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[MIN/NJD] Zidlicky for Foster, Veilleux, Palmieri, WSH 2012 2nd, Con. NJD 2013 3rd

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02-24-2012, 07:51 PM
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I would have rather traded our 2nd. That's really the only thing of value we lose IMO.

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Just told everyone near me about the trade. Section 21

Mixed reactions

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Go sit down Nick.
Isn't that when someone here asked if he was "retarded"?

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The Wild were dumping a problem child (on their team anyway) with a NTC that publicly asked for a trade to NJ...why should we give up anything of value?

It's really not a big deal in the big picture, but we gave up too much.
What of value did we give up?

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Our 4th line could be improved.
Yup. Call up Zharkov and call it a day.

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I would have rather traded our 2nd. That's really the only thing of value we lose IMO.
Exactly.

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People thinking it's horrible cause there's more than 2 pieces. Foster and Veilleux are just moving contracts. Palmieri, 2nd and Conditional pick for a top 4 d-man signed next year too?

Only thing of good value is that 2nd round pick.

The Devils are better after this trade, I'm all for it.

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Palmieri leaving opens the door for Zharkov and Tedenby who are now the lone good forwards prospects to call up.

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What of value did we give up?
Washington's second and maybe that 3rd round pick. It was pretty fair value I suppose. Not a fan of losing Washington's pick and possibly our 3rd though.

Zidlicky better impress.

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Yup. Call up Zharkov and call it a day.
Trade for Pahlsson and improve our terrible faceoffs

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Yup. Call up Zharkov and call it a day.
I'm ok with that.

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What of value did we give up?
What of value did we get back? Guy hasn't produced anything in 2 years now. It could go either way

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Oh good lord, after every mistake, minus night, goal/assist that was never scored, are we going hear the, "see, I told he he stinks" (read: I'm a better GM than Lou) comments from the people who hate this trade?

I mean, please. It's Marion Zidlikcey.

I can't even spell his name.

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What of value did we get back? Guy hasn't produced anything in 2 years now. It could go either way
He's one of the better PMDs in the league.

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I meant them taking Foster, Vellieux and Palmieri's salaries. It was rumored theleague wouldn't let the Devils take on Zidlicky's $1M or so left for the season.

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The Wild were dumping a problem child (on their team anyway) with a NTC that publicly asked for a trade to NJ...why should we give up anything of value?

It's really not a big deal in the big picture, but we gave up too much.
And the guy is 35 years old......

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What of value did we get back? Guy hasn't produced anything in 2 years now. It could go either way
24 pts in 46 games last year.......

He's fine just never seen eye to eye with Yeo and it spiraled.

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He's one of the better PMDs in the league.
meh debatable.

Have to give to get though I suppose.

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He's one of the better PMDs in the league.
I would use the word "was".

Listen, I like the player (two or more years ago) im certainly not against us aquiring him. But it doesn't appear that he is at that level anymore unless this chage revitalizes him. I don't care about goals but his assists aren't there either and that is the better sign of a good PMD

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I would have rather traded our 2nd. That's really the only thing of value we lose IMO.
Agreed. The WSH 2nd disappointed me but its whatever.

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What of value did we get back? Guy hasn't produced anything in 2 years now. It could go either way

He had 24 points in 46 games last season. And he's scored more than 40 points in 5 of his 8 NHL seasons. I think he's better than the 14 points he's had this season.

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Because like Lou other GM's have eyes and see Wsh free falling
We took salary and salary cap space off their hands.

In a cap system, that's important.

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I really hope we have to give up that third!

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meh, he's better than Fayne. He easily becomes our best defenseman and this is not a rental. Lou sees some kind of project.

$4 million for a cap hit is high, but at least we are trying to rebuild the defense and using the money that we will save this summer.

But then again, we have a defenseman for the first time who can reach double digits in goals and the 40+ point mark.

I'm OK with it.
Agreed. Posters seem to think that the fact that he's signed for another year is a negative. The GMs obviously see it as a positive, judging from the return.


It's steep, but it looks like Lou thinks this team was a puck moving defenseman away from contending.

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C'mon guys PMD's don't come cheap, I fully expect to get the best out of this guy.
I just hope he still has that 40-50 point form in him.

After digesting it a bit, the price isn't terrible. A mid second, Palmieri, and a conditional pick, and two empty contracts. In a seller's market, that's not half bad.

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