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and the others that think that these guys (Commodore and Pothier and Dagenais) are meaningless

"But what we do know now is that Commodore, Dagenais and Pothier are members of the NHLPA's largest class of players. That is, those making less than the average annual salary of $1.8 million."

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and the others that think that these guys (Commodore and Pothier and Dagenais) are meaningless

"But what we do know now is that Commodore, Dagenais and Pothier are members of the NHLPA's largest class of players. That is, those making less than the average annual salary of $1.8 million."

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Like grunts everywhere, they are an important part of the team. But, they are not why the NHL is the best league in the world. In the end, it's the most talented players who will always benefit the most.

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Like grunts everywhere, they are an important part of the team. But, they are not why the NHL is the best league in the world. In the end, it's the most talented players who will always benefit the most.

not be the voice that controls the union.

Union leadership has always been in place by voting, the current leadership group can easily be changed by voting and if more members of the NHLPA feel as if their best interests are not being represented then you will see a change.

Grunts may not be what brings people to the arena's and that's fine, but because they aren't "stars" their interests should be addressed and there are more and more that feel like they are expendable.

When you have "star" players talking about contraction of 4-6 teams, we are talking about anywhere upwards of 130 players losing jobs as well as 130+ Minor leaguers losing their jobs. If I were a Commodore or a Pothier or a Daenais I'd slap Chelios in the mouth. Bottom line is all these "star" players care about is the earning power of the "star" player today and in the future, not the pluggers and that's not right at all, and it's not serving the whole Union's best interest, in my opinion.

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and the others that think that these guys (Commodore and Pothier and Dagenais) are meaningless

"But what we do know now is that Commodore, Dagenais and Pothier are members of the NHLPA's largest class of players. That is, those making less than the average annual salary of $1.8 million."

taken from the linked article
Thanks to over-expansion, yes this is true.

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If I were a Commodore or a Pothier or a Daenais I'd slap Chelios in the mouth. Bottom line is all these "star" players care about is the earning power of the "star" player today and in the future, not the pluggers and that's not right at all, and it's not serving the whole Union's best interest, in my opinion.
But it is those pluggers that will be squeezed out of the league with Bettman's cap. The stars and other top 2 liners & top 4 defensemen will still get their money. It is the bottom 6 forwards and last 2 defensemen types that will get replaced when it is time to look how to save money so that a teams' top players will get paid.
They can say what they want. Fact is, the are only speeding their own way into an NHL grave.

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not be the voice that controls the union.

Union leadership has always been in place by voting, the current leadership group can easily be changed by voting and if more members of the NHLPA feel as if their best interests are not being represented then you will see a change.

Grunts may not be what brings people to the arena's and that's fine, but because they aren't "stars" their interests should be addressed and there are more and more that feel like they are expendable.

When you have "star" players talking about contraction of 4-6 teams, we are talking about anywhere upwards of 130 players losing jobs as well as 130+ Minor leaguers losing their jobs. If I were a Commodore or a Pothier or a Daenais I'd slap Chelios in the mouth. Bottom line is all these "star" players care about is the earning power of the "star" player today and in the future, not the pluggers and that's not right at all, and it's not serving the whole Union's best interest, in my opinion.
If the marginal players "win" (not quite sure how to define it, but let's say they force the union to accept an "offer" similar to the one put on the table by the NHL), then very simply that will be the end of the NHL. Think controlled contraction is bad, think about the market determinining it and losing 8 or 10 teams.

I'm a big fan of hockey, but let's face it, even the biggest fans don't go to see a bunch of faceless players grind it out night after night after night. The NHL needs flash and skill to survive. There has to be middle ground. If there isn't, then in the end, everyone loses.

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