Just have the Sharks trade someone with an NHL contract to Rangers for Avery. If Avery doesn't clear re-entry waivers, then in that case, Sharks are the ones taking that small chance of having to eat a few hundred thousand in cap hit for a player that never suits for the Sharks just for the rest of this season. I know the Sharks may not do this, but why wouldn't the Rangers? They lose nothing and rid themselves of someone they don't want. If a pick is needed, Sharks can throw in a (conditional) 7th.
NHL Head Coaches are, by and large, vastly overrated, especially when correlating the success and failure of the team to coaching prowess. Todd McLellan is the epitome of this.
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Who on the Calgary team is similiar to Brandon Prust. Lets trade Avery to someone like Prust so we can rip them off again likie when we sent them Kotalik and Higgins. Jokinen was the big part of the deal but Prust was the best part of the deal
Last year the Sharks played Ben Eager which single handidly cost them a game in the WCF.
I don't think Avery will have the same influence but I don't get why they would risk it.
In 06, a Raffi Torres elbow on Michalek probably cost the Sharks the series vs. EDM. Torres helped the Sharks to lose the WCF last year. Those types of players do have value, and the Sharks don't have one. Eager is certifiably crazy, but Sean Avery is a better player and can draw penalties.
Well, last year the Sharks had a guy who did a masterful job of getting under Vancouver's skin in previous years. Name was Ben Eager. Look how well that one worked out.
I can see why they'd think Avery might be an idea, but that can blow up in their faces very badly. Sure, they could just do what the Rangers did and dump him in the minors but by then he might have already ruined morale in the dressing room.
Go for it, Sharks!
How would it ruin morale? If he was too much of a jackass and got sent down, everyone would band together in his absence. Like when the idiot at the party goes home and everyone lets out a sigh of relief. Maybe people would get pissed at him, but then getting him outta there would fix that. Like someone else said, it would be a low risk/potentially high reward move. The Sharks could definitely use a pest.
Any player who was subject to waivers before assignment to the minors must clear re-entry waivers before being called back up if said player is on a one-way contract. So yes he would need to go through re-entry.
Waivers has nothing to do with whether the player is on a 1-way or 2-way contract.
13.4 Exempt Players. Players who meet the criteria set forth below are exempt from Regular and Re-Entry-Waivers:
Years from Signing-NHL
NHL Games Played
Years from Signing-NHL
NHL Games Played
As used above, NHL Games include NHL Regular Season and NHL Playoff Games.
The exemption from Regular and Re-Entry Waivers ends immediately upon a Player playing in the number of NHL Games set forth in the applicable column above.
For purposes of Regular Waivers and Re-Entry Waivers, the five (5) year exemption for an 18 year old skater and the four (4) year exemption for a 19 year old skater shall both be reduced to three (3) years commencing the first season that the 18 or 19 year old skater plays in eleven (11) NHL Games or more. The next two (2) seasons, regardless of whether the skater plays any NHL Games in either season, shall count as the second and third years toward satisfying the exemption.
For purposes of Regular Waivers and Re-Entry Waivers, the six (6) year exemption for an 18 year old goalie and the five (5) year exemption for a 19 year old goalie shall both be reduced to four (4) years commencing the first season that the 18 or 19 year old goalie plays in eleven (11) NHL Games or more. The next three (3) seasons, regardless of whether the goalie plays any NHL Games in any of those three (3) seasons, shall count as the next three (3) years toward satisfying the exemption.
The first season in which a Player who is age 20 or older plays in one (1) or more Professional Games shall constitute the first year for calculating the number of years he is exempt from Regular Waivers and Re-Entry Waivers.
A Player 25 years old or older who plays in one (1) or more Professional Games in any season shall be exempt from Regular Waivers and Re-Entry Waivers for the remainder of that season.
For Players age 20 or older, Professional Games include NHL Games, all minor league regular season and playoff games and any other professional games, including but not limited to, play in European leagues when Player is on Loan to such club, and while Player is party to an SPC.
Yeah, it's confusing lol. The CBA has examples that might make it clearer.
If Avery is placed on re-entry waivers and he is not claimed, both the Rangers and the Stars are on the hook for half his cap hit: $1,937,500.
If Avery is placed on re-entry waivers and claimed by another team, the Stars would be on the hook for half his cap hit. The Rangers and the claiming team would be responsible for 1/4 each.
The Rangers could trade Avery for a conditional pick, with the condition that he makes it through waivers. SJ would then have to place Avery on re-entry. If he gets claimed, the Rangers get nothing and SJ takes on 1/4 of Avery's cap hit.
you want him? Please take him. It's not like he's doing anything for us anyway.
If it's the Avery that actually wants to play then yes. If it's the actual Avery that plays with no heart anymore cause all he cares about is keeping his name relevant for his modeling and clothing line then no thanks.
He is exactly what we need when he puts in the effort but everyone knows he doesn't give 100% anymore.
The big problem here is if the Sharks were interested, they would be pushing the Rangers to put him on Re-Entry Waivers so they could claim him at half price because if they traded an asset to acquire him and then he didn't clear Re-Entrys they would lose him and said asset for nothing. But the Rangers will be pushing for a trade so they don't have to have any of his salary on the books. Possibly, the Rangers could look to make a deal with a non-playoff team skirting the bottom of the salary floor (Carolina, for instance) to take Avery off their hands for a rental, then put Avery on Re-Entry for the Sharks, or whomever else to claim. That might be the most likely scenario.
1 2nd rounder for avery will do.maybe a 3rd....But I am a fan of his,the jkid when you let avery be avery is effective.he can play hockey would be nice in SJ and a big help.
Why would NYR feel compelled to bring up Avery though? It wouldn't really cost them much cap wise if he was picked up since there are only 22 games left. I know this has been discussed before, but would three teams be paying his salary or would it just be the Rangers and San Jose?