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02-24-2012, 11:37 AM
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What about putting together a list of things you'd want from the teams being rumored? (i'm bored)

BOS: Lucic, 1st
BUF: Pominville, 1st
EDM: 1st, one of young guns
NJD: Nothing of interest because Parise is expiring
NYR: Callahan, 1st or Gaborik.
PHI: JVR, 1st, +
TOR: Schenn, 1st, +
VAN: Raymond, Hodgson, 1st

Mind you, some of these are just starting points.

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02-24-2012, 11:41 AM
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What about putting together a list of things you'd want from the teams being rumored? (i'm bored)

BOS: Lucic, 1st
BUF: Pominville, 1st
EDM: 1st, one of young guns
NJD: Nothing of interest because Parise is expiring
NYR: Callahan, 1st or Gaborik.
PHI: JVR, 1st, +
TOR: Schenn, 1st, +
VAN: Raymond, Hodgson, 1st

Mind you, some of these are just starting points.
Don't think Brown fetches any of those packages.

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02-24-2012, 11:44 AM
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Don't think Brown fetches any of those packages.
Then he isn't going anywhere.

It's gonna take a hell of a lot. Not as though he is expiring.

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02-24-2012, 11:44 AM
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The Kings won't be getting Lucic, Pominville, or Callahan straight up for Dustin Brown.

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What about putting together a list of things you'd want from the teams being rumored? (i'm bored)

BOS: Lucic, 1st
BUF: Pominville, 1st
EDM: 1st, one of young guns
NJD: Nothing of interest because Parise is expiring
NYR: Callahan, 1st or Gaborik.
PHI: JVR, 1st, +
TOR: Schenn, 1st, +
VAN: Raymond, Hodgson, 1st

Mind you, some of these are just starting points.
When you say starting point, you mean the Kings are adding, right? Pretty unrealistic otherwise.

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02-24-2012, 11:45 AM
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When you say starting point, you mean the Kings are adding, right? Pretty unrealistic otherwise.
In some of them yes.

Keep in mind its 9:45 on the west coast.

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02-24-2012, 11:46 AM
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Then he isn't going anywhere.

It's gonna take a hell of a lot. Not as though he is expiring.
A good portion of those deals you listed had a player that was better than Brown and then you still want a 1st added onto that?

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What about Kyle Okposo + 1st?

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02-24-2012, 11:48 AM
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A good portion of those deals you listed had a player that was better than Brown and then you still want a 1st added onto that?
That's an assumption based on the fact that they had no 1st last year and likely traded this years yesterday.

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02-24-2012, 11:49 AM
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From Barry
Interesting.

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02-24-2012, 11:50 AM
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To LA:
Yevgeni Kuznetsov
2012 1st Round Pick


To Washington
Dustin Brown

or

To LA:
Magnus Paajarv Svenson
2012 1st Round pick (2nd overall)


To Edmonton:
Dustin Brown
Jonathan Bernier
Are you serious? Brown/Bernier doesn't come close to fetching either of those deals.

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When Quick is signed then Bernier can be traded.. But he needs Bernier to give him some leverage in the negotiations with Quick, or at least a fall back if things go south.
Bernier does not give the Kings leverage against Quick. He gives them a good backup plan in case Quick elects to go to UFA, but he does not help the Kings in the negotiations with Quick.

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02-24-2012, 11:55 AM
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That's an is an assumption based on the fact that they had no 1st last year and likely traded this years yesterday.
Understandable that you guys would want a 1st but you can't have a 1st while still getting players such as Lucic(better than Brown and much younger), Callahan(NYR captain and arguably just as good if not better than Brown), Pomminville is a proven offensive player and their 1st should be in the top 10. Only deals in there that seem realistic are the ones built around Schenn and JVR and if those teams are adding first round picks, the Kings would have to add as well. You'll be greatly disappointed if you are expecting any of those returns.

Not to mention Gaborik. Are you serious? Also the EDM deal. You want a top 2 pick in next years draft plus one of the young guns? I am assuming you mean Hall,Eberle, or RNH and that is a joke if you honestly believe you would recieve that for Brown.

And while Brown is your captain, half those players you're asking for are captains/future captains.

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Wouldn't mind seeing us try and get Evander Kane and Enstrom from the Jets. We need speed on the wing.

To Wpg:
Brown
Stoll
AMart
Prospect (Vey?)

To LA:
Kane
Enstrom
Kulda

I doubt the Jets would do it, but it's fun to throw stuff out there. I love this time of the year.
There's only ONE reason I don't want to deal with the Jets...and that's the possibility of a "defenseman" who should never be seen again in a Kings jersey coming back...

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02-24-2012, 11:57 AM
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Matt Frattin lmao? We need help now, not in the next 2 years
He may have had the Dustin part right...but are you SURE he didn't mean PENNER for that package???

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02-24-2012, 11:59 AM
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Understandable that you guys would want a 1st but you can't have a 1st while still getting players such as Lucic(better than Brown and much younger), Callahan(NYR captain and arguably just as good if not better than Brown), Pomminville is a proven offensive player and their 1st should be in the top 10. Only deals in there that seem realistic are the ones built around Schenn and JVR and if those teams are adding first round picks, the Kings would have to add as well. You'll be greatly disappointed if you are expecting any of those returns.

Not to mention Gaborik. Are you serious? Also the EDM deal. You want a top 2 pick in next years draft plus one of the young guns? I am assuming you mean Hall,Eberle, or RNH and that is a joke if you honestly believe you would recieve that for Brown.

And while Brown is your captain, half those players you're asking for are captains/future captains.
Oh I agree, I wouldn't make any of those deals (except PHI and TOR) from the other side. But here's the thing, they don't have to move him. So really its gross overpayment or nothing IMO.

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02-24-2012, 12:02 PM
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Are you serious? Brown/Bernier doesn't come close to fetching either of those deals.



Bernier does not give the Kings leverage against Quick. He gives them a good backup plan in case Quick elects to go to UFA, but he does not help the Kings in the negotiations with Quick.
I do not want to trade Brown at all for almost anybody but if we are goign to I htink that Washington makes good sense.
TO: Washington
Brown, Hickey.
TO: LA
Semin, Alzner, Joel Ward, 2nd round pick

THis would finally correct our drafting of Hickey, and would give us a godo LW.

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02-24-2012, 12:07 PM
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I do not want to trade Brown at all for almost anybody but if we are goign to I htink that Washington makes good sense.
TO: Washington
Brown, Hickey.
TO: LA
Semin, Alzner, Joel Ward, 2nd round pick

THis would finally correct our drafting of Hickey, and would give us a godo LW.
Semin is unrestricted this summer. Brown isn't going to be dealt for anyone that could leave in July.

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02-24-2012, 12:09 PM
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Semin is unrestricted this summer. Brown isn't going to be dealt for anyone that could leave in July.
Ya I know, what if you change the 2nd to a condition al 1st in 2013 if he does not resign, if he does than it becomes a 2nd.

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02-24-2012, 12:10 PM
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Oh I agree, I wouldn't make any of those deals (except PHI and TOR) from the other side. But here's the thing, they don't have to move him. So really its gross overpayment or nothing IMO.
It seems as if the Kings are shopping Brown and want him out so Richards can get the C.

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02-24-2012, 12:11 PM
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To LA:
MacArthur
Schenn
Kadri

To TOR:
Bernier
Brown

Maybe? It seems that Leaf fans are tossing Kadri & Schenn around pretty easily, I don't know how they're doing this year but I'd take that for Brown + JB.

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To LA:
MacArthur
Schenn
Kadri

To TOR:
Bernier
Brown

Maybe? It seems that Leaf fans are tossing Kadri & Schenn around pretty easily, I don't know how they're doing this year but I'd take that for Brown + JB.
Add in Crabb and LA should do it.

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02-24-2012, 12:16 PM
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It seems as if the Kings are shopping Brown and want him out so Richards can get the C.
They can just as easily give it to Rick. The deal won't involve an overpaid D-man(see Pens fans and Paul Martin), and prospects. I promise you that.

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02-24-2012, 12:20 PM
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I want Schenn and Kulemin or Schenn and Kadri. Even if the latter meant we had to throw in someone like Hickey.

We need a physical, young sure thing defenseman that isn't a project. I think Schenn's game is perfect for Western Conference hockey.

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It will most likely be for a solid 3rd liner+bottom pairing dman give or take. I'm quite certain Dean is looking to fix holes, thus he's not looking to "upgrade" on Brown, but rather get quantity back in return (like the Visnovsky trade)

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02-24-2012, 12:22 PM
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I don't see why the Kings need or want Schenn, unless they plan to flip him over to another team for a top six forward or bring him in and swap Greene out in a package for a forward.

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