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02-25-2012, 12:52 PM
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What's needed tonight? Dumb momentum-draining penalties and crappy defensive play?
No we need a big heavyweight d-man to clear the crease and keep the Lucic's, and Marchand's honest. Havent you ever watched the Bruins?

What is so hard to understand here?

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P.S. For those who do not get CBC in HD, RDS has the game tonight - no Habs game today and it is in HD.

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No we need a big heavyweight d-man to clear the crease and keep the Lucic's, and Marchand's honest. Havent you ever watched the Bruins?

What is so hard to understand here?
What I understand is that I'd prefer a player who can play positionally sound and be a part of an 11-0-1 team when playing rather than one who is sought after for just toughness.

If Carkner is going to get beat left, right and center tonight like other games, then it was the wrong choice, REGARDLESS if he adds toughness.

With your evaluation on the situation I assume you'd prefer Colton Orr over Tyler Bozak?

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02-25-2012, 01:03 PM
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I don't understand some people's fixation with "toughness".

The Bruins style of play is a heavy forecheck to cause turnovers in their offensive zone so they can score.

Carkner's main weaknesses are skating, stickhandling, and quick passing, the most important things you need to beat a heavy forechecking team. It doesn't really make sense.

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no we need a big heavyweight d-man to clear the crease and keep the lucic's, and marchand's honest. Havent you ever watched the bruins?

What is so hard to understand here?
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i don't understand some people's fixation with "toughness".

The bruins style of play is a heavy forecheck to cause turnovers in their offensive zone so they can score.

Carkner's main weaknesses are skating, stickhandling, and quick passing, the most important things you need to beat a heavy forechecking team. It doesn't really make sense.

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02-25-2012, 01:07 PM
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Carkner is in to hopefully protect Karlsson from getting cheap shotted by Marchand. This is the only reason I could come up with for this.
Maybe Karlsson will cheap shot Marchand instead?

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02-25-2012, 01:12 PM
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What I understand is that I'd prefer a player who can play positionally sound and be a part of an 11-0-1 team when playing rather than one who is sought after for just toughness.

If Carkner is going to get beat left, right and center tonight like other games, then it was the wrong choice, REGARDLESS if he adds toughness.

With your evaluation on the situation I assume you'd prefer Colton Orr over Tyler Bozak?
LOL!

So Lee was in the line-up when we won? What's your point? Carkner was in the line-up playing regularly when we won a bunch of games earlier in the season too.

Carkner has become the scapegoat, while Lee who everyone had as waiver fodder not long ago, all of a sudden is a stud for this fickle fickle board. Unbelievable. The truth of course is that everyone is exagerating and Carkner is not nearly as bad as the armchair coaches are making him out to be. We need Carkner against teams like the Bruins and obviously, our soon to be Jack Adams nominee coach agrees, so that's that.

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Can someone clarify where this "11-0-1" stat came within regards to Brian Lee?

It's obviously not just when he is in the lineup, because he's played 34 games.

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Not understanding switching up Lee and Carkner when you're throwing a new goalie in to the wolves.

Bizarre.
Trade in the works that involves Lee is my guess.

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LOL!

So Lee was in the line-up when we won? What's your point? Carkner was in the line-up playing regularly when we won a bunch of games earlier in the season too.

Carkner has become the scapegoat, while Lee who everyone had as waiver fodder not long ago, all of a sudden is a stud for this fickle fickle board. Unbelievable. The truth of course is that everyone is exagerating and Carkner is not nearly as bad as the armchair coaches are making him out to be. We need Carkner against teams like the Bruins and obviously, our soon to be Jack Adams nominee coach agrees, so that's that.
Stud???

I'm pretty sure no poster here thinks Lee is a "stud". I, and I think most others here, look at him as a #4, #5, or #6 defenceman.

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LOL!

So Lee was in the line-up when we won? What's your point? Carkner was in the line-up playing regularly when we won a bunch of games earlier in the season too.

Carkner has become the scapegoat, while Lee who everyone had as waiver fodder not long ago, all of a sudden is a stud for this fickle fickle board. Unbelievable. The truth of course is that everyone is exagerating and Carkner is not nearly as bad as the armchair coaches are making him out to be. We need Carkner against teams like the Bruins and obviously, our soon to be Jack Adams nominee coach agrees, so that's that.


Well, these things called "wins" are kind of a big deal.

And scapegoat? The guys gets beat by much faster skaters almost every game he's been in this last part of the season. Watch the game for once. That isn't a scapegoat. That's poor play.

Brian Lee has been playing good positional defense for this team and excuse me if I would prefer someone I don't gasp and cringe at every time a winger comes flying in on his side.

And talk about over-exaggerating: "(Lee is) all of a sudden a stud..."

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Well, these things called "wins" are kind of a big deal.

And scapegoat? The guys gets beat by much faster skaters almost every game he's been in this last part of the season. Watch the game for once. That isn't a scapegoat. That's poor play.

Brian Lee has been playing good positional defense for this team and excuse me if I would prefer someone I don't gasp and cringe at every time a winger comes flying in on his side.
I disagree.

I don't think Carkner has been horrible like you're saying. I think Lee has just been better of late.

And answer my question. Where did you see this "11-0-1" stat that you used.

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Can someone clarify where this "11-0-1" stat came within regards to Brian Lee?

It's obviously not just when he is in the lineup, because he's played 34 games.
The teams record with Lee in the lineup in their last 12 games

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The teams record with Lee in the lineup in their last 12 games
Thank you.

I see no need to disrupt a winning line-up when said player has been out performing the player who is being put in. Toughness really is being over-rated on here, IMO.

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I don't have any problems with Carkner playing, we need his toughness tonight.

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My prediction for tonight?

Work at bar in Montreal.
T.Vs all over the place.
They play every Habs game.
Ask to put on Senators game.
Nope.

I'm gonna try to avoid seeing the results of tonight's game and hopefully catch it on the CBC.ca archives. It'll be like watching it live but with the ability to skip commercials.

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My prediction for tonight?

Work at bar in Montreal.
T.Vs all over the place.
They play every Habs game.
Ask to put on Senators game.
Nope.

I'm gonna try to avoid seeing the results of tonight's game and hopefully catch it on the CBC.ca archives. It'll be like watching it live but with the ability to skip commercials.
I can never get CBC archives to work.

I dunno why.

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LOL!

So Lee was in the line-up when we won? What's your point? Carkner was in the line-up playing regularly when we won a bunch of games earlier in the season too.

Carkner has become the scapegoat, while Lee who everyone had as waiver fodder not long ago, all of a sudden is a stud for this fickle fickle board. Unbelievable. The truth of course is that everyone is exagerating and Carkner is not nearly as bad as the armchair coaches are making him out to be. We need Carkner against teams like the Bruins and obviously, our soon to be Jack Adams nominee coach agrees, so that's that.

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So we have a coach who is a Jack Adams candidate and has had the pulse of the team on his finger tips all year, yet there is a whine fest when he takes out a marginal
player out of the line up. I'm sure the team will survive. Go sens!
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I don't have any problems with Carkner playing, we need his toughness tonight.
He better drop the gloves for once and intimidate that way though. In that last game in Boston, which was AWESOME GAME by the way save the Andersson center ice blunder, with Thornton and McQuaid having already fought, it was his perfect chance to take out Lucic in the 2nd who scored the turning point of that game late in that period.

Carkner needs to stir the drink. By the way I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as some here make him out to be as a 5th/6th dman. I think with his toughness he is good enough to be on any NHL roster as their 6th guy. He just needs to get into the game. And that is dropping the mittens first.

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I can never get CBC archives to work.

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