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Vanek for Stastny?

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02-22-2012, 10:37 AM
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Vanek for Stastny?

As the title states, how about a Stastny for Vanek swap? It seems Buffalo is looking for a top C, while the Avs need a top winger. This fills both needs, while dealing from a positions of strength. Salaries are nearly a wash.

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02-22-2012, 10:39 AM
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Not straight up, thanks.

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Colorado has to add

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Sure, I'd do that on a purely value stand point. It does address a need for the teams, although I think Vanek could use a Stastny to play with and vice versa... doh.

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How much do the Avs need to add?

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Sabres pass unless Colorado adds.

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Fair deal. For the guy who said Colorado has to add, what other centers will be available to trade for Vanek that can be that #1 guy?

Vanek's not going to get a Henrik Sedin, Jon Toews, Pavel Datsyuk type of #1 center

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How much do the Avs need to add?
Galiardi and a 1st at minimum

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Seems to me that what Buffalo wants is a quality center to play with Vanek, not a center in exchange for Vanek.

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Fair deal. For the guy who said Colorado has to add, what other centers will be available to trade for Vanek that can be that #1 guy?

Vanek's not going to get a Henrik Sedin, Jon Toews, Pavel Datsyuk type of #1 center
Stastny is a #1 guy, in the same sense that Derek Roy is...

If Vanek is traded, Buffalo should be looking to rebuild, and therefore any return should put as many "potential #1 center" bullets in the chamber as possible.

i.e.

Top center prospects, top end picks

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Fair deal. For the guy who said Colorado has to add, what other centers will be available to trade for Vanek that can be that #1 guy?

Vanek's not going to get a Henrik Sedin, Jon Toews, Pavel Datsyuk type of #1 center
Doesn't mean we're going to trade him for less than he's worth.

The idea behind the proposal is a little flawed I think. Buffalo wants a center to play with Vanek, and I assume Colorado would want a winger to play with Stastny.

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Galiardi and a 1st at minimum
Then it is a no go.

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Galiardi and a 1st at minimum
Yeah, not a chance. Well look elsewhere, thanks. No team is ever going to give up a #1 center, a 1st, plus a good top 9 guy for Vanek.

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Yeah, not a chance. Well look elsewhere, thanks. No team is ever going to give up a #1 center, a 1st, plus a good top 9 guy for Vanek.
We have different definitions of #1 center.

He's the 3rd most valuable center on his own team... a non playoff team...

Vanek has more trade value then Rick Nash IMO

Vanek for a Top 6 Center, a 1st, and a decent NHLer... is a good deal for the team getting Vanek (if they have the center depth to make the move, which Colorado does, and a lot of teams dont)

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We have different definitions of #1 center.

He's the 3rd most valuable center on his own team... a non playoff team...

Vanek has more trade value then Rick Nash IMO

Vanek for a Top 6 Center, a 1st, and a decent NHLer... is a good deal for the team getting Vanek (if they have the center depth to make the move, which Colorado does, and a lot of teams dont)
The other 2 centers are Duchene and O'Reilly so a lot of people would be the 3rd most valuable center on this team. Also it's not like he is the 3rd best center on his team he is the 2nd best this year.

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COL gets:

Stafford
Pysyk

BUF gets:

Stastny
Draft Pick

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We have different definitions of #1 center.

He's the 3rd most valuable center on his own team... a non playoff team...

Vanek has more trade value then Rick Nash IMO

Vanek for a Top 6 Center, a 1st,
and a decent NHLer... is a good deal for the team getting Vanek (if they have the center depth to
make the move, which Colorado does, and a lot of teams dont)
In value, yes. Only because O'Reilly and Duchene have so much potential. He still is our #1 center however, and we value him as such. He'd also be your #1 center. Nice try, but no. The deal you proposed is a #1 center+1st+decent NHLer for Vanek. Sorry, but not happening.

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Galiardi and a 1st at minimum
Lol

I wouldn't do it one-for-one

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COL gets:

Stafford
Pysyk

BUF gets:

Stastny
Draft Pick
No. How about this:
Buffalo gets:
Barrie
Mueller


Avs get:
Vanek
Pick

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We have different definitions of #1 center.

He's the 3rd most valuable center on his own team... a non playoff team...

Vanek has more trade value then Rick Nash IMO

Vanek for a Top 6 Center, a 1st, and a decent NHLer... is a good deal for the team getting Vanek (if they have the center depth to make the move, which Colorado does, and a lot of teams dont)
Lol...way to be objective!!!

Maybe you should trade back for Connolly and then try to convince us that it's a good idea to trade Connolly for Stastny because he would cost less.

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pass for all the obvious reasons including the fact statsny is not a 1C....

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In value, yes. Only because O'Reilly and Duchene have so much potential. He still is our #1 center however, and we value him as such. He'd also be your #1 center. Nice try, but no. The deal you proposed is a #1 center+1st+decent NHLer for Vanek. Sorry, but not happening.
How many #1 centers have a .71 pts per game or lower over the last 2 seasons?

like I said we have different definitions.

A #1 Center on YOUR team, is different then a #1 center in trade

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Lol...way to be objective!!!

Maybe you should trade back for Connolly and then try to convince us that it's a good idea to trade Connolly for Stastny because he would cost less.
i dont know what any of that was supposed to mean.

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How about..

To Avalanche
- Vanek

To Buffalo
- Stastny
- 2013 first

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Why would the Avs trade their top 6 center for a winger who is struggling and a defenseman which they have a plethora of.
I just think Staff needs a change of scenery. Loads of talent, his problem's between his ears.

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