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02-25-2012, 01:08 PM
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That might be the only thing he did that was worth remembering to be honest. Am I forgeting something?
you're probably right

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boulton sucked. moving on.

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you're probably right
don't get me wrong he was not the worst player but there are better options available within the system.

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don't get me wrong he was not the worst player but there are better options available within the system.
he was fine for a regular season 4th line winger. that's about it though. it makes him extremely expendable. i'm fine with him being waived.

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That might be the only thing he did that was worth remembering to be honest. Am I forgeting something?
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im a little confused if someone could clarify how this works ? i thought if u have a 2 way deal (which he doesnt?) u can go to ahl whenever without going thru waivers. so he has a 1 way deal and we are trying to send him down but lou says hes going to stay on the nhl roster? so why is he on waivers i dont understand

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“I feel like I’m a big part of this team on the ice and in the locker room,” he said. “I think all the players know that and I think I definitely contribute.”

“[DeBoer] told me not to worry about it, I’m on the team and whatnot,” Boulton said. “Obviously, it’s disappointing to be on waivers, but, hopefully, it doesn’t change anything here and, hopefully, I’ll play the rest of the year.”
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“We did this to give us the option to send him down should he not be playing a lot, so he can get quality ice time down there (in Albany),” Lamoriello said.

The plan right now is to keep Boulton on the NHL roster if he clears waivers. If he were to be sent down, he would have to clear re-entry waivers to be called back up. Although Boulton has another season left on his contract after this one (with a salary of $750,000 and cap hit of $662,500), Lamoriello said he would not hesitate to put Boulton on re-entry waivers to call him up.

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im a little confused if someone could clarify how this works ? i thought if u have a 2 way deal (which he doesnt?) u can go to ahl whenever without going thru waivers. so he has a 1 way deal and we are trying to send him down but lou says hes going to stay on the nhl roster? so why is he on waivers i dont understand
1 way or 2 way in general does not determine if you have to go through waivers to be sent down. It depends on your NHL experience and games played basically.

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im a little confused if someone could clarify how this works ? i thought if u have a 2 way deal (which he doesnt?) u can go to ahl whenever without going thru waivers. so he has a 1 way deal and we are trying to send him down but lou says hes going to stay on the nhl roster? so why is he on waivers i dont understand
He's on waivers because Lou doesn't want him on the roster. He's hoping a team will claim Boulton because nobody would trade for him.

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He's on waivers because Lou doesn't want him on the roster. He's hoping a team will claim Boulton because nobody would trade for him.
I think lou waited until now to do this because he knows knowone will pick up Boulton with all the trades going on from now until monday. This frees up a spot on his Roster. After Monday boulton can be recalled but has to go threw re entry waivers, knowone will pick him up on re entry because they can't use him if they do. Who is going to pay a guy to sit out for the rest of the year.

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I could see one of them playing in the playoffs if the Devils get matched up against Philly, Boston, or New York.

Remember, in 2006, Janssen was able to get into the line-up in the playoffs over Viktor Kozlov, who is more "skilled."
I don't see it happening again this year. DeBoer wants a hockey-competent bottom 6 and Boulton and Janssen have no place in such a group.

We have better sources of "team toughness" than those guys.

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Boulton is not a goon, unless one is a fruitloop or a hockey mother.

He was signed precisely based on his past performance of playing tough 4th line hockey and contributing modestly, as 4th liners do.

Obviously, like Foster, he did not pass the audition this season in NJD. Which is why he is on waivers, along with opening up a roster spot. Had he played as he had in the past, he would have been (role wise) for NJD this April precisely what Thornton was (is) for Boston. Not a guy who is just fine for the first three months of the regular season, but whom you pack away in the closet come the postseason (think: Cam).

As for the post of getting Yayo some talent to play with...

Yep, just linemates holding back that great talent. Please. The kid is a physical waif who is yet to show much of anything. He has age (time) on his side, but the extent to which kiddies are placed on a pedestal simply based on DOB is absurd at times. No, NJD is not making roster moves for him...and his role come April will be minimum. Bet on it. He will be fighting Carter for a lineup spot.

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Boulton is not a goon, unless one is a fuitloop or a hockey mother.
People seem to automatically associate enforcer with the term "goon". A goon is a player whose sole purpose is to hurt the other team's players, like a Tom Sestito. Boulton is a guy who can adequately play on the 4th line (well, he did in Atlanta. Not sure with the Devils, haven't watched that much this season) but happens to be a player who will fight.

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People seem to automatically associate enforcer with the term "goon". A goon is a player whose sole purpose is to hurt the other team's players, like a Tom Sestito. Boulton is a guy who can adequately play on the 4th line (well, he did in Atlanta. Not sure with the Devils, haven't watched that much this season) but happens to be a player who will fight.
I know. Those people are fruitloops.

Sorry to offend anyone. That's how I feel.

They've contributed to the limp-wristedness of this sport.

Espousing the EA Sports/all-star game mentality whereby you want four lines of scorers! and skill players. Bettman has obliged.

Truth is, NJD dresses skilled waifs on the fourth line, they'll be eating ice in Round One. I'm not worried though; Deboer won't.

NJD likely does have sufficient team toughness for the postseason, I believe. We'll find out, for if you "replace" the likes of Boulton with a figure skater like Yayo rest assured, you'll be tested more. Boulton may not be Shawn Thornton...but neither is Yayo. In fact, he's prey for Thornton's type.


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Problem is with Boulton,Janssen, Carter and who ever we have for fourth line duties have never been given the chance to gel at all. Its almost like the coach pulls names out of a hat to see who plays fourth line any given night. Thought the best 4th line we had this year was Boulton Jofferson and Palmieri. Seems to be working out and now things are changed up again.

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Lou said he won't send Boulton to Albany right now.... That may change after Monday. With Columbus picking up Darryl Boyce off waivers, that gives them some flexibility to move Pahlsson, or also Derek MacKenzie.

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The difference in what you need from a 4th line October-January and what you need moving forward (especially into the playoffs) is simple.

It's not "more scoring!" Or "more skillz!". (I'm speaking 4th line, not 3rd line, which is a different story.) It's the ability to keep up with the accelerated pace of late regular season play...and the hyper-accelerated pace of playoff hockey. So to that end, NJD evaluated that Boulton was not up to snuff. We know Cam isn't.

Frankly, regardless of whether some want it or not, Kovy will no doubt see some double shifting in the playoffs anyway, which will further diminish 4th line minutes. Why? Because you want to win and lose with your best players on the ice. Simple.

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Cam should be on waivers, love him but he has done jack *****. Boulton doesn't put up points either but atleast Boulton can skate a bit and wins his fights

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i want jim slater.

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UFA this summer.

I've thought that guy would be an ideal 4th liner for a contender for years. Sandpaper, decent wheels.

Amazing that he has stuck with the same franchise for so long in such a modest (bottom six) role - those types typically rotate around the league, often.

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Boulton is not a goon, unless one is a fruitloop or a hockey mother.

He was signed precisely based on his past performance of playing tough 4th line hockey and contributing modestly, as 4th liners do.

Obviously, like Foster, he did not pass the audition this season in NJD. Which is why he is on waivers, along with opening up a roster spot. Had he played as he had in the past, he would have been (role wise) for NJD this April precisely what Thornton was (is) for Boston. Not a guy who is just fine for the first three months of the regular season, but whom you pack away in the closet come the postseason (think: Cam).

As for the post of getting Yayo some talent to play with...

Yep, just linemates holding back that great talent. Please. The kid is a physical waif who is yet to show much of anything. He has age (time) on his side, but the extent to which kiddies are placed on a pedestal simply based on DOB is absurd at times. No, NJD is not making roster moves for him...and his role come April will be minimum. Bet on it. He will be fighting Carter for a lineup spot.
That's what I was saying in the other thread and I got jumped on. It's true..

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I truly believe Josefson will become an integral part of this team, and am loathe to trade him. However, this is a team that can make some noise and is well served by a veteran 4th line. Send him to Albany when the time comes, bring him back up to skate with the Black Aces and learn a thing.

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UFA this summer.

I've thought that guy would be an ideal 4th liner for a contender for years. Sandpaper, decent wheels.

Amazing that he has stuck with the same franchise for so long in such a modest (bottom six) role - those types typically rotate around the league, often.
he was drafted in the late first round, so they tried to make him a top six player for a while. then a few years ago he was a healthy scratch for a while and that fired him up. he came back great. he has a decent scoring touch for a bottom six player, great defensively, forechecks like parise, hits hard, especially for his size (he ragdolled tyler myers a season ago), great faceoff guy, and he's faster than kovalchuk. now that he isn't trying to be something he's not, he's the ideal 4th liner. i'd love to add him either now or in the offseason.

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he was drafted in the late first round, so they tried to make him a top six player for a while. then a few years ago he was a healthy scratch for a while and that fired him up. he came back great. he has a decent scoring touch for a bottom six player, great defensively, forechecks like parise, hits hard, especially for his size (he ragdolled tyler myers a season ago), great faceoff guy, and he's faster than kovalchuk. now that he isn't trying to be something he's not, he's the ideal 4th liner. i'd love to add him either now or in the offseason.



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Slater would be a huge upgrade on Carter. I've been all for it for a while.

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