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Hawks Urgently Need a D-Man

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02-24-2012, 11:47 PM
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Any interest in Paul Martin?

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02-24-2012, 11:48 PM
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hammer and a 1st for kuba. he would help the pp and pk and is a good puck moving d-man (reminds me of campbell). he would also put the pressure off of keith because he wouldn't have to play so much every game.
Hjalmarsson + 1st for Kuba ,,, Really?

And Hammer is injured so he wont be traded

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hammer and a 1st for kuba. he would help the pp and pk and is a good puck moving d-man (reminds me of campbell). he would also put the pressure off of keith because he wouldn't have to play so much every game.
Hjalmarsson? I wouldnt trade him straight up for Kuba let alone add a 1st unless he is really dinged up, and if so they wouldnt be able to trade him.

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Any interest in Paul Martin?
Not with that contract

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02-24-2012, 11:50 PM
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The Penguins demand Chicago take Martin. Deal?

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do you have any underperforming but once pretty well regarded prospects you'd want to give up for Zanon?

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The Penguins demand Chicago take Martin. Deal?
We'll take Sharp in return. Sounds fair to me

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We'll take Sharp in return. Sounds fair to me
How about Frolik, Huet, and Olesz?

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take komisarek!!!

but in all seriousness, Jamie McBain, Chris Campoli or Roman Hamrlik are my bets.
outside chances on Milan Jurcina, Bryan Allen or Brett Clark.

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do you have any underperforming but once pretty well regarded prospects you'd want to give up for Zanon?
D Shawn Lalonde (2008 3rd round)

With Leddy and others now in system (Clendening) and his struggles in AHL his future with Hawks is bleak

Was also a Tallon pick not Bowman

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hammer and a 1st for kuba. he would help the pp and pk and is a good puck moving d-man (reminds me of campbell). he would also put the pressure off of keith because he wouldn't have to play so much every game.
I don't think most NHL minds would trade Hjalmarsson for Kuba straight up forget the Hawks adding a first.

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02-25-2012, 12:20 AM
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to ott- 1st, lalonde, and shaw

to chi-kuba, 4th

to car-hammer and o'donnell for allen and spacek

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to ott- 1st, lalonde, and shaw

to chi-kuba, 4th

to car-hammer and o'donnell for allen and spacek
Hammer + 1st + Shaw for 1 yr vet defender , 2 UFA's

Really?

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02-25-2012, 12:25 AM
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Habs could sell:
Campoli (3rd rounder?)
Kaberle (2nd???)
Weber (??????)

Honestly, I'd steer away from Campoli. He's just pitiful.
I think Weber could turn out pretty good, PP shooter, upside remaining. He could be the more expensive of the three though.

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Hammer + 1st + Shaw for 1 yr vet defender , 2 UFA's

Really?
kuba + allen>>>>>hjalmarsson. shaw is crap. and we only lose 1 pick

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02-25-2012, 12:27 AM
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How about Brett Clark?

Can probably be had for a 3rd round pick. Or maybe just Lalonde for Clark?

Hes one of the leagues best shot blockers, is a solid depth dman, is mobile and has decent offensive upside in the right situation. He wont set the world on fire but he will go down to block anything and isnt a complete moron on the ice.

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02-25-2012, 01:40 AM
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Im hoping one of Sarich or Hannan is traded on monday.

Wont cost a ton for the Hawks and both are upcoming UFA's.

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02-25-2012, 07:50 AM
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Jordan leopold for Brandon pirri and a 2nd

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02-25-2012, 10:03 AM
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What would you give for Nabokov and Jurcina or Eaton?

Just to clarifiy, Id rather keep Nabokov, but if we cant sign him it makes sense to move him
1st for both. Crawford is our starter, Nabby wants to be the starter.

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Would you like Brett Clark, blocks shots like a brick wall.
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I feel like I should bring up my earlier offer of Wideman, Vokoun, and Perrault for Morin, Frolik, and a 1st. It still stands, at least in my opinion.
like in the proposal, yes please. Wideman would be my #1 target and Frolik + 1st would be my wish

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Hawks should trade for Holzer. Guy got treated like crap all season long (brought up and down between NHL/AHL and never getting played).
what would you want? a 3rd at best

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The Penguins demand Chicago take Martin. Deal?
Want Olesz and Frolik?

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Im hoping one of Sarich or Hannan is traded on monday.

Wont cost a ton for the Hawks and both are upcoming UFA's.
I'd take either of them, (but not for a 1st...)

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Jordan leopold for Brandon pirri and a 2nd
3 million for Leopold is too much. I wouldn't trade a 2nd alone for him

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02-26-2012, 08:25 AM
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From NYR you can have Staal(for the right price,thats if i was G.M),Stralman or Woywitka.......
Dissent as to Staal. Would need be way over blown away.

I see posts saying to effect CBH "PP, PK + G" suck.

Eminger + Stralman + Boyle + Biron
for
McNeil + Olsen

Rangers gamble on their short term depth for long term gain.
You get help you want NOW.


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02-26-2012, 08:34 AM
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Dissent as to Staal. Would need be way over blown away.

I see posts saying to effect CBH "PP, PK + G" suck.

Eminger + Stralman + Boyle + Biron
for
McNeil + Olsen

Rangers gamble on their short term depth for long term gain.
You get help you want NOW.

You don't want our junk,we don't want yours either.Nothing you offered is enough of an upgrade to warrant giving up 2 top-tier prospects for.In fact Eminger & Stralman are no upgrade at all.Try again and this time make a legitimate offer.

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02-26-2012, 08:44 AM
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You don't want our junk,we don't want yours either.Nothing you offered is enough of an upgrade to warrant giving up 2 top-tier prospects for.In fact Eminger & Stralman are no upgrade at all.Try again and this time make a legitimate offer.
Agree to disagree.
Not junk.
You have two bottom pairing Ds, a tall depth F who is versatile, solid on faceoffs, and is snakebit this year but had 20+ G last year whose scoring might return a bit outside of Torts infamous defense first system.

Biron is established, in good health, rested.
Not Vezina contender, but solid complement rest of the way.

Junk would be. like Avery, or Chad Johnson.

Feel free to suggest what you consider to be a 'legit' offer, but again, not interested in moving Coke for Pepsi.


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You guys can have Schenn from the Leafs. We can even put a 3rd rounder with it. Beach? Or just pick some random forward, we'll bite.

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Lalonde + 3rd for Zanon

Maybe Lalonde can be your Leddy
Deal, please enjoy your new bald-headed defenseman.

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Agree to disagree.
Not junk.
You have two bottom pairing Ds, a tall depth F who is versatile, solid on faceoffs, and is snakebit this year but had 20+ G last year whose scoring might return a bit outside of Torts infamous defense first system.

Biron is established, in good health, rested.
Not Vezina contender, but solid complement rest of the way.

Junk would be. like Avery, or Chad Johnson.

Feel free to suggest what you consider to be a 'leit' offer, but again, not interested in moving Coke for Pepsi.

But the Hawks need a 2nd LC,a top4 D and a goalie upgrade.While Biron is an upgrade over Crawford,he's not enough of one and nothing else you offered fills a need.

I really don't see these teams as being good trade partners unless you want to deal one of Staal,Girardi or Del Zotto.Not much chance of that happening tho.

Or maybe an underperforming former 20g scorer Boyle for an underperforming former 20g scorer Frolik ? Change of scenery might do both a world of good.

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