Kind of wondering what would have happened if Tortorella was hired as coach when he was available. Where would we be now, what line combinations would he play with our team, given this organization's signed talent (NHL and AHL) who might he be dressing. Also, how would the style of play be different.
Although I can't stand the thought of a Rangers Stanley Cup this year I am a big fan of his coaching. I love the high energy and aggressive head-manning of his teams (similar to how the Canadians played in their glory days).
Though I'd start a thread to start a debate on how we would look if we had pursued him in 2009 to replace Scott Gordon.
Kind of wondering what would have happened if Tortorella was hired as coach when he was available. Where would we be now, what line combinations would he play with our team, given this organization's signed talent (NHL and AHL) who might he be dressing. Also, how would the style of play be different.
Although I can't stand the thought of a Rangers Stanley Cup this year I am a big fan of his coaching. I love the high energy and aggressive head-manning of his teams (similar to how the Canadians played in their glory days).
Though I'd start a thread to start a debate on how we would look if we had pursued him in 2009 to replace Scott Gordon.
Torts IMO is one of the better Coaches out there in the NHL.
He would most likely not mesh well with this Org though. He needs total Control. I am not sure head Coaches get that here. However Torts is a good NHL coach. Do we even have a NHL level Coach ?
I would love to have Tortorella. His team plays physical and hard every single game. I honestly think Capuano is horrible, Weight showed be more in one game than he did all year.
I would love to have Tortorella. His team plays physical and hard every single game. I honestly think Capuano is horrible, Weight showed be more in one game than he did all year.
Of course not...I just liked the fact that he shows emotion out there and is willing to switch up the lines if there clearly not working. I think the players respect him more than Capuano and they will play harder for him imo. The lack of physical play is a problem, Matt Martin and Hamonic are the ONLY players who play physical.
Of course not...I just liked the fact that he shows emotion out there and is willing to switch up the lines if there clearly not working. I think the players respect him more than Capuano and they will play harder for him imo. The lack of physical play is a problem, Matt Martin and Hamonic are the ONLY players who play physical.
Most players will have more Respect for a Former Star player. Then a new coach with No Credentials. The guy is a former player and a Cup winner. He also has 1000 Plus Nhl points. I get he would get respect from almost anyone.
Most players will have more Respect for a Former Star player. Then a new coach with No Credentials. The guy is a former player and a Cup winner. He also has 1000 Plus Nhl points. I get he would get respect from almost anyone.
I highly doubt that means anything when it comes to coaching. Look at all the top coaches in the league right now - Torts, Babcock, Vigneault, Hitchcock, Julien, DeBoer, Laviolette, Trotz... aside from coaching some of the league's best teams, what do all of those guys have in common?
I highly doubt that means anything when it comes to coaching. Look at all the top coaches in the league right now - Torts, Babcock, Vigneault, Hitchcock, Julien, DeBoer, Laviolette, Trotz... aside from coaching some of the league's best teams, what do all of those guys have in common?
Those guys have been around for a few years now. I was comparing our current coach to what we have right now. In terms of respect.
Most players will have more Respect for a Former Star player. Then a new coach with No Credentials. The guy is a former player and a Cup winner. He also has 1000 Plus Nhl points. I get he would get respect from almost anyone.
Kind of like Trottier, but with fewer goals, points, and Stanley Cups. No connection to coaching, just ask Bryan or Butchie.
Even if we ASSUMED that Wang would spend to have Tortorella here in fantasy land...
anyone honestly think he could get this mess to perform 5-10 points better???
We are a low budget team, with poor guidance, player development and constant meddling from the top. Al Arbour couldn't succeed here.
No one center, no one all star defenseman, no one former cup winning coach is going to single-handedly transform this team into a winner no matter how much we speculate and dream.
The wound heals when we do NOT have Wang as owner and everyone from Garth Snow on down to every neophyte under him that's learning on the job at the NHL level is UPGRADED.
Even if we ASSUMED that Wang would spend to have Tortorella here in fantasy land...
anyone honestly think he could get this mess to perform 5-10 points better???
We are a low budget team, with poor guidance, player development and constant meddling from the top. Al Arbour couldn't succeed here.
No one center, no one all star defenseman, no one former cup winning coach is going to single-handedly transform this team into a winner no matter how much we speculate and dream.
The wound heals when we do NOT have Wang as owner and everyone from Garth Snow on down to every neophyte under him that's learning on the job at the NHL level is UPGRADED.
Even if we ASSUMED that Wang would spend to have Tortorella here in fantasy land...
anyone honestly think he could get this mess to perform 5-10 points better???
We are a low budget team, with poor guidance, player development and constant meddling from the top. Al Arbour couldn't succeed here.
No one center, no one all star defenseman, no one former cup winning coach is going to single-handedly transform this team into a winner no matter how much we speculate and dream.
The wound heals when we do NOT have Wang as owner and everyone from Garth Snow on down to every neophyte under him that's learning on the job at the NHL level is UPGRADED.
I think we would be a little better then what we are currently. I do not think the team would sleepwalk through most of the games.
I don't see Tortorella being better then Cap has been for our team, as its constructed right now. Tortorella type of coaches, they coach with a win-now attitude, not really a nurture our younger players and help them grow into good players type of thing. Tortorella would have been a great coach to have when we had guys like Yashin, Peca, Osgood, Hamrlik, Aucion and such. They like to coach veterans, not kids.
I don't see Tortorella being better then Cap has been for our team, as its constructed right now. Tortorella type of coaches, they coach with a win-now attitude, not really a nurture our younger players and help them grow into good players type of thing. Tortorella would have been a great coach to have when we had guys like Yashin, Peca, Osgood, Hamrlik, Aucion and such. They like to coach veterans, not kids.
I recall torts being interviewed for the job that eventually went to Gordon.
He said it wasn't a really good fit for his style of coaching or something of the sort (fill in islanders sux joke here) .
I don't see Tortorella being better then Cap has been for our team, as its constructed right now. Tortorella type of coaches, they coach with a win-now attitude, not really a nurture our younger players and help them grow into good players type of thing. Tortorella would have been a great coach to have when we had guys like Yashin, Peca, Osgood, Hamrlik, Aucion and such. They like to coach veterans, not kids.
Exactly. Give Captain Jack Richards and Gaborik and the rags Dmen and I bet he will all of a sudden become a better coach.
Exactly. Give Captain Jack Richards and Gaborik and the rags Dmen and I bet he will all of a sudden become a better coach.
That can be said for anyone. You do not measure a Coach by what they can do with a Solid Roster. I think you measure then by what they can do with a Piss poor roster. it is all about what you can get from the lower lines. Top players in theory should preform on there own.
I love Torts, but he wouldn't coach this team now and he wouldn't have coached here when we were really in the dumps a few years ago.
I'm still grumpy about how the Rangers were able to bury all of their mistakes over the last few years and turn into a Cup contender. Gomez is terrible? Montreal will take him. Redden not working out? Bury him in Hartford. Coach losing the team? Oh, John Tortorella will take your call now.
I love Torts, but he wouldn't coach this team now and he wouldn't have coached here when we were really in the dumps a few years ago.
I'm still grumpy about how the Rangers were able to bury all of their mistakes over the last few years and turn into a Cup contender. Gomez is terrible? Montreal will take him. Redden not working out? Bury him in Hartford. Coach losing the team? Oh, John Tortorella will take your call now.
islanders coulda easily done all that if the owner wasnt sucha idiot.
That can be said for anyone. You do not measure a Coach by what they can do with a Solid Roster. I think you measure then by what they can do with a Piss poor roster. it is all about what you can get from the lower lines. Top players in theory should preform on there own.
I dunno about this either, look at what Hitchcock did with crap in Columbus vs what he's done with St Louis, or what Torts did with his plummeting roster in Tampa vs the Rags. With very few exceptions, crap teams will be crap no matter how good the coach is.
I love Torts, but he wouldn't coach this team now and he wouldn't have coached here when we were really in the dumps a few years ago.
I'm still grumpy about how the Rangers were able to bury all of their mistakes over the last few years and turn into a Cup contender. Gomez is terrible? Montreal will take him. Redden not working out? Bury him in Hartford. Coach losing the team? Oh, John Tortorella will take your call now.
No one Suggested that we hire torts. THe OP just asked a question about him.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Isles called Torts and he hung up laughing.
This. He wouldn't let Snow and Wang tell him what to do.
i actually think Cappy is okay for a young coach who is nothing but a puppet. He's been begging for some toughness all year and they've give him Reasoner and Rolston.
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