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wow I thought Aulie just sucked in the NHL.

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wow I thought Aulie just sucked in the NHL.
He's the only young player I've ever seen who is significantly worse in the AHL. Watching him on the ice is the worst part of whatever it is I do.

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wow I thought Aulie just sucked in the NHL.
Started off really poorly. IMO he's been a lot better in the 2nd half.

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Marlies are really in for a strong playoff run.

In fact, i wouldnt be shocked if they did go deep, dont we have a few potential juniour add ons?

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Marlies are really in for a strong playoff run.

In fact, i wouldnt be shocked if they did go deep, dont we have a few potential juniour add ons?
I'm not going to say their a favourite, but I'd be surprised if they didn't win the first round. This is the best marlies team I've seen in a few years.

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wow I thought Aulie just sucked in the NHL.
Aulie will prove you all wrong, hopefully it will be as a Leaf, knightly I watch Liles, Phaneuf, and Gardiner get caught up the ice or give the puck away in their own zone time and time again. Aulie gets caught up the ice once and Phaneuf plays the two on one terriblely and Wilson the gutless puke that he is makes an example of Aulie. While the others get carte blanche to make the same mistakes over and over again. Keith Aulie sticks up for his team and himself that's more than 90% of the roster can say. This team plays the game just the way that Ron Wilson played for the Leafs decades ago. He was offensive and soft and easily intimadated, that's why he went to Switzerland to play just like many of the Roster should follow his example and head to the Alps, they certainly play the game that Ron did in his prime.

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I'd love to see the Marlies string together a nice playoff run. They'd have more playoff experience coming up to the Leafs than the Leafs do for god sakes.

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Well the team that went to the Conference Finals three years ago doesn't have near the talent this team does. Hopefully they kick some ass in the playoffs.

OT: Was looking at Tyler Biggs stats 16 pts in 30 games as an 18 year old freshman is pretty solid. Hopefully some way Leafs can convince him to go to Junior. It would be so much better for his development IMO. More games and better competition.

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I'm not going to say their a favourite, but I'd be surprised if they didn't win the first round. This is the best marlies team I've seen in a few years.
I completely agree, they are a great ****in team. They have an incredible amount of depth and as long as they can get/stay healthy, along with the Leafs, i can see the Marlies having a good chance to make a run. They roll 4 good lines which all seem to have chemsitry and once they get healthy on D they will be really tough to play against IMO. Also, the Marlies PK is tops in the league and they have a pretty good powerplay with a ton of skill on both units and if Lashoff can make it back for the playoffs that will only improve the PP(not sure if he will come back though). Not to mention 3 solid tenders but you got to like Scrivens as your #1. Anyway, i'm definitely going to be taking in some playoff games for the Marlies this year barring an epic collapse in the last couple months of the season, should be fun

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Well the team that went to the Conference Finals three years ago doesn't have near the talent this team does. Hopefully they kick some ass in the playoffs.

OT: Was looking at Tyler Biggs stats 16 pts in 30 games as an 18 year old freshman is pretty solid. Hopefully some way Leafs can convince him to go to Junior. It would be so much better for his development IMO. More games and better competition.
Why do you think he'd be better off to play junior?

College hockey is the right choice for Biggs. More games yes. Better competition? That's debateable.

If Biggs were playing in the CHL he'd be fighting a lot more. Guys would be stepping up wanting to prove themselves against the guy who's supposed to be the best fighter in the 2011 draft. Also Biggs is already physically mature. He needs to play against the older guys in college, not a collection of 15-19 year olds.

In college he doesn't have to fight- he is working purely on his skills and game. No worries about concussion or injury from fighting. Junior would be a worse place for Biggs to develop IMO.

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Biggs is having a very similar year to Brock Nelson's rookie year in the NCAA (the Isles 30th overall pick the year before last). Nelson plays a similar game to Biggs, although is less physical and is having a break-out year this year.

Last year he had: 8 goals and 13 assists (21 pts) in 42 games.

This year he has 20 goals and 15 assists (35 pts) in 31 games.


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Marlies are 6th. in the league so should pose some thread in the post season.

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Am I the only fan that finds Orr fighting in the AHL sad? Orr certainly held his own.

BTW, that was a dangerous, disrespectful take down by that guy. Could have driven Orr's head into the ice.

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Why do you think he'd be better off to play junior?

College hockey is the right choice for Biggs. More games yes. Better competition? That's debateable.

If Biggs were playing in the CHL he'd be fighting a lot more. Guys would be stepping up wanting to prove themselves against the guy who's supposed to be the best fighter in the 2011 draft. Also Biggs is already physically mature. He needs to play against the older guys in college, not a collection of 15-19 year olds.

In college he doesn't have to fight- he is working purely on his skills and game. No worries about concussion or injury from fighting. Junior would be a worse place for Biggs to develop IMO.
I think you're wrong on both bolded counts. I don't recall anyone calling him the "best fighter" in that draft. I could name a few who would have had that mantle over him. One of the toughest? No doubt about that though.

And his junior right are held by Oshawa. I don't know if you see them all that often but they are among the league leaders in FMs and have a handful of guys who would be willing to step in for a big name guy like Biggs. He'd have a few fights, but there's no way Gary Agnew would let guys chase him around all night as you imagine.

I'm comfortable with his development but there's no way the O would be bad for him

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I think you're wrong on both bolded counts. I don't recall anyone calling him the "best fighter" in that draft. I could name a few who would have had that mantle over him. One of the toughest? No doubt about that though.

And his junior right are held by Oshawa. I don't know if you see them all that often but they are among the league leaders in FMs and have a handful of guys who would be willing to step in for a big name guy like Biggs. He'd have a few fights, but there's no way Gary Agnew would let guys chase him around all night as you imagine.

I'm comfortable with his development but there's no way the O would be bad for him
It was either pierre mcguire or bob mckenzie going over their notes as biggs was selected that said that IIRC. They basically said he was the prototypical burke player.

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they reffered to biggs as the best fighter in the draft. No idea if it's true, but that's what they said.

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Why do you think he'd be better off to play junior?

College hockey is the right choice for Biggs. More games yes. Better competition? That's debateable.

If Biggs were playing in the CHL he'd be fighting a lot more. Guys would be stepping up wanting to prove themselves against the guy who's supposed to be the best fighter in the 2011 draft. Also Biggs is already physically mature. He needs to play against the older guys in college, not a collection of 15-19 year olds.

In college he doesn't have to fight- he is working purely on his skills and game. No worries about concussion or injury from fighting. Junior would be a worse place for Biggs to develop IMO.
very well said and i agree, with no fighting in college, they can make him focus purely on skill

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Aulie will prove you all wrong, hopefully it will be as a Leaf, knightly I watch Liles, Phaneuf, and Gardiner get caught up the ice or give the puck away in their own zone time and time again. Aulie gets caught up the ice once and Phaneuf plays the two on one terriblely and Wilson the gutless puke that he is makes an example of Aulie. While the others get carte blanche to make the same mistakes over and over again. Keith Aulie sticks up for his team and himself that's more than 90% of the roster can say. This team plays the game just the way that Ron Wilson played for the Leafs decades ago. He was offensive and soft and easily intimadated, that's why he went to Switzerland to play just like many of the Roster should follow his example and head to the Alps, they certainly play the game that Ron did in his prime.
Yes true all the guys mention do get out of position and make mistakes but atleast it because they are trying to make offensive plays, Aulie has one job to do and that is play defensive and if he cant do that he is compeltely usless. I think Ronnie gave Aulie too much to handle (like Shutting down Sedins lol) and put him in a position to fail.

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very well said and i agree, with no fighting in college, they can make him focus purely on skill
Lots of PF's survived going through CHL.

I don't think it makes a bigg difference whether he stays in college or goes to CHL.

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Lots of PF's survived going through CHL.

I don't think it makes a bigg difference whether he stays in college or goes to CHL.
Division 1 schools have GREAT strength and conditioning programs, and athletes spend more time in the gym working on upper and lower body strength. Look at Frattin. Biggs' best route is through college, because he can grow into an imposing player, and work on his scoring touch

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Aulie will prove you all wrong, hopefully it will be as a Leaf, knightly I watch Liles, Phaneuf, and Gardiner get caught up the ice or give the puck away in their own zone time and time again. Aulie gets caught up the ice once and Phaneuf plays the two on one terriblely and Wilson the gutless puke that he is makes an example of Aulie. While the others get carte blanche to make the same mistakes over and over again. Keith Aulie sticks up for his team and himself that's more than 90% of the roster can say. This team plays the game just the way that Ron Wilson played for the Leafs decades ago. He was offensive and soft and easily intimadated, that's why he went to Switzerland to play just like many of the Roster should follow his example and head to the Alps, they certainly play the game that Ron did in his prime.
Jared Cowen, Keith Aulie, ... you sure make some odd choices in the players you do like haha

I also like when your posts go on random tangents, with the last sentence being an excellent example.

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Tom Nilsson seems to have a solid season in Mora. He's a interesting player, very physical, can lay out ppl with open ice hits.

Here he steps up on top prospect Filip Forsberg:


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Tom Nilsson seems to have a solid season in Mora. He's a interesting player, very physical, can lay out ppl with open ice hits.

Here he steps up on top prospect Filip Forsberg:

How's his defense, skating, and hockey awareness?

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It was either pierre mcguire or bob mckenzie going over their notes as biggs was selected that said that IIRC. They basically said he was the prototypical burke player.
Just checked out youtube and you're right BM did say that. Probably a bit of hyperbole on their part but my point still stands.

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Tom Nilsson seems to have a solid season in Mora. He's a interesting player, very physical, can lay out ppl with open ice hits.

Here he steps up on top prospect Filip Forsberg:

I have very high hopes for this kid. But like the poster above me how's his defensive game and all that? I know he's not really that much of an offensive guy also but how's the shot and passing abilities also?

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