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02-22-2012, 08:14 PM
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If Alexander Radulov...(Edit: effect on KHL if he returns to NHL)

...returns to the NHL next season; as he has apparently been quoted as saying in the Russian magazine "sport express", would it have a serious negative impact on the KHL?

The Montreal Canadiens are rumoured to be willing to make a trade with Nashville to obtain his NHL rights.


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As much as I don't like some of his actions, I hope Radu stays for another year.

If he leaves KHL will lose not only a great player, but also a newsmaker (highlight plays, wacky celebrations, furious frustration).

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the door is that way!

spoiled, stagnated in his development primadona.

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the door is that way!

spoiled, stagnated in his development primadona.
washington trades alex ovechkins contract to salavat straight up for radulovs contract

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Who can fill the promotional void left left by Radulov?

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...returns to the NHL next season; as he has apparently been quoted as saying in the Russian magazine "sport express", would it have a serious negative impact on the KHL?

The Montreal Canadiens are rumoured to be willing to make a trade with Nashville to obtain his NHL rights.
It appears that he didn't exactly want to play for one of Nashville (his original NHL team) or Colorado...

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Who can fill the promotional void left left by Radulov?



It appears that he didn't exactly want to play for one of Nashville (his original NHL team) or Colorado...
where does colorado fit in this?

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To be fair whats left for him to do in the KHL, 2 mvp's, 2 scoring titles probably, won the gagaring cup, set the record for assists and points.

It would be more important for the KHL if a young promising star like Kuznetsov decides to continue his career in the KHL.

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To be fair whats left for him to do in the KHL, 2 mvp's, 2 scoring titles probably, won the gagaring cup, set the record for assists and points.

It would be more important for the KHL if a young promising star like Kuznetsov decides to continue his career in the KHL.
Yeah, if Radu leaves for NHL but Kuznetsov stays KHL I think it's ok for KHL.

Semin to KHL?

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...returns to the NHL next season; as he has apparently been quoted as saying in the Russian magazine "sport express", would it have a serious negative impact on the KHL?

The Montreal Canadiens are rumoured to be willing to make a trade with Nashville to obtain his NHL rights.
Radulov is a very good player, but far from a superstar, and if he left the KHL, the effect would primarily be on his club team, Salavat. The KHL will either continue to grow in depth, talent, and fan interest or not, but if not, it won't be because of Radulov's departure. My guess is that an NHL team that picked him up would keep a very wary eye on him - his behavior has been too unpredictable in the past (check with the Nashville Predators on that).

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wouldn't Radulov have to play his rookie contract out? I highly doubt he will be happy to get paid this little...

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If the KHL is to lose all of Radulov, Kuznetsov and Tarasenko it will be a blow to the league. They are the three best Russian forwards in the KHL. They will be impossible to replace.

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Not impossible, the next wave of guys will emerge - Prohorkin, Kucherov, Gusev, Slepyshev, Nicushkin etc..

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Not impossible, the next wave of guys will emerge - Prohorkin, Kucherov, Gusev, Slepyshev, Nicushkin etc..
Well, it will be impossible. They will not be able to replace Radulov, Kuznetsov and Tarasenko next season. And if they will eventually reach their level they will be gone for the NHL.

Radulov has been the lone exception (along with Jagr) so far as a player clearly good enough to play in the NHL but choosing to play in Russia. If Radulov, Kuznetsov and Tarasenko leave next year there will be nobody left with that kind of star value.

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Well, it will be impossible. They will not be able to replace Radulov, Kuznetsov and Tarasenko next season. And if they will eventually reach their level they will be gone for the NHL.

Radulov has been the lone exception (along with Jagr) so far as a player clearly good enough to play in the NHL but choosing to play in Russia. If Radulov, Kuznetsov and Tarasenko leave next year there will be nobody left with that kind of star value.
that list is a bit bigger, those guys are the most marketable, but guys like morozov and afinogenov can very much so play at the nhl level still

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...returns to the NHL next season; as he has apparently been quoted as saying in the Russian magazine "sport express", would it have a serious negative impact on the KHL?

The Montreal Canadiens are rumoured to be willing to make a trade with Nashville to obtain his NHL rights.
Radulov has been asked if he wanted his rights traded and he said "No, I want to play for Nashville". Also, he just refinanced his house in Nashville and his parents were in Nashville watching the Preds a little while back. Keep dreaming.

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Radulov has been asked if he wanted his rights traded and he said "No, I want to play for Nashville". Also, he just refinanced his house in Nashville and his parents were in Nashville watching the Preds a little while back. Keep dreaming.
http://www.cjad.com/Blog/HabsNews/bl...tryID=10351823

"..........Rumours have the Canadiens dealing Andrei K and a defenseman for Alexander Radulov, the former Jean Beliveau Trophy winner as a member of the Quebec Remparts...
.. CJAD and Sports Illustrated's Mike Farber..."

A number of french language sources are also on board, including the one here:

http://fr.canoe.ca/sports/nouvelles/...23-145541.html


I'm not sure "dreaming" is the appropriate term.


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Radulov has been asked if he wanted his rights traded and he said "No, I want to play for Nashville". Also, he just refinanced his house in Nashville and his parents were in Nashville watching the Preds a little while back. Keep dreaming.
If he's getting traded, it will be after he plays his last ELC year out.

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http://www.cjad.com/Blog/HabsNews/bl...tryID=10351823

"..........Rumours have the Canadiens dealing Andrei K and a defenseman for Alexander Radulov, the former Jean Beliveau Trophy winner as a member of the Quebec Remparts...
.. CJAD and Sports Illustrated's Mike Farber..."

A number of french language sources are also on board, including the one here:

http://fr.canoe.ca/sports/nouvelles/...23-145541.html


I'm not sure "dreaming" is the appropriate term.
His future in Nashville is getting more uncertain by the day.

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Radulov has been asked if he wanted his rights traded and he said "No, I want to play for Nashville". Also, he just refinanced his house in Nashville and his parents were in Nashville watching the Preds a little while back. Keep dreaming.
I was remiss in my previous reply when I failed to mention that Mike Fisher and Carrie Underwood were planning their dream house around Ottawa about 6 months before he was traded to the Predators.

The point being that housing considerations aren't much of an obstacle to a move for professional athletes.

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Well, it will be impossible. They will not be able to replace Radulov, Kuznetsov and Tarasenko next season. And if they will eventually reach their level they will be gone for the NHL.

Radulov has been the lone exception (along with Jagr) so far as a player clearly good enough to play in the NHL but choosing to play in Russia. If Radulov, Kuznetsov and Tarasenko leave next year there will be nobody left with that kind of star value.
Maybe they won't replace them next season, but soon enough. Russia continues to produce superior quality players, not necessarily every year, but at least every few years. This will be a problem for the KHL as long as there is an imbalance in the quality of the leagues, but Russia is a huge country that has a lot of undeveloped talent. KHL money will be an impetus to develop that talent.

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Maybe they won't replace them next season, but soon enough. Russia continues to produce superior quality players, not necessarily every year, but at least every few years. This will be a problem for the KHL as long as there is an imbalance in the quality of the leagues, but Russia is a huge country that has a lot of undeveloped talent. KHL money will be an impetus to develop that talent.
I totally agree with you.

Can you imagine how much more entertaining the KHL could be starting next year, merely by latching onto Nail Yakupov and Mikhail Grigorenko?

I suspect once 1 or 2 high end talents such as those chooses to play in the KHL, a bit of a snowball effect will occur, whereby more top tier Russians will want to play in the KHL.

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http://www.cjad.com/Blog/HabsNews/bl...tryID=10351823

"..........Rumours have the Canadiens dealing Andrei K and a defenseman for Alexander Radulov, the former Jean Beliveau Trophy winner as a member of the Quebec Remparts...
.. CJAD and Sports Illustrated's Mike Farber..."

A number of french language sources are also on board, including the one here:

http://fr.canoe.ca/sports/nouvelles/...23-145541.html


I'm not sure "dreaming" is the appropriate term.
how'd that dream work out for ya?

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how'd that dream work out for ya?
I was only drawing attention to what was being said on that subject in the French and English media.

If anybody was indeed "dreaming" it wasn't me. I'm not even a Habs fan.

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that list is a bit bigger, those guys are the most marketable, but guys like morozov and afinogenov can very much so play at the nhl level still
You are right, this guy is mistaken. There are many more guys who have walked away from opportunities at the NHL. Some lesser known like Svitov who walked away after playing and even signing a new contract, some like Parshin who the Avs tried aggressively to get over but could never get to sign. Some like Dalman who says he was offered 1-way NHL contract but was comfprtable in Astana. So many more....
Also, when Malkin left no one thought Russian league would see a star like Malkin after he left... Then came Kuznetsov. This is the way of things. There will always be a new young star. They will stay for a while then leave maybe, so what. Enjoy the guy for 4-5 years.

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I was only drawing attention to what was being said on that subject in the French and English media.

If anybody was indeed "dreaming" it wasn't me. I'm not even a Habs fan.
I was only kidding anyways. That was what was said early on on the trade and I'm glad we kept his rights.

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I totally agree with you.

Can you imagine how much more entertaining the KHL could be starting next year, merely by latching onto Nail Yakupov and Mikhail Grigorenko?

I suspect once 1 or 2 high end talents such as those chooses to play in the KHL, a bit of a snowball effect will occur, whereby more top tier Russians will want to play in the KHL.
I think you are right. There will eventually be reverse movement of Russian players going from the NHL to the KHL. Not just the guys near retirement age, but younger guys who for a variety of reasons will decide to return to Russia. If the KHL really grows and improves, the attraction will grow greater. A number of Russian players who have been in the NHL for years (e.g., Datsyuk, Malkin) hardly speak a word of English, so their ability to be integrated into Canadian or US society is very limited.

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