Pau Gasol appreciation thread

McSorleyStick · 02-24-2012, 08:43 AM

Guy responded like the 2 time champ he is with two stellar games in a row after all the trade talk. Mentally soft he is not. Lakers fans need to appreciate this guy before he's gone.

And lol Kobe 7-24.

The media tells us that Kobe Bryant is the next best thing to Jordan for one reason and for one reason only .... $$$$$$ .... they needed a guy to "crown" as the best even though his stats prove otherwise.

What did Kobe do during that 3 and a half year span when he didn't have Shaq there? oh yea that's right! he didn't do much

Kobe as team leader without Shaq or Gasol ...

2004-05

Lakers: 34-48 (failed to even make playoffs)

2005-06

Lakers: 45-37 (ejected by PHX in first round)

2006-07

Lakers: 42-40 (ejected by PHX again in first round)

2007-08

Kobe cries to be traded because he knows he can't lead a team so "they" send him Gasol and the Lakers immediately hit a 10 game winning streak that started on Gasol's third game as a Laker and they finish the season 27-9 since Gasol's arrival.

Glorified, healthier T-Mac

RWO · 03-01-2012, 08:31 PM

Can you remind me how many playoffs games did he won in Memphis?

Nazem Bozak · 03-01-2012, 08:42 PM

The glorified tmac remark makes me think...

i understand gasol seems like an after though on this laker team, they have bynum the 2nd most dominant big in the league and gasol could be that bait they have to get that pg they need.

but he was big during the lakers 2 championship runs

took420s · 03-06-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by McSorleyStick

Glorified, healthier T-Mac

playoff career totals--most of these he will finish #1 at before he retires

3-point field goal attempts – 1st (822)
3-point field goals made – 3rd (275)
Field goal attempts – 3rd (4,198)
Free throws made – 3rd (1,241)
Points – 3rd (5,280)
Minutes played – 3rd (8,165)
Field goals made – 4th (1,882)
Free throw attempts – 5th (1,522)
Steals – 7th (294)
Assists – 9th (988)

i wanted the last two in red for it to sink in...for all the "ballhog" lables the guy is still top 10 ALL TIME in playoff assists as a shooting guard. i picked playoff stats since there are always guys who put up regular season stats who can't back it up int he playoffs..ya know...guys like Tmac

look at gasol before and after kobe...look at any player's stats before and after teamed with kobe and you will in fact see what all objective observers see...Kobe makes everyone on his team better.

oh yeah and saying kobe failed in 2005-2008 until he got Gasol...wtf are you smoking dude why dont you look at the roster for those years:

18 Sasha Vujacic PG

8 Kobe Bryant SG
23 Von Wafer PG --rookie DNP
1 William "Smush" Parker G

11 Devin Green G ---rookie DNP
2 Aaron McKie PG/SG ---old DNP
24 Jim Jackson G/F ---old DNP
9 Laron Profit G/SF ---who?
4 Luke Walton SF

3 Devean George SF

7 Lamar Odom SF
43 Brian Cook PF

14 Stanislav Medvedenko PF/C

54 Kwame Brown PF/C The 'Ship is ours!
21 Ronny Turiaf * PF heart issue DNP all year
31 Chris Mihm C decent center for a year or 2
54 Andrew Bynum C rookie DNP

2006-2007 was basiclly the same roster and they still nearly took out the Suns in round 1, more proof kobe makes his teammates better, but only so much you can do with smush and kwame as your starters

...so tell me again why kobe did not lead this group of misfits to the title during those years???

i would apologize for going off topic but the OP pretty much derailed their own thread from post #1

McSorleyStick · 03-06-2012, 11:06 PM

Tonight in a loss vs Detroit

Bynum - 30 points on 13-18 shots

Kobe - 22 points on 8-26

KoME must have missed something

Not the 1st game this season where his big men are beasting and yet he keeps chucking away

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took420s · 03-07-2012, 11:54 AM

sigh...taking one game and applying it to fit your opinion.

game before vs MIA: 14 - 23 = 33 points
before that vs SAC: 13-24 = 38 points

you may be able to pick and choose a few stinkers...i have 15+ years of HOF type performances i can point at.

Kobe is a SHOOTING GUARD...he is the most lethal scorer the modern NBA has ever seen, its his job to shoot. If he is shooting too much it is Mike Brown's job to refocus him.

and lets look at last night since you brought it up:

Kobe had only 4 shots in the entire 4th Q...one of them tying it up late to get them to OT.

Kobe only had 3 shots in OT...2 of them tying it up

I love Bynum, but the guy is still barely a 60% foul shooter...at the end of games he is not really the guy i want shooting the big shots for fear of the hack-a-shaq technique.

McSorleyStick · 03-07-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by took420s

sigh...taking one game and applying it to fit your opinion.
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1 game ?

It has been like that all season long

Gasol and Bynum dominating inside, Kobe not aknowledging that and chucking away

Goes 8/20, takes shot when triple-teamed, single handedly loses games for his team

took420s · 03-07-2012, 03:07 PM

its actually been like this his whole career...which is why the guy is a 1st ballot HOFer, 5x world champion 2x Finals MVP and is currently leading the league in scoring.

you do realize that teams defend the Lakers by packing the paint right? what does that leave open? jump shots, so who would you rather be taking those jump shots...fisher? artest? Gasol has whined this year about being asked to take shots from 15' out...he want to work in the paint...where we already have a bigger 7 footer plus about 4 defenders

the problem i have with your opinion is you are looking at isolated stats or games to try and prove some point that kobe is a "glorified tmac" which even the biggest kobe hater would laugh at.

there is no question, with kobe shooting odds are you have a chance to win

http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/0...y-shake-hands/

One more thing for the box score watchers...re-watch any game and you will see a significant portion of Kobe's shots are bail-out shots...where when all else fails someone like Gasol (who passes up good looks all the time it pisses me off) will pass him the ball with only a few seconds left on shot clock. so when you say 8/20...how many of those 20 were bail-out shots he HAD to take? 4-5 i bet on a nightly basis.

JordanStaal#1Fan · 03-07-2012, 04:05 PM

Well to be fair, and I'm a BIG BIG BIG Kobe Bryant fan, he keeps the ball for WAY too long some times and he puts himself in a position to FORCE stupid shots. When he is on fire, he makes those shots and he is the hero, but when he struggles, like yesterday, he can look like a guy that tries to do too much. But hey, that's Kobe and like you said, the stats/accomplishments speak for themselves! I prefer a guy like Kobe that wants it too much than a guy like Lebron that passes shots after shots in crunch time.

McSorleyStick · 03-07-2012, 05:05 PM

One thing I admire Kobe for is that he is not afraid to take the last shot of a game

he doesnt care about the outcome, he will go for it

I respect that

took420s · 03-07-2012, 08:30 PM

but i gotta admit he hogged it tonight

McSorleyStick · 03-07-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by took420s

but i gotta admit he hogged it tonight

9/31

And lost to the Wiz

Damn

took420s · 03-09-2012, 03:46 PM

whispers that pau is being traded today

will know soon enough they have a game tonight.

DisgruntledHawkFan · 03-14-2012, 01:04 PM

Would appreciate him a whole lot more in a Bulls jersey.

took420s · 03-14-2012, 04:08 PM

really dont want to see him moved...but due to new CBA and salary cap i would understand it as i did the Odom dump (although that looked liek a genious move in hindsight lol cuban!)

McSorleyStick · 03-18-2012, 11:45 PM

Bynum

33 points
11 rebounds
12 of 14 shooting

Gasol

18 points
10 rebounds
8 of 12 shooting

Kobe

15 points
7 turnovers
3 of 20 shooting

Home loss to Utah

Kamal007 · 03-19-2012, 12:15 AM

I love how you only bump this after Kobe has a terrible game. How about you bump this when Kobe goes off for 40 and Gasol has 4 points? Or when Kobe goes off for 35 and Gasol only has 10 points?

McSorleyStick · 03-19-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamal007

I love how you only bump this after Kobe has a terrible game. How about you bump this when Kobe goes off for 40 and Gasol has 4 points? Or when Kobe goes off for 35 and Gasol only has 10 points?

If Gasol has 4 and Kobe 40, it's even worse

McSorleyStick · 03-31-2012, 05:11 PM

KoMe 3/21 today

Thank you Gasol

yeah kobe hit the GW 3, but still

His team almost lost because of his horrible forced shots

VEGASKING · 04-04-2012, 12:18 AM

McSorleyStick · 04-04-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGASKING

Yup

A wide open shot - thks to the Nets ****** defense - with his team up by one

Impressive, heroic

What a leader, what a hero

Touché

Big Poppa Puck · 04-04-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by McSorleyStick

Yup

A wide open shot - thks to the Nets ****** defense - with his team up by one

Impressive, heroic

What a leader, what a hero

Touché

You with Gasol and Kobe is like ix with Lin and Carmelo.

took420s · 04-04-2012, 06:02 PM

i left this thread alone but i see the OP is back to derailing his "Pau Gasol" thread with QQ's regarding Kobe again?

im pretty sure kobe was wide open for that shot due to a screen by gasol...that would have been a better comeback

Avs_19 · 04-04-2012, 10:49 PM

Kamal007 · 04-04-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Avs_19

Need OP's opinion on this ASAP. Will probably try throwing Kobe under the bus for not covering his man on the initial shot