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02-25-2012, 06:18 PM
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I don't know. But the way he used the term, and how he followe dup his analysis, you just knew it had nothing to do with the trap.

He basically said "the Devils will bore you to death with their relentless work in the offensive zone."



That's not really the point.
It is the point when you are trying to correlate that comment with our forecheck, which is not passive or boring at all. It makes zero sense.

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Trade a PP specialist and other non-NHL assets.

Acquire a defensive improvement.

Complain about how Lou is an awful GM.
Not me, I'm all for it. People act like we gave up Clarkson or Henrique(on top of the pick and AHLers) for him. It's not like we got another Havelid or Klee.

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02-25-2012, 06:19 PM
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I don't know. But the way he used the term, and how he followe dup his analysis, you just knew it had nothing to do with the trap.

He basically said "the Devils will bore you to death with their relentless work in the offensive zone."



That's not really the point.
The point is he was rambling and did a horse **** job of trying to get his message across (which isn't unusual for JR) thus you have people on here with different interpretations of what he meant.

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What? He didn`t say our forecheck is boring for the viewers.

He said our forecheck will naturally bore you to death if you`re standing against it (as an opponent) and can`t get anything going.

Slovak telling Americans what is Jeremy Roenick trying to say. Mind = blown.

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So how are there others in this thread agreeing with me? If that's truly what he meant he did a piss poor job of conveying it to his viewers.
I hope you don`t think this is Group A vs. Group B. The amount of people agreeing with you doesn`t matter.

I`d like to hear why were those comments bad. Specific comments.

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Not really. His words are open to interpretation. Using words and phrases like "typical Devils hockey", "bore you to death" can easily lead someone to believe he is referring to a trapping, stingy style of hockey. Who really cares though? It's Roenick and he'll always generalize and make questionable statements.
Eh, in fact, every comment is open to interpretation, if you want to. But there`s always just one "true" meaning. There`s a lot of grey in some cases, not in this one.

"Can easily lead somenone..."

Someone who haven`t seen the Devils since 1995? Those quotes are taken out of the context. He explained himself very well. The whole analysis was about how well the Devils play defensively, how well the system works (pinching, covering for each other, quick shots on the net, cycle), how physically demanding and frustrating is to play against such a system. No mention of protecting the neutral zone. No mention, no implying, nothing. BC can jump around all he wants, Roenick not only didn`t make it look like the Devils trap, he didn`t even mean to.

I`m done with this. Apparently BC thinks I`m trying to mock him and is pullling a butthurt kid. I don`t want to be a part of that. Not at all.

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I'VE BEEN EXPOSED!!!!

You sound like you're 12.
Oh really?

You act like you`re 12. What should I think of that? Yeah, now that`s embarrassing.


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I was under the impression Roenick was talking about us trapping too. But I just ignored it and rolled my eyes, like I always do when someone feels the need to talk about our 'system.'

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Wow, all of this over a small JR analysis which as always is generic and not interesting nor informative at all. I don't put any stock into what he says and look elsewhere for opinions on hockey. He says **** just to say it.

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02-25-2012, 06:29 PM
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Eh, in fact, every comment is open to interpretation, if you want to. But there`s always just one "true" meaning. There`s a lot of grey in some cases, not in this one.
If there was no grey area in this instance, the collective group on here would share the same view. Not the case..

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Now let`s talk on topic again. Zidla seems very happy to be here, I`m sure he will be a good fit.

Motivation does wonders.

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Wow, all of this over a small JR analysis which as always is generic and not interesting nor informative at all. I don't put any stock into what he says and look elsewhere for opinions on hockey. He says **** just to say it.
Trust me, neither do I. But this is the kind of a reaction I hate to see.

I just roll me eyes; he`s a clown; what a jerk; of course he said the Devils trap etc. etc. It`s as biased, paranoid or fanboyish as it gets.

Good God in heaven, I really didn`t want this to go that far, but I think it was necessary.

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If there was no grey area in this instance, the collective group on here would share the same view. Not the case..
You`re forgetting one important fact - collective group on here is a bunch of Devils fans sick & tired of listening about "boring Devils hockey".

Now that we know we both took a communication course, can I ask you if you took a psychology course as well? Do you know what I`m implying right now?

Look, this is essentially a fight against the stereotypes. If you asked 100 fans around the league how they interprete those comments, I`m sure the majority would say "Devils trap". But the majority isn`t really important. They`d misinterprete those comments because of the stereotype/because of what they`ve been hearing for years.

It`s a mistake.

I don`t know any other way how he could`ve made those comments more clear, thus he`s not in fault. Asking fans not to think like fans is hard, I know.


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**** happens. Probably time to get the thread back on track..

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So how about that Marek Zidlicky.

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So how about that Marek Zidlicky.
Reported.

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What were his stats like?
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2011 IIHF World Championship Stats
Marek Zidlicky:
9 GP 1G 4A 5PTS 6PIM +6 1PPG 26SOG 3.85SG% 23.53 Min/Game

He had the most time played for the entire Czech team. They also won the Bronze in the tournament.


Stats don`t lie.

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Stats don`t lie.
I'm impressed that he is a time traveler and went back in time to face the Bure era Canucks.

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I'm impressed that he is a time traveler and went back in time to face the Bure era Canucks.
Shhh, Just Win might be lurking around.




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Who's Marek Zidlicky?

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Derpin hard.

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What is Marek Zidlicky?

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forechecking is boring, we should get Yzerman to replace Lou so we can get exciting!

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Getzo explained it perfectly.

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Sweet lord, I just read through the Zidlicky thread on the trade board. What a wasteland.

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forechecking is boring, we should get Yzerman to replace Lou so we can get exciting!
When DeBoer goes up to Minnesota he'll bring up all the guys so no worries.

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Sweet lord, I just read through the Zidlicky thread on the trade board. What a wasteland.
go on...

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Sweet lord, I just read through the Zidlicky thread on the trade board. What a wasteland.
I'm afraid to go.

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