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02-21-2012, 11:19 PM
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Okay, random game. Here goes.

Take our current line up, and remove 6-7 positions that you believe our prospects will fill within the next 4 years.

Lupul - xxx - Kessel
Frattin - Colborne - Biggs
Mueller - xxx - Damigo
Brown - Steckel - Devane

Gardiner - Phaneuf
Gunnarsson - Franson
Liles - Percy

Reimer

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It's gotta be a motivation issue. Kadri has done everything the team has asked of him in the AHL. Then each time he gets a callup, they put him with scrubs like Armstrong and he doesnt produce. So they send him back down. Whats the kid to do?
This is the problem when waiver concerns and nonsense trump a meritocracy...

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TBH, im more excited for Granberg than any of them.

From what I have seen, hes mobile, hes freakishly strong, and he is extremely intelligent when it comes to shutting forwards down.

They didnt rely on him as the WJC's primary defensive dman for nothing. Not much flash, but he sure is efficient.
yeap, people are very very happy with his defensive game

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not to mention he plays quite a bit with an edge.

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Can Kadri play goal? If not, that can wait.
No but technically Reimer can be waived with no threat of being claimed by another team.

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Okay, random game. Here goes.

Take our current line up, and remove 6-7 positions that you believe our prospects will fill within the next 4 years.

Lupul - xxx - Kessel
Frattin - Colborne - Biggs
Mueller - xxx - Damigo
Brown - Steckel - Devane

Gardiner - Phaneuf
Gunnarsson - Franson
Liles - Percy

Reimer
Lupul - Kadri - Kessel
Ross - Colborne - Biggs
Frattin - Mckegg- D'amigo
Mueller - Cresenzi - Ryan

Gardiner - Phaneuf
Aulie - Franson
Liles - Blacker

Percy i can see taking his time in the AHL

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Anyways, i think kadri will bust sorry guys if he was good dont you think he would be up here over lombardi, crabb, boyce, etc?
According to this theory Colborne and Frattin are busts for the very same reason, and Blacker and Holzer's are busts because they can't outplay Komisarek.

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Okay, random game. Here goes.

Take our current line up, and remove 6-7 positions that you believe our prospects will fill within the next 4 years.

Lupul - xxx - Kessel
Frattin - Colborne - Biggs
Mueller - xxx - Damigo
Brown - Steckel - Devane

Gardiner - Phaneuf
Gunnarsson - Franson
Liles - Percy

Reimer
Lupul - Colborne - Kessel
Kadri - Grabovski - Kulemin
Ross - Bozak - Biggs
Brown - Ryan - Devane

Gardiner - Schenn
Gunnarsson - Phaneuf
Aulie - Franson

Reimer

Doubt there will be much of a change, there is not enough time for the majority of our prospects to develop.

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I am making fine based on the start 2015-16


Lupul? - XXXX - Kessel
Ross- Colborne- XXXX
D'Amigo - Kadri - Biggs
Devane - Carrick - Nicholls

Gunnarsson - Phaneuf
Granberg - Gardiner
Liles - Blacker
MacWilliams

XXXXX
Sparks

Way to optimistic...
There are some prospect I just really like and it is hard to ignore (Nicholls, Granberg)
and others i don't really expect to go anywhere, but I am really cheering for them(Carrick)
I really think MacWilliam is a total darkhorse for that 6/7 shut down role. In general that is my favourite aspect of our prospect pool now vs. depleted past. We have 20 prospects not on our top 20 that would of been in the top 20 3 or 4 years ago. I also love the amount of long term darkhorse picks we have

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I am making fine based on the start 2015-16


Lupul? - XXXX - Kessel
Ross- Colborne- XXXX
D'Amigo - Kadri - Biggs
Devane - Carrick - Nicholls

Gunnarsson - Phaneuf
Granberg - Gardiner
Liles - Blacker
MacWilliams

XXXXX
Sparks

Way to optimistic...
There are some prospect I just really like and it is hard to ignore (Nicholls, Granberg)
and others i don't really expect to go anywhere, but I am really cheering for them(Carrick)
I really think MacWilliam is a total darkhorse for that 6/7 shut down role. In general that is my favourite aspect of our prospect pool now vs. depleted past. We have 20 prospects not on our top 20 that would of been in the top 20 3 or 4 years ago. I also love the amount of long term darkhorse picks we have
Agreed, alot of shot in the darks.

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its good to see finally other people realize there are lot of dark horse prospect, there potential is there, but it depends on how we and they develop themselves to that path

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Actually, go back to draft day.

Was not a love for the pick so for many it is prove to me it was the correct choice.

I don't think he has proven it yet, but look at Tlusty, he'd definitely be an asset to the Leafs today. When you are not a superior talent you have to put in your time and develop into a NHL player. I'm not sure Kadri will be with the Leafs long enough to prove it.
Please show me one post of yours that stated we made a mistake letting Tlusty go before two weeks ago.

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02-22-2012, 07:31 AM
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I'm not sure how many of you get Sportsnet One or Sportsnet West, but Josh Nicholls and the Saskatoon Blades are playing friday night.

I'm going to try and watch this game and see how he's developing and playing after his injury.

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Please show me one post of yours that stated we made a mistake letting Tlusty go before two weeks ago.
Hey, the search facility works do your own leg work newb. (j/k about the newb you 2008 come lately)

I was a Tlusty supporter since the beginning when eveyone was bailing on him because of the pictures ... unlike many posters here I did dumb things when I was younger, but there was no instant media.

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Tlusty went through some injuries last season. He just turned 23, Frattin is 23. Kadri was 20 in his first AHL season, same age as Tlusty.

If Tlusty doesn't have a good season this year he might be finished, if Frattin doesn't have a good season this year it is okay?

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He's a scout's dream in the way he prepares himself and plays an unselfish game, making smart decisions with the puck. With his bloodlines, he certainly understands what it will take to make it at the next level.
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Yea, I pretty much thought *ockshow was gonna turn out to be what he has become, he just wasn't going to do it here, after the hoopla. Too bad, really. He's a good, hard working guy.

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Kadri hasn't been good in the marlies

Frattin has been much better; even guys like Colborne and possibly Mueller have been better than Kadri
I've watched a few Marlie games the last month and I gotta say Kadri looks like he floates for a better part of the game. I agree that Frattin has been much better, the best player on the ice for the games I've attended. Colborne has been great at times too, his passing and vision is definatly NHL level, he could shot more though.

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What is Kadri's save percentage?

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No but technically Reimer can be waived with no threat of being claimed by another team.
Not true. Any time you are put on waivers there is always a threat of being claimed.

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Yea, I pretty much thought *ockshow was gonna turn out to be what he has become, he just wasn't going to do it here, after the hoopla. Too bad, really. He's a good, hard working guy.
To me he looked like a complementary player you could use just about anywhere, but one that would be better with better linemates. He won't drag down a line, but he might never lead one. Lead, follow, or get out of the way ... he's a good follow / support type player.

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This is the problem when waiver concerns and nonsense trump a meritocracy...
Well, if you're going with meritocracy, Colborne, Mueller, Frattin, Zigomanis, Hamilton and Scott are all playing better than Kadri on the Marlies right now.

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"Media is media, and you have to do your job," he said. "I guess the only thing I would say is that maybe you could be more patient with the young guys, because a lot of time you get better as you grow. Montreal is `win now,' and a lot of times kids are not ready to win now. So then you get impatient and trade them, and sometimes they come back in my situation where maybe they were traded too quick."
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"Media is media, and you have to do your job," he said. "I guess the only thing I would say is that maybe you could be more patient with the young guys, because a lot of time you get better as you grow. Montreal is `win now,' and a lot of times kids are not ready to win now. So then you get impatient and trade them, and sometimes they come back in my situation where maybe they were traded too quick."
To add to that regarding some of our defensemen currently on our team that people want to ship out, Ken Holland in reference to Quincey said he was a player just coming into his prime at 26.

Also said it was a mistake they gave up on him so soon.

“If we could do it all over again, we’d make a different decision,” said Holland, who chose to keep Derek Meech over Quincey when the Wings had to choose between the two because of a roster crunch before the 2008-09 season.

Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Wi...#ixzz1n81YhKl7

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C M.Zigomanis (31): 51gms, 15gls, 48pts, +1 (82gms, 24gls, 77pts, +2)
W R.Hamilton (26): 53gms, 21gls, 40pts, +3 (82gms, 33gls, 62pts, +5)
W P.Dupuis (26): 20gms, 5gls, 14pts, +5 (82gms, 21gls, 57pts, +21)

C J.Colborne (22): 43gms, 16gls, 35pts, +10 (82gms, 31gls, 67pts, +19)
W M.Frattin (24): 21gms, 12gls, 16pts, +0 (82gms, 47gls, 63pts, +0)
W M.Mueller (23): 51gms, 12gls, 34pts, +10 (82gms, 19gls, 55pts, +16)

C N.Kadri (21): 31gms, 9gls, 25pts, -2 (82gms, 24gls, 66pts, -5)
W J.D'Amigo (21): 54gms, 12gls, 32pts, +10 (82gms, 18gls, 49pts, +15)
W G.Scott (23): 53gms, 13gls, 29pts, +4 (82gms, 20gls, 45pts, +6)
W N.Deschamps (22): 51gms, 7gls, 21pts, -2 (82gms, 11gls, 34pts, -3)



D M.Lashoff (25): 9gms, 1gls, 5pts, +6 (82gms, 9gls, 46pts, +55)
D S.Gysbers (24): 47gms, 4gls, 22pts, +8 (82gms, 7gls, 38pts, +14)

D K.Holzer (24): 45gms, 1gls, 14pts, +3 (82gms, 2gls, 26pts, +6)
D J.Mikus (23): 54gms, 1gls, 7pts, +8 (82gms, 2gls, 11pts, +12)

D J.Blacker (20): 46gms, 1gls, 14pts, +9 (82gms, 2gls, 25pts, +16)
D K.Aulie (22): 21gms, 0gls, 1pts, -7 (82gms, 0gls, 4pts, -27)



G M.Owuya (22): 16gms, 8-5-1, 1so, 2.15gaa, .924sv%
G B.Scrivens (25): 26gms, 14-10-1, 1so, 2.30gaa, .914sv%

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If only Lashoff was healthy, Marlies could really use him

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