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02-22-2012, 04:18 PM
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this might be the dumbest thing I have ever read. Ok so he got there, but the puck still beat him, obviously making it a bad goal. If he is there in time, down on the ice, he should be able to stop the puck. Obviously he didnt, thus making it a bad goal, which in all reality it really was a poor goal to give up


Didn't you realize it's not the goalie's job to react to where the puck is? He's supposed to get in position, and then hope the shooter snipes his pad.

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Meanwhile our goalie has flat out missed catching a routine shot two games in a row (Staal and Kane). It must be real fun to play in front of a guy who forces you to hold your breath at any puck headed toward the general vicinity of the net.
It must be real fun to play behind a team that forces me to hold my breath wondering who is going to be getting breakaways/wide open layups (pommenville, Ladd) from poor defensive rotation/bad turnovers.

Confidence is a two way street.

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Didn't you realize it's not the goalie's job to react to where the puck is? He's supposed to get in position, and then hope the shooter snipes his pad.
Because a goalie covers every inch of the net...the shooter never has any holes to shoot at....amirite?

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It must be real fun to play behind a team that forces me to hold my breath wondering who is going to be getting breakaways/wide open layups (pommenville, Ladd) from poor defensive rotation/bad turnovers.

Confidence is a two way street.
The bad goals Bryz gives up far out weighs the defensive break downs that give the opposition a sure goal like Pommenville. He needs to make big saves on breakaways that really haven't been there this year. This whole argument has gotten extremely silly

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Because a goalie covers every inch of the net...the shooter never has any holes to shoot at....amirite?
Most starting goalies can move their limbs in a manner which stops the puck from going into an open spot.

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Because a goalie covers every inch of the net...the shooter never has any holes to shoot at....amirite?
Didnt know Bryz's arms were stuck to his body, but hey judging by that 4th goal last night, they might

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didn't let Winnipeg get any real chances.
flat. out. wrong.

of course YOU would claim that the Ladd glove save with 11:39 left and right pad save in OT weren't 'real chances' ....

anything you can do to discredit the good plays that he does make.

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flat. out. wrong.

of course YOU would claim that the Ladd glove save with 11:39 left and right pad save in OT weren't 'real chances' ....

anything you can do to discredit the good plays that he does make.

the true definition of Bash-A-Delphian

you mean the glove save that was going wide of the net?

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Because a goalie covers every inch of the net...the shooter never has any holes to shoot at....amirite?
when G hits the net it's a 'snipe', when Bryz lets in a goal, it's his fault, don't you know these guys think??

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flat. out. wrong.

of course YOU would claim that the Ladd glove save with 11:39 left and right pad save in OT weren't 'real chances' ....

anything you can do to discredit the good plays that he does make.

the true definition of Bash-A-Delphian

You mad Bryz bad?

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The bad goals Bryz gives up far out weighs the defensive break downs that give the opposition a sure goal like Pommenville. He needs to make big saves on breakaways that really haven't been there this year. This whole argument has gotten extremely silly
The argument has been silly for months.

You say make saves.

I say play reliable defense.

The overall point is there is PLENTY of blame to go around.

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flat. out. wrong.

of course YOU would claim that the Ladd glove save with 11:39 left and right pad save in OT weren't 'real chances' ....

anything you can do to discredit the good plays that he does make.

The Ladd shot was pretty clearly going over the net. The OT pad save on Ladd really wasn't as amazing as it was made out to be by Clement. Ladd was being defended, and let a low shot go from the circle. It was a routine save. These aren't things that ONLY I am saying. A whole lot of people have pointed these things out. I guess that makes them part of the Conspiracy.

Are we celebrating routine saves now?

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Because a goalie covers every inch of the net...the shooter never has any holes to shoot at....amirite?
Yep, that's exactly what I said. Or maybe he could lift his pad a quarter of an inch to make a save on a 60 foot slapper in which he wasn't screened.

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The Ladd shot was pretty clearly going over the net. The OT pad save on Ladd really wasn't as amazing as it was made out to be by Clement. Ladd was being defended, and let a low shot go from the circle. It was a routine save. These aren't things that ONLY I am saying. A whole lot of people have pointed these things out. I guess that makes them part of the Conspiracy.

Are we celebrating routine saves now?
Well considering some of them have become goals, the 4th goal last night, we might as well

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The argument has been silly for months.

You say make saves.

I say play reliable defense.

The overall point is there is PLENTY of blame to go around.
Most goalies with ****** defences still post better than 0.898 save percentages in the NHL. If they don't, they find themselves outside of the NHL in short order.

I think Bryz has all of the physical tools to be the guy in Philly. His mental toughness hadn't really been put to the test prior to this season. Now that he's in a pressure cooker, he's stuggling a bit. If he has the same issues next season, we're looking at an albatross contract.

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The argument has been silly for months.

You say make saves.

I say play reliable defense.

The overall point is there is PLENTY of blame to go around.
What was the excuse last night? The D played very well. Had very few breakdowns yet 4 goals were scored.

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The Ladd shot was pretty clearly going over the net. The OT pad save on Ladd really wasn't as amazing as it was made out to be by Clement. Ladd was being defended, and let a low shot go from the circle. It was a routine save. These aren't things that ONLY I am saying. A whole lot of people have pointed these things out. I guess that makes them part of the Conspiracy.

Are we celebrating routine saves now?
Say what you want, it was a nice save by a guy with a real good wrist shot. Call Bryz **** ( which I agree), but comments like this is what BP1974 is arguing with you about. Every fan in the box I was with who were laughing at me for 60 mins straight about his game even gave Bryz credit for that save.

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You may want to watch the shot again. I just did. It's not that great. Hugged the ice from a good distance out, easy pad save. That sort of shot rarely goes in nowadays.

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Are we celebrating routine saves now?
It's kind of like when a ****** middle school CYO basketall player banks in a shot, everyone gets excited and claps. Everyone was expecting Ilya to pull a Bryz and blow it, so when the first shot in OT he faced didn't end up in the back of the net, everyone was happy.

Just what we all hoped for when he was signed.

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You may want to watch the shot again. I just did. It's not that great. Hugged the ice from a good distance out, easy pad save. That sort of shot rarely goes in nowadays.
I watched it live and on PVR, it did look alot better live. Live, Fattys slapper was a rocket too, so I only had a problem with the 4th goal in yesterdays game.

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I watched it live and on PVR, it did look alot better live. Again, live Fattys slapper was a rocket too, so I only had a problem with the 4th goal.
Oh, it was definitely better live. Given the situation and the fact that Bryz hadn't been tested in a while I got pumped for it. But as the emotions faded and I reflected on the plusses and minuses of that game I realized it wasn't as good as I thought it was originally.

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Yep, that's exactly what I said. Or maybe he could lift his pad a quarter of an inch to make a save on a 60 foot slapper in which he wasn't screened.
Except for the screen.

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Except for the screen.
Replay behind the net indicates he wasn't screened.

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Except for the screen.
Are you listening to drunk Coatesy again? Bryz is looking over Ladd's shoulder when the shot's being taken, and Ladd immediately jumps out of the way. Both Byfuglien and the puck were to the right of Coburn (from Bryz's view) and Missgalov flat out whiffs.

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BP74, you are far and away the least objective person on this forum. Possibly on HFBoards.

It's also hilarious that you're calling Sobrien biased. If I'm not mistaken he's given Bryz a lot of benefit of the doubt.
More often than I should, and it's not even winning me the most biased of supporters on here

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exactly.
you didn't watch the actual goal, before claiming that he didn't get the pad down fast enough.

i rest my case.
next time, how about posting about what actually happened.

i don't care what Sobrien has said in the past, he blamed Bryz and invented a reason. if you don't want to call that biased, then substitute 'flat out wrong'
I did watch the goal, I watched it live. I went off that. I recall it going under his pad, which I believe other posters did as well. I don't watch replays of goals after games I'm able to watch live, apparently like some. Accusing me as fabricating a save attempt is ridiculous and makes you look incredibly stupid. He missed the puck because Buff's shot was faster than he was. Simple as that. Would have been the case if it went over his pad, under his pad, passed his glove, off a screen and in...he was too slow.

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