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Someone else they could overpay for. I still cannot believe Zidlicky got such a return.
I think the return for Zidlicky had to do with the Devils being broke. It seems like they were essentially paying Minnesota to take on the extra contracts.
Hilarious that people think the payment for Zids is so enormous. Basically 3 warm bodies who have done nothing of consequence in the NHL, a 2nd rounder (in 2013 I might add, one they got in a previous trade) and a 3rd rounder that only kicks in if the guy helps them get into the playoffs. A weird trade, I will admit, kind of quantity for quality (well, quality when he's playing well at least) but certainly not "overpayment."
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Originally Posted by CB Joe
I think the return for Zidlicky had to do with the Devils being broke. It seems like they were essentially paying Minnesota to take on the extra contracts.
Not only does Zidlicky make more money than all three of those players combined, he's also signed for the same $4 million through next season, whereas the three players sent to the Wylde are all free agents after this season ends. So no, it has nothing to do with cap savings.
The fact that Fletcher got any kind of value for a malcontent with an NTC is great, but to call it "overpayment" is a bit of an "overstatement." The guy has averaged around 40+ points a season when he hasn't been injured up until this year. Besides, NJ always seems to do well with puckmoving defensemen.
Hilarious that people think the payment for Zids is so enormous. Basically 3 warm bodies who have done nothing of consequence in the NHL, a 2nd rounder (in 2013 I might add, one they got in a previous trade) and a 3rd rounder that only kicks in if the guy helps them get into the playoffs. A weird trade, I will admit, kind of quantity for quality (well, quality when he's playing well at least) but certainly not "overpayment."
Not only does Zidlicky make more money than all three of those players combined, he's also signed for the same $4 million through next season, whereas the three players sent to the Wylde are all free agents after this season ends. So no, it has nothing to do with cap savings.
The fact that Fletcher got any kind of value for a malcontent with an NTC is great, but to call it "overpayment" is a bit of an "overstatement." The guy has averaged around 40+ points a season when he hasn't been injured up until this year. Besides, NJ always seems to do well with puckmoving defensemen.
I thought Zidlicky was a UFA at seasons end. I guess it wouldn't save the Devils any money.
I still think the trade was an overpayment. Liles only got a second rounder.
I'm pretty sure I just read that you said Elliott, arguably Avs best defensive prospect, with 11 points in 32 games at plus 3, while taking minimal penalty minutes is crappy? Wow man.
If you average that out over the season, he's around 30 points, and plus 9 odd.
Did you know Mike Green got 12 points in 70 games in his 1st NHL season. He was a rookie, but he had that pedigree.
Man, give the kid some time. He set records in the juniors.
You're watching with your heart -- not your eyes -- if you think Stefan Elliott is anything but a pylon defensively.
Again, he dumped two career 4th liners/minor leaguers and a defenseman who's switched teams 7 times in 6 years. If you are seriously going to tell me Kurtis Foster, Nick Palmieri, and Stephane frickin' Veilleux are anything more than chump change then you must think Cody McLeod is a scoring winger. And I will repeat, ALL THREE are free agents after this season. It adds absolutely nothing of value to the trade. If anything it frees NJ of a couple useless contracts so they can conceivably make more trades if they so wish.
The only way I'd be inclined to agree with you is if and only if that 2013 conditional 3rd rounder kicks in.
You're watching with your heart -- not your eyes -- if you think Stefan Elliott is anything but a pylon defensively.
When I hear someone described as a pylon defensively, I think "not mobile". I don't think that's Elliott's issue at all, as he is quite mobile.
IMO he's poor defensively right now because A) his positioning is lousy, B) he couldn't move my 8 year old niece off the puck, and C) when in the defensive/neutral zones, he skates and moves the puck into terribly dangerous places on the ice. Honestly, to me it's that third one that causes me the most concern. A and B are teachable and/or directly solvable. Not so sure about the last one.
Zidlicky will turn it around in NJ, at least in the short-term, I'd almost guarantee it.
I think Palmieri is a decent asset still, kid has size, decent skill level and is only 22. He's got 13 goals and 25 points in 78 career NHL games. A bit unfair to label him a career 4th liner/minor leaguer. Playing like on this year? Sure...but still somewhat of an asset at this point that if you are the Wild, you hope you can mold into a third line level NHL player. Palmieri + a 2nd is a solid return, the rest of the package doesn't matter.
I don't know but I think he want to get back into the NHL... but not sure
I read that his KHL team is preparing for his departure, so it really looks like it's happening, but I thought he bolted the Preds because he didn't like playing under Trotzsky's blue-collar system. That led me to assume that the Preds told him his rights were being dealt to another team. If indeed they were trading him, I imagine George McPhee would kill to get the guy to play alongside Ovechkin.
Florida is still the dumping ground of bad contracts.
I was hoping the Panthros would be dealing for an impact player come deadline time. So far they've traded for Jerred Smithson and Wojtek Wolski. Not quite was I was expecting.
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