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02-20-2012, 07:46 AM
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Crosby

I know it has been discussed bevore, but I wonder, if there's a team which would give up a star player for him right now?


My wish was to get Toews+Keith for Crosby+Martin, but I'm pretty sure that that is just a dream.


What I would want as return:

- superstar forward under 28
- no. 1 or no. 2 d-man

for Crosby
+ Martin/Michalek
+ Kennedy if wanted (for cap reasons etc, obviously doesn't have a great stock atm)


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02-20-2012, 07:59 AM
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I know it has been discussed bevore, but I wonder, if there's a team which would give up a star player for him right now?


My wish was to get Toews+Keith for Crosby+Martin, but I'm pretty sure that that is just a dream.


What I would want as return:

- superstar forward under 28
- no. 1 or no. 2 d-man

for Crosby
+ Martin/Michalek
+ Kennedy if wanted (for cap reasons etc, obviously doesn't have a great stock atm)


Mods: please don't delete it, I would really love to know if people would do that or not.
Now that's interesting. I might do that if I'm Chicago. It's high risk, obviously, but this is Sidney "1.4 Points Per Game" Crosby we're talking about.

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02-20-2012, 08:02 AM
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If he IS NOT healthy, why anybody would give up anything for him?
If he IS healthy, why the Penguins would give up the best player?

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02-20-2012, 08:13 AM
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jeah because Toews and Keith for Crosby and Martin makes no sence for the pens

The penguins have a really good team now. If Crosby doesn't come back, it will still be very good, but not elite. My point is, keeping Crosby creates a risk.

What happens if you trade Crosby?

The media etc would go crazy, fans would be angry.

But at least you play it save and get elite again.

You can't argue, that the pens were elite again, if they would get what I asked for in the trade.

On the other side you can say, why not just keep Crosby, put him on the LTIR and sign a 7million guy in the off season? Because that is no sure thing. Jepp Parise is out there, but would he come here? Nobody knows that atm.

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02-20-2012, 08:15 AM
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If he IS NOT healthy, why anybody would give up anything for him?
If he IS healthy, why the Penguins would give up the best player?
The point is, that nobdody knows if he'll ever be at his full strength again. This is why I say, that trading him might be a good idea. On the other hand sinde, can you garante that he will be the best player, if he's back? Who can say that he'll ever be more than 70% again?..

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02-20-2012, 08:33 AM
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jeah because Toews and Keith for Crosby and Martin makes no sence for the pens

The penguins have a really good team now. If Crosby doesn't come back, it will still be very good, but not elite. My point is, keeping Crosby creates a risk.

What happens if you trade Crosby?

The media etc would go crazy, fans would be angry.

But at least you play it save and get elite again.

You can't argue, that the pens were elite again, if they would get what I asked for in the trade.

On the other side you can say, why not just keep Crosby, put him on the LTIR and sign a 7million guy in the off season? Because that is no sure thing. Jepp Parise is out there, but would he come here? Nobody knows that atm.
So many wasted words. You don't trade the best player in the world.

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02-20-2012, 08:37 AM
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So many wasted words. You don't trade the best player in the world.
Can you get a time machine, go back to 1988, and tell that to Peter Pocklington?

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02-20-2012, 08:39 AM
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So many wasted words. You don't trade the best player in the world.
So you would turn down Crosby, Martin, Sullivan, Kennedy, Cooke and Michalek (the + is just to even it up sallary wise) for Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Keith and Seabrook?

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So you would turn down Crosby, Martin, Sullivan, Kennedy, Cooke and Michalek (the + is just to even it up sallary wise) for Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Keith and Seabrook?
Chicago would turn that down....

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02-20-2012, 08:48 AM
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Chicago would turn that down....
that was sarcasm..of course they would..

My offer still is Toews and Keith for him and Martin

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Toews+Keith for Crosby+Martin, but I'm pretty sure that that is just a dream.


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To me its a great deal and fair on both ends. Pitts is doing fairly well with Crosby.Addding a #1 center in Toews and a #1 d-man in Keith,is huge. pitts may better more than Chi in this situation.

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Chicago would turn that down....
Let's see how much is Savard worth ?

With Crosby's recent health history, any team would be pretty much dumb to trade anything for him just because you know you will have to pay the price. Until the day he steps back to the ice (even if he never comes back to what he was) he is worth 0.

That's like buying a red sports car and paying a Ferrari price not knowing if it's a Ferrari and if it is, if it has a motor, and if it does, if the motor runs.

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Nooooooo. THREAD CLOSED. /

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This thread would be mocked in years past. Sad to say that Crosby could be in Lindros territory in the terms of being "one or two hits" away from it being all over for him. With Malkin in the mix.

I would entertain a Parise/Zajac/Greene for Crosby and Dupuis trade.

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02-20-2012, 09:01 AM
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Its very risky if it had to be done right now. Even if he did return next year (to the team acquiring him) he might bolt to free agency at the end of the year. Because of all this, from the Oil I'd offer our 1st and that's it. Hopefully having Malkin to groom a player similar to him in Grigorenko would be enough enticement, but I doubt it would.

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It's hypothetical but it could happen in very certain scenario in 1-2 seasons.

- Penguis would see the probability Crosby being enough healthy low
- Desperate and/or crazy GM of other team would pay big assets for a big gamble

But for the most likely, Penguins will hold on to Crosby who is big part of their identity + even if he struggles to come healthy I would hope there is enough loyalty in NHL to keep him.

For the value, I don't know but it would need a lot. And it would be way too high risk for an organisation to take. In business you take risks but they're not all-in moves. That ends up bankrupt eventually.

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I know it has been discussed bevore, but I wonder, if there's a team which would give up a star player for him right now?


My wish was to get Toews+Keith for Crosby+Martin, but I'm pretty sure that that is just a dream.


What I would want as return:

- superstar forward under 28
- no. 1 or no. 2 d-man

for Crosby
+ Martin/Michalek
+ Kennedy if wanted (for cap reasons etc, obviously doesn't have a great stock atm)


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Kessel and Phaneuf. Sold!

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Seguin and Seidenberg and 1st for Crsoby and Martin

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So many wasted words. You don't trade the best player in the world.
I remember that Gretzky kid getting traded once. Or twice. Or maybe three times. Something like that.

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I remember that Gretzky kid getting traded once. Or twice. Or maybe three times. Something like that.
For the millionth time......different time, different reasons, different people.

Crosby will not be traded, not now, not tomorrow, not ever (unless, of course, he asks for it).

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Let's see how much is Savard worth ?

With Crosby's recent health history, any team would be pretty much dumb to trade anything for him just because you know you will have to pay the price. Until the day he steps back to the ice (even if he never comes back to what he was) he is worth 0.

That's like buying a red sports car and paying a Ferrari price not knowing if it's a Ferrari and if it is, if it has a motor, and if it does, if the motor runs.
The only reasonable answer to the OPs question

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Seguin and Seidenberg and 1st for Crsoby and Martin
I just went to my citchen to make a cake and thought about exactly that deal.

Not sure if I would take it, if I was the GM, because we don't really need that pick, and might get better offers from other teams, but still solid, IMO.

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I just went to my citchen to make a cake and thought about exactly that deal.

Not sure if I would take it, if I was the GM, because we don't really need that pick, and might get better offers from other teams, but still solid, IMO.
You're a Pens fan and you think that's a solid deal ??

Yikes.

Seguin, Hamilton, three first rounders and MAYBE Shero listens

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