Not really. Good defensive teams limit number of shots on goal over the long haul. Even those teams' goalies still face deflections and screens because it's part of the game. The key is limiting their shots, but the percentage of screened shots/deflected shots/etc. would be pretty even throughout the league.
I think it is pretty safe to say that the Rangers' goalkeepers face fewer screens and deflections and odd man rushes than the Flyers' goalies.
I really think he's bailed out the D a couple times so far...defense has looked like crap.
I thought the Hall goal was worse...both snuck through.
I can't really blame a goalie for giving up a goal from 15 feet out. Sucks that it snuck through...but come on defense...Eberle is way to open( bc of the turnover).
But Bryz made multiple good saves...no offense tonight.
On the Eberle goal? To me it looked like it clearly went glove side and Bryz had 90% of it. It was a rocket from right in front of the net and he got a huge piece. I didn't think either of the goals were 5-hole. First one went off his leg into the net?
Agreed. Instead of taking him off the ice, they should have just sent him in a mad dash up the ice to the other trapezoid. Maybe the fancy black pads would have distracted Dubnyk.
Agreed. Instead of taking him off the ice, they should have just sent him in a mad dash up the ice to the other trapezoid. Maybe the fancy black pads would have distracted Dubnyk.
or maybe let him try to score..
the rest of the ****en team clearly couldnt. hahaahah
The same disussion was made on the Rangers board about Chris Drury and his underwhelming performance as a hockey player. For some reason, some apologist posters considered his contract to be excluded from his performance. It's beyond absurd if you ask me. It's probably beyond absurd if you ask Sather who bought him out, beause you can't stay competitive with a 4th liner earning $7m/ year.
Same for the Flyers. You can't stay competitive with a goalie playing as an average backup with that kind of salary. It's very simple, an albatross player is swallowing resources that could be spent on making the team better elsewhere, thus hurting the competiveness of the team twice over, by both sucking and swallowing precious resources. I've yet to see a sensible argument for disregarding how much a player earns when evaluating his performance.
The difference between a goalie such as Bryzgalov and, say, Henrik Lundqvist, is the level of competiveness and the ability to keep focus.
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Veteran Martin Biron, Lundqvist’s backup, laughed about how Brandon Dubinsky and other Rangers celebrate “like it’s Game 7” when they score on Lundqvist during drills. “Because they know if they got one out of 10 on him, they’re lucky to have gotten one,” Biron said. “It brings everybody to his level.”
Every goalie can play well when in the groove. The tough part is mentally handling when you're struggling and getting back on your feet. Consistency is what's separating a franchise goalie from a good goalie. It's apparently eating Bryzgalov up.
I'm honestly surprised Bryzgalov is struggling so much. It's hard to know how mentally tough a player is, before he's being pressured. Bryzgalov has perhaps not been pressured that much in his career so far and has been kind of protected behind very defense oriented teams.
He will play better, but that's not the question. The question is how consistent he'll be. That contract will probably be a very heavy burden mentally for him when he's struggling (which he seems to try to handle with the "shrug it off" approach instead of confronting it head on, which IMO only prolongs the slump).
first goal no chance. 2nd goal from that close all alone in the slot?. it was a good shot. he looked great. he deserves credit. This is who i thought we were getting. please stay this way.
I really think he's bailed out the D a couple times so far...defense has looked like crap.
I disagree. Eberle was shooting from a prime scoring position on a turnover. Bad goal? I am not blaming Bryzgalov on that one. He did what he could. Effort was there, Ilya showed good reaction and read t eh play well, he almost got it.
I blame idiot Coburn, he can not get the puck out on a simple play.
I disagree. Eberle was shooting from a prime scoring position on a turnover. Bad goal? I am not blaming Bryzgalov on that one. He did what he could. Effort was there, Ilya showed good reaction and read t eh play well, he almost got it.
I blame idiot Coburn, he can not get the puck out on a simple play.
I don't blame coburn really on that turnover. Briere just stood there and let the pass hit off of his skate. He made no attempt to turn and shield the puck whatsoever. Yet another Briere defensive gaff that leads to a goal.
The pass wasnt perfect by any means but Coburn moved the puck up to Briere on a quick play while under a lot of pressure. Winger (not sure why Briere is playing the wingers position here) needs to be stronger on the puck. But Briere is about as limp on the puck as you can find
first goal no chance. 2nd goal from that close all alone in the slot?. it was a good shot. he looked great. he deserves credit. This is who i thought we were getting. please stay this way.
I disagree that he had no chance on the first one. He looked painfully slow getting across on that one. I actually think he should have had it.
I don't blame coburn really on that turnover. Briere just stood there and let the pass hit off of his skate. He made no attempt to turn and shield the puck whatsoever. Yet another Briere defensive gaff that leads to a goal.
The pass wasnt perfect by any means but Coburn moved the puck up to Briere on a quick play while under a lot of pressure. Winger (not sure why Briere is playing the wingers position here) needs to be stronger on the puck. But Briere is about as limp on the puck as you can find
I am surprised more haven't mentioned this. Briere was so soft and useless I blame him totally for that turnover. And Eberle in close like that is going to be a goal on most goalies.
I don't blame coburn really on that turnover. Briere just stood there and let the pass hit off of his skate. He made no attempt to turn and shield the puck whatsoever. Yet another Briere defensive gaff that leads to a goal.
The pass wasnt perfect by any means but Coburn moved the puck up to Briere on a quick play while under a lot of pressure. Winger (not sure why Briere is playing the wingers position here) needs to be stronger on the puck. But Briere is about as limp on the puck as you can find
Yeah, I agree with this as well. Sure, Coburn could have played that better, but most of the blame falls on Brière.
I don't blame coburn really on that turnover. Briere just stood there and let the pass hit off of his skate. He made no attempt to turn and shield the puck whatsoever. Yet another Briere defensive gaff that leads to a goal.
The pass wasnt perfect by any means but Coburn moved the puck up to Briere on a quick play while under a lot of pressure. Winger (not sure why Briere is playing the wingers position here) needs to be stronger on the puck. But Briere is about as limp on the puck as you can find
Pressure? What pressure? I did not see pressure. Whoever was "pressuring" Coburn was on the ice on his stomach trying to poke the puck with his stick.
Coburn did not even have to pass the puck, all he had to do is keep skating instead of passing the puck in Brieres skates. Briere already had a man on him.
..and I am not defending Briere he had a ****** game/season.
Pressure? What pressure? I did not see pressure. Whoever was "pressuring" Coburn was on the ice on his stomach trying to poke the puck with his stick.
Coburn did not even have to pass the puck, all he had to do is keep skating instead of passing the puck in Brieres skates. Briere already had a man on him.
..and I am not defending Briere he had a ****** game/season.
I'd have to watch the replay again but that's not how I remember it unfolding. I think coburn made the right play albeit a poorly placed pass
I don't blame coburn really on that turnover. Briere just stood there and let the pass hit off of his skate. He made no attempt to turn and shield the puck whatsoever. Yet another Briere defensive gaff that leads to a goal.
The pass wasnt perfect by any means but Coburn moved the puck up to Briere on a quick play while under a lot of pressure. Winger (not sure why Briere is playing the wingers position here) needs to be stronger on the puck. But Briere is about as limp on the puck as you can find
I disagree that he had no chance on the first one. He looked painfully slow getting across on that one. I actually think he should have had it.
That said, Bryz absolutely played well last night
He got his body there fine, it just got through. Hall didn't give him any time to set for it. Much like the eberle goal, he gave an attempt and it squeezed through. Sometimes it happens...
