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02-23-2012, 08:44 PM
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If the Carter deal goes down as expected.

To LA:
Carter

To Columbus:
Johnson
1st pick

and then I like to see these trades

To LA
JVR

To Philly
Bernier

Penner
Stoll
for 2nd round picks each

To LA
Moen

To Habs
Richardson and a 3rd pick
Don't forget Penner for Stamkos.

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Hope Richards turns it on.

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02-23-2012, 08:45 PM
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I hope Carter just shoots like nuts. We'll see. Carter is going a happy dance in his living room right now.

What number does Carter wear here? He was #7 in CBJ and Philly right? That's Scuds' number.
17 in Philly. He'll take Lubo's number.

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I wouldnt be surprised if Columbus spins JJ off somewhere for another pick.

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I hope Carter just shoots like nuts. We'll see. Carter is going a happy dance in his living room right now.

What number does Carter wear here? He was #7 in CBJ and Philly right? That's Scuds' number.
He was 17 in Philly.

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Hopefully the buds can tear up being together again. Not mad at the value to say anything

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Hope Richards turns it on.

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Nope, not until Monday.
Kings still have too many players to call him up

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Pretty steep for Carter with the number 1 draft pick and Johnson- TSN reporting that Dustin Brown is also in play?

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Columbus needs goaltending. I"m surprised they didn't ask for Bernier instead of JJ.

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Essentially Kings traded two 1st's, a 2nd, Schenn, Teubert, Simmonds and Jack Johnson for Richards, Carter, and Penner.

How can anyone like that?
i think you have to add Grossman in there too. LA traded a 2nd to Philly, which Philly used to get Grossman. so it's...

two 1st's, a 2nd, Schenn, Teubert, Simmonds, Grossman and Jack Johnson for Richards, Carter, and Penner.

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I love it. Come at me bro
When it's spread out like that, it looks really bad..
If the penner deal was never made it would look a hell of a lot better.

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He was 17 in Philly.
Carter wore number 7 in the Soo and in the World Juniors, I believe.

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17 in Philly. He'll take Lubo's number.
Simmonds

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And most of them never do.

The Kings forward lines are very depleted and lacking depth RIGHT NOW, and that's one of the primary reasons they're not scoring.

Nearly all our production has come from Kopitar, Willliams, Brown and Richards. There's no secondary scoring here. Statistically speaking, the Kings production has come from a smaller percentage of players than nearly any other team in the league; that's the very definition of lacking depth.

It's not about injuries or "what ifs" or "former scorers"; the lineup the Kings are icing RIGHT NOW is very shallow, and they're playing a system that is conducive to offensive production.
How can you judge a team, entering the season, based on anything but past performance?

Stoll had 20 goals last year playing under TM. It's fair to assume you'll get that same production next season. We haven't. When you have one link in the chain like that disintegrate, it means everyone else has to pick up the slack, and they haven't. Most everyone on this team, save for Kopitar really, is on pace for fewer goals than last year. That's a collective failure which I think has less to do with talent than you're implying.

This team lacks scoring until they start scoring. If they start scoring, everything will be well again. Unless the defense falls apart. Then the posts about defense will outnumber the posts about offense ten to one and we'll be back to talking about firing the GM and the coach and trades and etc. all over again. It's just such a cyclical thing. Goaltending was this team's Achilles heel for decades and now it's not a concern. One day, it might be again. Every team, save for maybe the two Cup finalists, has some kind of weakness. Our weakness is goal-scoring. DL is trying to address it by bringing in a top talent without trading away a forward, easing the load on everyone up front. What more can he do?

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Carter better score 3 goals on Saturday

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Telos, what's the rumor on the other deals....Matt Barry is saying Penner and Brown next to go as well.

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Good trade, fills a need. Jack will be replaced and potentially upgraded with Voynov. Voynov is just as good as Jack offensively and it would be hard to say that his defense is any worse (i personally think he is better on offense and defense but we have a limited sample size).

We picked up two top six forwards in the past two years, we gave up nice assets but I think they were the right moves

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Hopefully penner gets us a couple of draft picks... to balance it back... hopefully Gagne returns...

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I still associate it with Lubo

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The first round pick is conditional, but it seems like no matter what we will probably lose this year's pick.

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Telos, what's the rumor on the other deals....Matt Barry is saying Penner and Brown next to go as well.
Everyone is saying Brown is in play. If McKenzie says it, it's undoubtedly true.

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i just hope he does better than the last carter the Kings got

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The first round pick is conditional!
pray we make the PO or this will be a very boring (kingless) draft.

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Essentially Kings traded two 1st's, a 2nd, Schenn, Teubert, Simmonds and Jack Johnson for Richards, Carter, and Penner.

How can anyone like that?
I am with you, I dont like it. I want dean gone. I just dont see this team being successful. I really hope I am wrong, and would love to have to eat my words when all is said and done, but this feels like nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction from a desperate GM

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