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Who gets the 2005 #1 pick if there is no season?

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11-02-2004, 03:40 PM
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Who gets the 2005 #1 pick if there is no season?

Is there an official NHL standing on this?

Sorry if this has been asked before.

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Not as sorry as I am.

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The Capitals!!!

j/k

Yet to be determined but likely same initial draft order except a new ping ponged lottery for the lottery teams.

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i say pick em out of a hat, anyone's gain!
Only way we'll get Crosby in Philly.

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No CBA = no Draft

Can someone PLEASE sticky this? it is asked at least 2-3 times a week...

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11-02-2004, 04:06 PM
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there can be a draft with no cba. i dont know why people dont get that. the owners own the league. the draftees are not part of the prior players union. thus, teams can have a draft. if they want, they can wait to sign players till a new agreement is reached, but the draft eligible players are not part of any union and the owners own the league.

they should just do a draft based on last years standings, with a new lottery. and then just wait to sign the players till a new cba is reached

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No CBA = no Draft

Can someone PLEASE sticky this? it is asked at least 2-3 times a week...
Amen.

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It's refreshing to see a thread on a new topic!!!!!







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Toronto will get the #1 pick, I thought that was clear.

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Toronto will get the #1 pick, I thought that was clear.

And then trade it away

j/king

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It oughta be the honor of the host team to pick first.

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And then trade it away

j/king

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The host team gets to pick first. As a friendly gesture, we'll gladly give the 2nd overall team a BONUS player in Denis Hamel. Sound fair everyone?!

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This kind of thread has been posted millions of times....I'm starting to get sick of it.

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While I agree that there CAN be a draft, and probably SHOULD be a draft, I don't like the idea of a lottery involving only the also-ran teams of 2003-04. I think all 30 teams should be in the 2005 draft lottery, weighted using 2003-04 standings as a basis for comparison. My reasoning is simple: The Coyotes were an also-ran in 2003-04, but since then have added the likes of Gauthier and O'Donnell on defense, plus Nedved, Hull and Saprykin up front. In other words, rosters have changed since the 2003-04 was played...in some cases, drastically. On the opposite end of the spectrum, we have Boston. In 2003-04, Boston was a Cup contender entering the postseason. Now, they've seen a mass exodus of talent and have decided not to replace them until after the lockout is over.

I just feel that the fairest solution would be a weighted lottery involving all 30 teams (ESPECIALLY because 2005 is a special draft year--because of Crosby yes, but also because of Brule and the overall depth of the first round).

Just one man's opinion.

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sticky this thread so the question isn't asked again.

no CBA no draft.

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11-03-2004, 01:56 PM
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But technically,
is Sidney Crosby already a part of the NHLPA?

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Heatly Kovalchuk Ovechkin Nash Zherdev
Phaneuf Pitkanen Boumeister Hamhuis Suter

and yes Bertuzzi does deserve it.

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This kind of thread has been posted millions of times....I'm starting to get sick of it.
Then don't read it. Some people don't spend their lives on this thing and wouldn't know the information if not for it being asked frequently. Have it stickied if you want, but otherwise no one is forcing you to click on this thread that is clearly titled as to what is the subject.

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They should have all the teams submit a bid for the first draft pick. With the amount of the bid subtracted from that team's salary cap ceiling for each of the next 5 years.

E.g. Rangers submit a winning bid of $10M... fine, but then instead of a $40M cap, they have to operate under a $30M cap for the next five years. Etc. Many teams would submit a bid of $0, and then be subject to last year's draft order.

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nice idea BG but if we were to use Jag68s idea then i would say to use the last 5 yrs standings as a reference and not just last years.

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The team whose fans have suffered to most over the past half century deserve Crosby. If Pitts or Washington get him, the NHL is F***ed.

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The team whose fans have suffered to most over the past half century deserve Crosby. If Pitts or Washington get him, the NHL is F***ed.
Right.

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Right.
How about any team that hasn't won a cup since 67' get's a shot....But noooooo Toronto.

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