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02-22-2012, 09:45 AM
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I remember the on ice soccer fiasco. it was embarrassing to see as a Hab fan. Being a Hab means honour. What Rib did was classless. I would have taken a 7th rounder for him.

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Wow he's 32 already. Time flies, I still see him as the 22 year old

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Guys...he wasn't faking. It was a pinched nerve.

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He can stay there, he looked stoned last night during the game. He would be a more expensive version of Desharnais.
He looks awful...something is not right there, he looks sick? Or wasted? Glad he is gone...and hopefully will stay away from our younger prospects...

Good player, but no thanks...

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02-22-2012, 10:30 AM
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Mike Ribeiro isn't the same guy at 32 as he was at 22. He's got a lot more heart. He's also a leader that his teammates look up to. He's the kind of player you want on your team.

Except that ship has sailed in Montreal. But painting him with the same brush as 8 years ago is just childish. He's grown a lot.

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02-22-2012, 10:37 AM
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Would love to have him back. Loved him since...


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02-22-2012, 10:38 AM
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What team has Ribiero carried on his back to success. None. Even though he had Richards and Morrow in Dallas, that team went nowhere. In the 6 years he's been gone, he's collected some points, 59, 83, 78, 53, 71, 42 (on pace for 59), but accomplished nothing. Essentially his numbers are a little better than Pleks, but he can't get his team to the playoffs. He is on his way to missing the playoffs for the 4th straight year and prior to that had played 25 games with 20 points.

What exactly is he going to bring to Montreal that we don't already have or will bring us to the next level. I don't see it.

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02-22-2012, 10:42 AM
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Mike Ribeiro isn't the same guy at 32 as he was at 22. He's got a lot more heart. He's also a leader that his teammates look up to. He's the kind of player you want on your team.

Except that ship has sailed in Montreal. But painting him with the same brush as 8 years ago is just childish. He's grown a lot.
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02-22-2012, 10:53 AM
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That classless act stopped an odd-man rush going the other way.
Yeah, it was embarassing to watch.
He did what he had to to win. I rather that than someone who doesn't do everything in their power to ensure victory.
He cheated to win, no ****ing merit in that.

What a great example to give...

I wouldn't touch Ribeiro with a 20 foot pole.

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02-22-2012, 10:58 AM
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What team has Ribiero carried on his back to success. None. Even though he had Richards and Morrow in Dallas, that team went nowhere. In the 6 years he's been gone, he's collected some points, 59, 83, 78, 53, 71, 42 (on pace for 59), but accomplished nothing. Essentially his numbers are a little better than Pleks, but he can't get his team to the playoffs. He is on his way to missing the playoffs for the 4th straight year and prior to that had played 25 games with 20 points.

What exactly is he going to bring to Montreal that we don't already have or will bring us to the next level. I don't see it.
lol @ putting Ribeiro higher than Morrow and Richards. If anything, the Stars were their team and not Ribeiro's.

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Maybe on a discounted contract farewell tour type of business...

I mean MikeyRibs isn't that far from being a part-time player/powerplay specialist. He's not getting any younger. So, I don't care about his character but I'm open to the idea if he's serviceable or useful at all.

Not exactly a building block anymore.... I mean he's more of a luxury. He should go play with some West power house... Van is a good fit.

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I love the guy. He was my favorite player back in the days, despite his faking. I was at the Bell Centre when they announced the trade and remember people being happy which was ridiculous since we got absolutely nothing back.

Now, I wouldn't mind him back but with Desharnais and Plekanec already, there's no place for another 60 pts centre.
At the time, there was a battle to see who should be the team's #1 centre between Ribeiro and Koivu. I assume it was the Koivu fans that were happy when he was traded. The team wasn't big enough for both of them and Ribs was outpacing Koivu so something had to give. Too bad every time Mtl has an issue with a player they give him away for peanuts. That's not how u do business.

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didn't like Ribs back in the day, but he has matured and "fixed" some of the behaviour issues that stunted his development in montreal and led to his departure.


but with DD in place, no need for what he brings.

Prefer Pleks/Eller over Ribs, and at their respective cap hits, DD is far more valuable.

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Mike Ribeiro isn't the same guy at 32 as he was at 22. He's got a lot more heart. He's also a leader that his teammates look up to. He's the kind of player you want on your team.

Except that ship has sailed in Montreal. But painting him with the same brush as 8 years ago is just childish. He's grown a lot.
He may have matured a bit but he still has that annoying smirk when he talks.

That said as a hockey player and playmaker he's OK and would probably be our best center pure offensive center. I'd still pass on him though as it's a case of "been there done that" and that even if he can put up points he's not the type of player we need , both hockey and attitude wise.

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He may have matured a bit but he still has that annoying smirk when he talks.

That said as a hockey player and playmaker he's OK and would probably be our best center pure offensive center. I'd still pass on him though as it's a case of "been there done that" and that even if he can put up points he's not the type of player we need , both hockey and attitude wise.
A smirk . Really.

Bottom line, while Ribeiro is by no means perfect, he's better than any centre currently on the Habs roster and has been for some time.

The trading of Ribeiro and Grabovski were devastating blows to the team in the long term. It weakened the centre position to the point of leading Gainey to the Gomez decision.

But that ship has sailed, the team still needs to overhaul the centre position on this team but not with Ribeiro.

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I wouldn't take Ribs back for free.

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Listening to what he was saying before the game, you could tell he's the same old guy he was when we traded him. No different after his goal celebration or when he came out for his star selection.

He just doesn't have any class and would be a terrible fit on this team. Not to mention his diminished ability and point production. I didn't like him then and I don't like him now. For my money, there's a lot of Bette roptions out there than him.

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Mike Ribeiro isn't the same guy at 32 as he was at 22. He's got a lot more heart. He's also a leader that his teammates look up to. He's the kind of player you want on your team.

Except that ship has sailed in Montreal. But painting him with the same brush as 8 years ago is just childish. He's grown a lot.
Yah, his great leadership, maturity and heart were brought to bare last night after his goal and then again during the 3 stars selection. He appears to be the same petulant child he always was.

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I don't mind the underselling of a problem child here or there. It happens. But it just becomes a bit of a problem when it happens too often. Toss away a Ribeiro, fine, I can see why sometimes it might seem necessary. Free agents walk away too and you end up with nothing to show for them. You can't keep all assets, nor recoup value on all the ones who depart.

But when it becomes a Ribeiro, a Kostitsyn, a Grabovski, a Latendresse... it starts to add up to a bit more of an issue when multiple young "squandered" assets in a relatively short period of time show themselves to have value to their new teams that we have nothing to show for.

I'm not too sure I'd want them all back, mind you. (Although I'm partial to SK and Latendresse, not so much Ribeiro or Grabovski). But it *would* have been nice to at least have something to show for them. Or at least a couple of them.

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I don't mind the underselling of a problem child here or there. It happens. But it just becomes a bit of a problem when it happens too often. Toss away a Ribeiro, fine, I can see why sometimes it might seem necessary. Free agents walk away too and you end up with nothing to show for them. You can't keep all assets, nor recoup value on all the ones who depart.

But when it becomes a Ribeiro, a Kostitsyn, a Grabovski, a Latendresse... it starts to add up to a bit more of an issue when multiple young "squandered" assets in a relatively short period of time show themselves to have value to their new teams that we have nothing to show for.

I'm not too sure I'd want them all back, mind you. (Although I'm partial to SK and Latendresse, not so much Ribeiro or Grabovski). But it *would* have been nice to at least have something to show for them. Or at least a couple of them.
I definitely agree with you on this. We do give up on younger players way too easily.

But Ribeiro... I was fine with that one. It's the only time I can ever remember getting nothing back from an asset and not being upset about it. I'd rather shave my face with a cheese grater than see that guy come back.

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Some pro-scout really dropped the ball on Niniima... I'm pretty sure I even read once Gainey talking about that trade, how they realized Ribeiro had some value and they actually judged Niniima to be equal to it and a fit for their needs. It's not like they had no choice in the matter, or got fleeced, there was a lot of variety on what Ribeiro's return could be and they really judged Nimiima to be of some value. As someone who respects Gainey I just hope it was not him who is responsible for scouting that trade.

That said as others have pointed out it having Ribeiro right now would not make the Habs better since it is debatable what marginal gain there is over Pleks or DD.

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I don't mind the underselling of a problem child here or there. It happens. But it just becomes a bit of a problem when it happens too often. Toss away a Ribeiro, fine, I can see why sometimes it might seem necessary. Free agents walk away too and you end up with nothing to show for them. You can't keep all assets, nor recoup value on all the ones who depart.

But when it becomes a Ribeiro, a Kostitsyn, a Grabovski, a Latendresse... it starts to add up to a bit more of an issue when multiple young "squandered" assets in a relatively short period of time show themselves to have value to their new teams that we have nothing to show for.

I'm not too sure I'd want them all back, mind you. (Although I'm partial to SK and Latendresse, not so much Ribeiro or Grabovski). But it *would* have been nice to at least have something to show for them. Or at least a couple of them.
well Ribs had to go, and while I hated the Lats trade at the time his comments afterwards made me rethink my hate of the trade. I actually felt we got a good return on the Grabo trade, it's just too bad that Lang had to get injured but Pateryn is looking very good at Michigan. Also I wonder if the Kostitsyn trade led to a little pay back via the Gill trade.

Personally I think the problems should be removed from the dressing room even if the return isn't great. It does raise question marks as to why we seem to have so many problems with these draft picks though.

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Some pro-scout really dropped the ball on Niniima... I'm pretty sure I even read once Gainey talking about that trade, how they realized Ribeiro had some value and they actually judged Niniima to be equal to it and a fit for their needs. It's not like they had no choice in the matter, or got fleeced, there was a lot of variety on what Ribeiro's return could be and they really judged Nimiima to be of some value. As someone who respects Gainey I just hope it was not him who is responsible for scouting that trade.

That said as others have pointed out it having Ribeiro right now would not make the Habs better since it is debatable what marginal gain there is over Pleks or DD.
Niinima was a good defensemen in the 1990s. I think their scouting report must have been extremely dated and nobody noticed until training camp! The guy had a couple of injuries and was on the downswing of his career.

I didn't really care they traded Ribs and I don't want him back but its sad we got nothing in exchange.

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I don't mind the underselling of a problem child here or there. It happens. But it just becomes a bit of a problem when it happens too often. Toss away a Ribeiro, fine, I can see why sometimes it might seem necessary. Free agents walk away too and you end up with nothing to show for them. You can't keep all assets, nor recoup value on all the ones who depart.

But when it becomes a Ribeiro, a Kostitsyn, a Grabovski, a Latendresse... it starts to add up to a bit more of an issue when multiple young "squandered" assets in a relatively short period of time show themselves to have value to their new teams that we have nothing to show for.

I'm not too sure I'd want them all back, mind you. (Although I'm partial to SK and Latendresse, not so much Ribeiro or Grabovski). But it *would* have been nice to at least have something to show for them. Or at least a couple of them.
While I do agree that management has a track record of "giving up" much much too soon, not all those players were "squandered".

Ribeiro = massive squander....I mean massive (yes a problem, but we could have gotten more for him)
S Kostitsyn = pretty big squandered piece

Grabovski = Not Squandered (at the time). We got Greg Pateryn and a 2nd back (the 2nd was turned into Lang...but hey, that's a whole other thing)

Latendresse = not squandered (at the time). We got Benoit Pouliot, who, while he had problems at the time, was still seen as a blue chipper who could blow up at any time.......and to be fair, he did.....as in just blew. And also to be fair Lats has become an injury prone player while Pouliot has become an ok 3rd liner on a deep team.

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Latendresse = not squandered (at the time). We got Benoit Pouliot, who, while he had problems at the time, was still seen as a blue chipper who could explode at any time.......and to be fair, he did.....as in just blew. And also to be fair Lats has become an injury prone player while Pouliot has become an ok 3rd liner on a deep team.
Pouliot was a healthy scratch on a lot of nights and had been playing in the A the year prior. That was a brutal deal.

Not that we could've gotten a legit top 6 player for Lats. That's why you don't deal youngsters you feel have a good ceiling, because you'll never get fair value unless they're playing up to their potential.

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