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11-02-2004, 05:04 PM
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Fine .... So you will continue to go ..and I bet more ST Johns fans that do not go regularly would also likely take in a game now ..perhaps..

So now isn't there a fine line now between my Thornton example and Matty Stajan .. when the Lockout ends .. Stajan likely is headed back to the NHL ..and only filling a roster spot while there is a lockout ..

and really isn't any AHL player only playing in the AHL in hopes of making it to the NHL and if the opportunity exists would in a heartbeat skip town and never look back or feel sorry for his AHL team ...
well, there's a big difference in what thornton is doing and what stajan is doing, but you have a point. that's a big part of the reason why i am glad to be rid of the ahl and the leafs farm team.

junior will be much better, as you pointed out.

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well, there's a big difference in what thornton is doing and what stajan is doing, but you have a point. that's a big part of the reason why i am glad to be rid of the ahl and the leafs farm team.

junior will be much better, as you pointed out.
Czech attendance record broken
Associated Press
11/3/2004

PRAGUE (AP) - A record 15,783 spectators packed Prague's Sazka Arena to see NHL star Jaromir Jagr in action for Kladno against Slavia Prague in a Czech league match Tuesday.

The New York Rangers forward, playing for his hometown during the NHL lockout, had three assists in a 3-2 victory, earning a standing ovation from fans of both teams. Jagr leads the league in scoring with 24 points - nine goals, 15 assists - in 16 games.

The previous attendance record was 14,365 for a Sparta Prague-Vsetin game in 2001.

More than 50 Czech players, including such stars as Milan Hejduk, Patrik Elias and Tomas Vokoun, have returned home during the NHL lockout, leading to sold-out arenas across the country.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=103499

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While some people may feel it is morally wrong for NHL players to go to Europe ... Reports like this and others show that Fans could not be happier even if it is just short term ....

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Czech attendance record broken
Associated Press
11/3/2004

PRAGUE (AP) - A record 15,783 spectators packed Prague's Sazka Arena to see NHL star Jaromir Jagr in action for Kladno against Slavia Prague in a Czech league match Tuesday.

The New York Rangers forward, playing for his hometown during the NHL lockout, had three assists in a 3-2 victory, earning a standing ovation from fans of both teams. Jagr leads the league in scoring with 24 points - nine goals, 15 assists - in 16 games.

The previous attendance record was 14,365 for a Sparta Prague-Vsetin game in 2001.

More than 50 Czech players, including such stars as Milan Hejduk, Patrik Elias and Tomas Vokoun, have returned home during the NHL lockout, leading to sold-out arenas across the country.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=103499

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While some people may feel it is morally wrong for NHL players to go to Europe ... Reports like this and others show that Fans could not be happier even if it is just short term ....

Owners lock the players out in North America because they want more money in their own hands.

Owners in Europe sign them to contracts because they want more money in their own hands.

How much would you pay to watch the owners work?

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Owners lock the players out in North America because they want more money in their own hands.

Owners in Europe sign them to contracts because they want more money in their own hands.

How much would you pay to watch the owners work?
McKenzie: Kazan loading up (10/27/04)
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10/27/2004

Of all the European teams signing locked out NHLers, none is more intriguing than Russian club team AK Bars Kazan, the current home to Ilya Kovalchuk and a team that is making noise like it's set to become the Russian equivalent of the New York Rangers.

For starters, you have to like the handle - AK Bars Kazan. It really rolls off the tongue. Kazan, by the way, is a city in eastern Russia that this year is celebrating its 1,000th year of existence. The team is apparently operated by the city itself and is prepared to spend Ranger-like money to win the Russian Super League in this anniversary year.

That's why AK Bars is reportedly paying Kovalchuk $3 million this season. That's three million net, after taxes and expenses. And now comes word that AK Bars Kazan is really loaded for bear and on the verge of signing a raft of big-name NHLers to big buck deals.

There are reports Tampa Bay netminder Nikolai Khabibulin has been offered $6 million if he commits to a full season there. And while it's far from a done deal, AK Bars is negotiating with two more members of the Stanley Cup champions -- Brad Richards and Vincent Lecavalier. It's said each offer is for perhaps as much as $300,000 U.S. net for every month Richards and Lecavalier stay in Russia. They are said to be considering the offers.

Toronto's Nik Antropov is also weighing an AK Bars offer for less than that, about $600,000 if he commits to stay for the rest of the season. There are also reports, which are not always to be trusted, that Ruslan Salei and Darius Kasparaitis have already signed on with AK Bars, joining other notables such as Kovalchuk, Dennis Arkhipov and Fedor Fedorov.

Read on: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp...21&hubName=nhl

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Lecavalier to join Kazan in Russia

TSN.ca Staff with RDS files
11/4/2004

TSN's sister station in Quebec RDS reports that Tampa Bay Lightning centre Vincent Lecavalier is set to join AK Bars Kazan of the Russian Elite League on Nov. 23.

"Yes, it's done," Lecavalier's agent Kent Hughes said Thursday from Westwood, Mass. "The situation is great for Vinny, being able to join a lineup with such elite NHL players."

Terms of the deal have not been disclosed, but previous reports have said the offer is for as much as $300,000 US net for every month Lecavalier stays in Russia.

Lecavalier, who helped lead the Lightning to its first Stanley Cup victory in June, joins a stacked Kazan lineup that already includes Atlanta Thrashers star winger Ilya Kovalchuk, as well as Nik Antropov of the Toronto Maple Leafs, Darius Kasparaitis of the New York Rangers, Ruslan Salei of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks, Fred Brathwaite of the Columbus Blue Jackets, Denis Arkhipov of the Predators and Alexei Morozov of the Pittsburgh Penguins.

AK Bars Kazan continues to load up on NHL star power. The Russian team signed Tampa Bay Lightning centre Vincent Lecavalier on Thursday and was reportedly on the verge of also signing star winger Alexei Kovalev of the Montreal Canadiens. Lecavalier, who helped lead the Lightning to its first Stanley Cup in June, joins a stacked lineup that already includes NHL stars Ilya Kovalchuk and Darius Kasparaitis.

FULL STORY...http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp...17&hubName=nhl

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Boy are the owners ever making the Lockout players ever suffer ..

Kovalchuk $3 million this season. That's three million net, after taxes and expenses..

$300,000 US net for every month Lecavalier stays in Russia

Nikolai Khabibulin has been offered $6 million if he commits to a full season there

How will this poor NHLers ever survive ...???

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Boy are the owners ever making the Lockout players ever suffer ..

Kovalchuk $3 million this season. That's three million net, after taxes and expenses..

$300,000 US net for every month Lecavalier stays in Russia

Nikolai Khabibulin has been offered $6 million if he commits to a full season there

How will this poor NHLers ever survive ...???
How will the team afford them? Must be money in the hockey game, ya think?

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How will the team afford them? Must be money in the hockey game, ya think?
I found it really interesting that Kovalchuk for instance is making at least double nearly double what he was getting paid in the NHL on his old rookie entry level contract ...

How will a 35 million cap work and how does the NHL plan on controlling and lowering Salaries if a play can make as much if not more playing in Europe and there its NET ..after taxes and living and accomidations as well ..

Nikolai Khabibulin has been offered $6 million .. How many peolpe would take far less money to play in the NHL .. if this is guaranteed in his home country .. ???

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