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02-21-2012, 07:49 PM
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cleary interfernce

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Lol.

There's a reason Clarkson got the extra two.

Criticizing Phaneuf for fighting with a visor here is silly.
Please. He didn't jump him. There's a good 15 seconds of Clarkson goading him, until Phaneuf threw off the gloves and tried to surprise Clarkson.

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He finished his check... and then hit him again lol.
That's true, but guys jostling along the boards get hit multiple times. Nobody would have noticed anything if Parise didn't go down like a sack of bricks.

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Lol look at properly, the hit was clearly on his chest. Parise dived when the Leafs got a PP lol.

There is no way that little tap from Kessel makes Parise fall to the ice.


I mean, not only was that hit far from the chest.. it was a shoulder to the head (legal).

but diving on the next play? oh come on..

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Thats what they said on SNET too. Hit was legal. I am still unsure, why a player MUST fight after landing a hit on a player. The guy paid price for being weak on skates, why fight other guy for that?

It was a borderline hit on the captain. Of course you are going to go after the guy. I'm not too thrilled about the instigator, but I'd rather have them take the instigator than let them take runs at one of our best players with no repercussion.

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He didn't really have the opportunity, did he? Clarkson went up to him and started pushing him around.
Yeah because it takes 12 minutes to take off your helmet. Gloves off, helmet off, fight, or don't fight at all.

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Props to Clarkson for standing up for his teammate.

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Phanuef forced to fight after a clean hit to appease the HF crowd.

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Please. He didn't jump him. There's a good 15 seconds of Clarkson goading him, until Phaneuf threw off the gloves and tried to surprise Clarkson.
I never said he jumped him, but Clarkson got 2 for roughing for a reason.

He knew what he was doing, challenging someone with a visor in that manner.

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I can't stand you people that say all the ******** about not taking off the visor. Clarkson goes and instigates a fight, which didn't get called, why should Phaneuf have to take his visor off for making a hit? Like seriously, **** off.

If Phaneuf went after a guy and didn't take his visor off, alright, but that wasn't the case. If a guy came after me because I made a hit, yeah right, I wouldn't take my visor off.

What a ****ing joke

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It was a borderline hit on the captain. Of course you are going to go after the guy. I'm not too thrilled about the instigator, but I'd rather have them take the instigator than let them take runs at one of our best players with no repercussion.
Well, I'd agree on that from Devils PoV (as obvious from my previous post).

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I hate that players have to fight after hits that are clean. I love the refs chickening away from calling the instigator too. Roughing? Please.
If Kessel got rocked the Leafs would have stuck up for him too. If a team's star player gets hit like that there is nothing with responding

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Yeah because it takes 12 minutes to take off your helmet. Gloves off, helmet off, fight, or don't fight at all.
What a joke.

Your calling out Phaneuf, for accepting a challenge after a clean hit, because he fights with his helmet on.

Maybe Clarkson shouldn't have challenged him then?

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HF logic after other hits:

Dion never fights to stand up for his hits

HF logic now:

Dion should remove his visor if he wants to fight

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Honestly, please don't ask people to fight your way when you start a fight. Next thing, people would want is, fight by tucking in your arms in your jersey, so I can beat you up. :shakhead

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I never said he jumped him, but Clarkson got 2 for roughing for a reason.

He knew what he was doing, challenging someone with a visor in that manner.
All I'm saying is he had plenty of opportunity. It's not like he thought he could talk Clarkson out of it. If you're going to go in the end anyway, you may as well take off the visor not delay and then try and surprise Clarkson. It's not up to 'code', but it's not a huge deal either way.

Clarkson doing his job. You can't let Parise take a borderline play like that.

No idea how people can call that a 'clean' hit, though. Parise didn't have the puck. Textbook interference. The hit itself wasn't egregious, even though it was to the head.

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that was a blatant forearm to the face. how is that even a hit btw? talk about a misleading title OP. lord

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HF logic after other hits:

Dion never fights to stand up for his hits

HF logic now:

Dion should remove his visor if he wants to fight
He can't win.

He'd be a coward if he didn't fight, but is one for not taking off his helmet in a fight he didn't start.

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If Kessel got rocked the Leafs would have stuck up for him too. If a team's star player gets hit like that there is nothing with responding
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with what Clarkson did. Phaneuf dropped Parise and it's entirely in Clarkson's right to send his message.

I just think that Phaneuf shouldn't HAVE to fight there. If Clarkson comes up and taps his pads and Phaneuf wants to go, by all means but Dion really had no choice. Clarkson challenged him for an eternity with no intention of paying attention to the play. It just seems like cut and dry instigating to me. In the end we got the PP so I don't care that much.

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Honestly, please don't ask people to fight your way when you start a fight. Next thing, people would want is, fight by tucking in your arms in your jersey, so I can beat you up. :shakhead
Don't really care whether he takes it off or not but I think you're missing the point.

Its not "Clarkson's way of fighting" .. its the unwritten rule of fighting in the NHL..

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Definitely shoulder to the head, which is what Clarkson probably saw.

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What a joke.

Your calling out Phaneuf, for accepting a challenge after a clean hit, because he fights with his helmet on.

Maybe Clarkson shouldn't have challenged him then?
Yeah he could have skated away there, but he didn't, so if you fight, take off your helmet if you have a visor. It's not a big thing. Nobody forced him to fight, in the end it was his descision so make it a fair fight then

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All I'm saying is he had plenty of opportunity. It's not like he thought he could talk Clarkson out of it. If you're going to go in the end anyway, you may as well take off the visor not delay and then try and surprise Clarkson. It's not up to 'code', but it's not a huge deal either way.

Clarkson doing his job. You can't let Parise take a borderline play like that.
But why does he have to?

It's not like he went looking for a fight, that would be different.

He has no obligation to remove his helmet in a fight started by someone else.

Colton Orr, his teammate, had his career nearly ended because he had his head slammed to the ice after a fight.

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that was a blatant forearm to the face. how is that even a hit btw? talk about a misleading title OP. lord
yea, after watching it a few more times during the break.. I honestly think he gets fined for that.

Pucks already gone, its a completely unnecessary shot to the head. Its not elbowing IMO but that doesn't mean its completely legal either.

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Yeah he could have skated away there, but he didn't, so if you fight, take off your helmet if you have a visor. It's not a big thing. Nobody forced him to fight, in the end it was his descision so make it a fair fight then
So Clarkson came over to him just to chat? Clarkson wanted to fight. If Phaneuf was going after him, okay, but it was the other way around. I wouldn't take my visor off if someone is chasing after me for a fight.

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