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02-23-2012, 04:35 PM
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in all fairness Kabarle's point production since joining the habs is near 50points over a season.

The biggest problem with Kabarle is the salary. If he made 2M$ i dont think it would be as bad. At 2M$, he's not a bad #6 provided that the #5 infront of him are very good.
The money is a problem for sure.

Kaberle can score points. He can also allow them. He is a -5 right now. If he scores 50 points in a season but is on the ice when 60+ goals are scored, how much help is he for the team? He is horrid on defense and will not hit opposing players.

Spacek's expiring contract was ideal for the Habs to get better players than Kaberle.

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The money is a problem for sure.

Kaberle can score points. He can also allow them. He is a -5 right now. If he scores 50 points in a season but is on the ice when 60+ goals are scored, how much help is he for the team? He is horrid on defense and will not hit opposing players.

Spacek's expiring contract was ideal for the Habs to get better players than Kaberle.
we just need someone to shelter him, we dont right now

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we just need someone to shelter him, we dont right now
Take any DMan in the NHL and pair him with Kaberle. The other team still has a 2 on 1 opportunity most shifts.

There are DMen in the NHL who can score AND play defense. But no, Gauthier HAD to trade Spacek for Kaberle and now we are stuck with him and his contract and his no defense style of playing "defense".

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02-23-2012, 06:08 PM
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Take any DMan in the NHL and pair him with Kaberle. The other team still has a 2 on 1 opportunity most shifts.

There are DMen in the NHL who can score AND play defense. But no, Gauthier HAD to trade Spacek for Kaberle and now we are stuck with him and his contract and his no defense style of playing "defense".
well to be fair, a guy like Spacek can not land you a D that can score AND play defense.

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well to be fair, a guy like Spacek can not land you a D that can score AND play defense.
I agree with you.

Let Spacek's contract end, pat him on the back and thank him for a job well done and use that money to go after a DMan who can do both.

But we are getting off topic so I will bring it back. Keep Moen!! 4th line with White and a UFA like Brandon Prust or Zenon Konopka.

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02-23-2012, 10:51 PM
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The money is a problem for sure.

Kaberle can score points. He can also allow them. He is a -5 right now. If he scores 50 points in a season but is on the ice when 60+ goals are scored, how much help is he for the team? He is horrid on defense and will not hit opposing players.

Spacek's expiring contract was ideal for the Habs to get better players than Kaberle.
IF Kaberle is a -5 on the season, than he is a plus player in Montreal. I remember him being a -12 when we got him, so he would be +7 on the season. Which makes him sound great, if he scores 50pts and is a plus player.

On topic, I really hope we keep Moen. He is one of those guys you need to win, a heart and soul guy and Gorges obviously knows that. If the guy that everyone wants to be captain says we should keep a player, we should probably keep him.

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02-23-2012, 11:15 PM
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Sure, Moen is an important piece on a winning team.


We're not a winning team.



Get another pick for him, and let Timmins go wild at the draft.

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Moen should stay, he's the perfect 3rd liner, people who say he's a dime a dozen realy should bring some names.

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Moen should stay, he's the perfect 3rd liner, people who say he's a dime a dozen realy should bring some names.
"... people who say he's a dime a dozen realy should bring some names."

^^This^^

I can see White, in 2-3 years, becoming a reliable 3rd liner but those players (reliable + draw the line) sure don't grow on trees. In Moen and White, we have players in the same ball park of Neil imo. We must find room for both of them.

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