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02-23-2012, 10:40 AM
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right, all the Hawks have is these 5 prospects

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Not for Visnovsky.
I wouldn't rule out him being a piece in a potential trade. There would have to be another big asset in there, however.

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You are dreaming if you want a guy like McNeill back

pretty sure he meant no way to McNeill
Well, I can understand his confusion when somebody's willing to move the next 1st rounder, but under no circumstances would trade the team's last 1st rounder. The prospects a team already has are always a lot higher regarded than the ones not drafted, yet, in the eyes of fans.

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I'd like it as long as McNeill, Saad, Olsen, Hayes or Krüger isn't part of the deal
No idea how you would want to realistically even start bidding on a guy like Visnovsky with such untouchables. The only centerpiece that I could see Murray being interested in for Vis could be Bolland, but I have no idea how he has been this year, other than his numbers.

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or you come down to earth...

Hawks won't trade the Top Prospects away this year. No reason to do it as of now.
Lubo is on a great contract for us next year and is one of the best offensive Dmen in the league. We aren't going to give him away for scraps. The offer would have to be something along the lines of your 2012 1st + McNeil for it to even be considered. Murray has said he wants players over picks though so chances are he would ask for Saad + McNeil.

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right, all the Hawks have is these 5 prospects
So, what the hell are you offering? Are we getting Sharp, Leddy, or Hjalmarsson? Or is it the Chicago-special of Frolik and spare parts?

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I wouldn't rule out him being a piece in a potential trade. There would have to be another big asset in there, however.
I meant that I don't think that straight up or with a pick or two would get it done.

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A second and a prospect like Ben Smith/Andrew Shaw?

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I meant that I don't think that straight up or with a pick or two would get it done.
If it's their first two picks, I am going to start thinking about it, but I get what you're saying and I agree.

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The Ducks don't need to trade either of those two, and if we win our next two games, I seriously doubt either goes anywhere. Lydman is going to cost at least what Gill got, but probably more. Lubo is going to cost at least
2-3 times as much. Top prospect + 1st at least. His value to our team is too high, and even Lebrun said if he goes the price will be very steep due to the bargain he's on next season. If Chicago doesn't ante up for Lubo, someone else will. If not, we will keep him at his low salary next year, no problem.

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Saad + 2012 1st for *Edit: Vish (not Lydman) seems even for both sides.


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The Ducks don't need to trade either of those two, and if we win our next two games, I seriously doubt either goes anywhere. Lydman is going to cost at least what Gill got, but probably more. Lubo is going to cost at least
2-3 times as much. Top prospect + 1st at least. His value to our team is too high, and even Lebrun said if he goes the price will be very steep due to the bargain he's on next season. If Chicago doesn't ante up for Lubo, someone else will. If not, we will keep him at his low salary next year, no problem.
I'm still holding out hope that something can be worked out with the Devils. They're a perfect fit.

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Saad + 2012 1st for Lydman seems even for both sides.
That would easily get it done.

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Saad + 2012 1st for Lydman seems even for both sides.
You're seriously a Hawks fan?

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That would easily get it done.
That'd easily get it done for Visnovsky. That's outright theft.

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02-23-2012, 10:54 AM
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Saad + 2012 1st for Lydman seems even for both sides.
no way!

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That'd easily get it done for Visnovsky. That's outright theft.
I don't know about easily, or theft. It's in line with the return for Kaberle, and Visnovsky is better and is signed for another year on a great contract.

I didn't think it was serious for Lydman, anyway.

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That'd easily get it done for Visnovsky. That's outright theft.
I wouldn't bank on that. That tears open a massive hole in our team to add at a position that isn't needed. I don't expect to land Saad for Lydman, but at least if we did, we're just losing a spare top 4 defenseman. Visnovsky on the other hand is an essential part of our blue line.

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frolik + pirri + first
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visnovksy + third

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I'd hope Murray looks elsewhere, but who knows.

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I don't know about easily, or theft. It's in line with the return for Kaberle, and Visnovsky is better and is signed for another year on a great contract.

I didn't think it was serious for Lydman, anyway.
I was referring to theft in terms of the price of Lydman.

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they wouldn't do that for Pirri + 1st, let alone add Frolik which makes it worse for Anaheim.

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frolik + pirri + first
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visnovksy + third
Would change the third to a fifth or sixth, but that seems close.

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I was referring to theft in terms of the price of Lydman.
Ah, alright. That's nothing I can disagree with.

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they wouldn't do that for Pirri + 1st, let alone add Frolik which makes it worse for Anaheim.
I agree, and would hope (and believe) that Murray would, too. The value of a 1st+Pirri he would most likely rather have come back in form of a good young player.

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What would Anaheim have to add to land Mark McNeill? I think he would be Murray's target.

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Not for Visnovsky.
Well, he would be a piece. probably something like Raymond + 1st + Schroeder?

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