. They haven't reported much on whether or not they're interested in re-signing him.

Defense just isn't an area where the Kings are likely to be interested in too many people. They've got Voynov in the AHL but he's looked good for the most part at the NHL level in the games he's played this year. Martinez or Drewiske aren't horrible options as a 6th defenseman. Plus they still have quite a few prospects like Hickey, Forbort, Muzzin, and Deslauriers in the system.

I didn't mean to imply they wouldn't be interested in MacArthur totally, but not at the cost of Johnson.

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This proposal was based off the idea that Schenn would be gone if Nash deal was completed and we'd be parting with 1 or 2 D for Johnson.
how about worrying about the nash deal first.

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lol at Dustin Penner playing on a checking line.

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lol at Dustin Penner playing on a checking line.
Who is his 5 goals going to replace?

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Grab a goalie asap.

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We can close the thread here.

Johnson will just go for Kessel because he would be the only intersting part the Leafs have.

Just for the record of future proposals...........

The Kings just need a goal scoring winger !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing else

And no everything under 30 + goals is not considered a goal scoring winger

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Can't see this happening, considering Jack Johnson and Phil Kessel do not like eachother.

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We can close the thread here.


Johnson will just go for Kessel because he would be the only intersting part the Leafs have.

Just for the record of future proposals...........

The Kings just need a goal scoring winger !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing else

And no everything under 30 + goals is not considered a goal scoring winger

...So none of your players are scoring wingers then? Because none of them are even close to 30 goals yet.

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Sure, give the Leafs another offensive defenseman.

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...So none of your players are scoring wingers then? Because none of them are even close to 30 goals yet.
I would have to say the answer to that is yes and that is the problem in LA.

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...So none of your players are scoring wingers then? Because none of them are even close to 30 goals yet.
none of them except for maybe a healthy gagne.

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Johnson is not what the Leafs need, especially at the cost of our $1.3m top pairing, all-situation defenceman.

Realistically... when you look at the cap implications.. the Kings couldn't get Gunnarsson for Johnson straight up. The rest of the deal? an absolute joke. Penner's probably worth a 3rd, and I highly doubt Brian Burke will be the guy to offer that because of their history.
PLEASE tell me you're joking

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Johnson is not what the Leafs need, especially at the cost of our $1.3m top pairing, all-situation defenceman.

Realistically... when you look at the cap implications.. the Kings couldn't get Gunnarsson for Johnson straight up. The rest of the deal? an absolute joke. Penner's probably worth a 3rd, and I highly doubt Brian Burke will be the guy to offer that because of their history.
Your lack of hockey IQ makes me want to cry. Seriously.

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Johnson is not what the Leafs need, especially at the cost of our $1.3m top pairing, all-situation defenceman.

Realistically... when you look at the cap implications.. the Kings couldn't get Gunnarsson for Johnson straight up. The rest of the deal? an absolute joke. Penner's probably worth a 3rd, and I highly doubt Brian Burke will be the guy to offer that because of their history.


Let me guess. You wouldn't trade Grabovski for Kopitar either...

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Johnson is not what the Leafs need, especially at the cost of our $1.3m top pairing, all-situation defenceman.

Realistically... when you look at the cap implications.. the Kings couldn't get Gunnarsson for Johnson straight up. The rest of the deal? an absolute joke. Penner's probably worth a 3rd, and I highly doubt Brian Burke will be the guy to offer that because of their history.
I'm a Leafs fan dude, and I think you're crazy.

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The only way I can see this working would be

Leafs - Carter
Jackets - MacArthur + Schenn + prospects/picks

then

Leafs - Johnson + Penner
Kings - Kulemin (LW/RW) + Grabo (C/LW) + prospects/picks


I don't really think this works for all teams, but it's all I can think of.

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Leafs - Johnson + Penner
Kings - Kulemin (LW/RW) + Grabo (C/LW) + prospects/picks
That seems a little more fair for both sides.

Although, not sure why anyone would want Penner besides being a guy you have to take as a salary dump from a team at this point.

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