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02-25-2012, 02:31 PM
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Would've been nice to have Wolski's shootout goals a little earlier on this season.

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Fair enough, I'd still like to get Morrow and trade away a winger or two.
Agreed. He is a great leader and a good goal scorer, but I don't really see us getting him.

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Or it could be that he is 26 years old yesterday. Great8 probably thought he was going to be 27.
Nahhh he just turned 26 yesterday, Great8 is too smart to make that mistake =)

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Before everyone gets in a tizzy over a 3rd round pick, look at Tallons track record for trading for under performing or out of place players thus far. He's young in terms of players ages and has about as much skill as anyone on our second line if not more. I'm happy with the deal, Tallon added 2 guys for basically nothing. This gives us a much more complete lineup and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few guys delt for picks to cover the ones we just traded away.

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02-25-2012, 03:00 PM
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Don't think DT gave up that much considering how many teams would be ahead of us that could have claimed him. Think he can also regain his form here with getting more minutes. I also agree with others on here that there is another trade coming. We already had too many roster players and just added two more without subtracting. Someone is on their way out for sure.

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02-25-2012, 03:08 PM
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Don't think DT gave up that much considering how many teams would be ahead of us that could have claimed him. Think he can also regain his form here with getting more minutes. I also agree with others on here that there is another trade coming. We already had too many roster players and just added two more without subtracting. Someone is on their way out for sure.
This, and people also forget that we couldn't have claimed him on waivers anyway. I'm pretty sure we were at the 50 contract limit, and the Rangers knew this, so we had to give up something. It's a low-risk, high-reward move.

Looks like ATF was right in his prediction, and Great8 also as far as a shootout specialist coming from outside the NHL.

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02-25-2012, 03:14 PM
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I doubt he will be in the lineup tonight...would be cool though
Can he play RW well?

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02-25-2012, 03:30 PM
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Wolski should do well for you guys. He needs to play in a top 6 role w/ top 6 minutes. He just simply was not getting that chance in NY. Torts has his top 6 pretty much set and WW didn't fit in. A large part of this was because he was injured early this season and by the time he got back the top 6 spots were filled in and in Torts system, you start on the bottom 6 and work your way up to earn a go on the top 6 and WW just isn't the type of player who can play well in a bottom 6 role with bottom 6 players. He's extremely skilled and has a good shot but really needs to play with someone who can elevate his game. He isn't the type to make his linemates better. He needs to play with those type of players. He's also lethal in shootouts, scoring over 50% of the time. If you guys try to spread the scoring out and play him with Weiss, (putting Fleischmann and Versteeg with another center) he'll be in the best position to do well.

edit - FYI: he was sent on a conditioning stint coming back from his injury (and since there wasn't a spot for him on our lineup) where he went 3-2-5 in six and sparked the Conn. Whale on a 5 game winning streak (something like that)

edit 2 - another thing that I admire about this guy is he didn't complain once about his ice time, about going to Hartford for conditioning, his role, nothing. a real stand up professional in that respect.


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Wolski should do well for you guys. He needs to play in a top 6 role w/ top 6 minutes. He just simply was not getting that chance in NY. Torts has his top 6 pretty much set and WW didn't fit in. A large part of this was because he was injured early this season and by the time he got back the top 6 spots were filled in and in Torts system, you start on the bottom 6 and work your way up to earn a go on the top 6 and WW just isn't the type of player who can play well in a bottom 6 role with bottom 6 players. He's extremely skilled and has a good shot but really needs to play with someone who can elevate his game. He isn't the type to make his linemates better. He needs to play with those type of players. He's also lethal in shootouts, scoring over 50% of the time. If you guys try to spread the scoring out and play him with Weiss, (putting Fleischmann and Versteeg with another center) he'll be in the best position to do well.
Can he play rw?

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Can he play rw?
I'm not sure if he ever has.. guess we will see.

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If healthy and motivated he could be a good pick-up. I remember he was great for Coyotes after they got him at the deadline in 09-10 (18 points- including 6 goals- in 18 regular season games and 4 goals in the playoffs). Our team is also very similar to that 09-10 Coyotes team as well (predicted to be one of worst teams in league, team of cast-offs, both had players' coaches in Dineen and Tippett) so he could definitely pay off.

Also his shootout stats can be very deceiving, since in 08/09 he was 10/12 and in 09/10 he was 1/15. Granted, in all other years he's pretty much 50/50 in the shootouts which is good but the HUGE discrepancy in those two years is worrisome.

All I have to say is if he does play well DO NOT re-sign him, as his reputation as a floater is well-earned. After that great run in 09/10 (18 points in 18 games) the next season he had 16 points in 36 games (that's right 2x the game, 2 less points) with the Coyotes before mercifully being traded to Rangers.

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I'm not sure if he ever has.. guess we will see.
Yeah, I don't think he ever has either. We have a glut at LW and especially if they start Huby at LW next season and we re-sign Wolski. Although Flash can move to RW, but that would mean permanently breaking up the 1st line.

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Just got home to find out about this deal. For the most part, I like it. Sure, a bit of an overpayment with a 3rd rounder being moved, especially since Wolski is an RFA. If he works out here, it could be a steal. He should definitely help us in shootouts and that alone could get us a few extra points in the remainder of the season if we got the win due to him scoring. I think maybe he's the type of player that needed a change of scenery and didn't fit into the Rangers lineup. He's shown potential in past seasons before and is still at the age that his play can be turned around if in the right situation. I'm excited to see how him and Smithson play tonight.

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Yeah, I don't think he ever has either. We have a glut at LW and especially if they start Huby at LW next season and we re-sign Wolski. Although Flash can move to RW, but that would mean permanently breaking up the 1st line.
Cool, I'd have no problem with that.

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There's really not much of a downside here (unless you are Panthers ownership and signing his paycheck.)

The biggest / best news as Panthers fans is that management is spending money to win. No, it's not mega-bucks, but between Madden & Wolski, they are throwing another $1.5M (it's real money people) on the table that they could otherwise put into their offshore accounts. Have to give them credit.

It's not the way things have been done here in the past.

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02-25-2012, 04:07 PM
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Can he play rw?
i haven't seen him play RW before. i'm sure he can but can he play it well? IIRC he actually ends up on the RW a lot even though he's a LW, because he's a lefty. Does that make him out of position or in position to shoot? If you guys like to criss-cross coming in the zone, he'll work well with that.

edit: another thing i'll add is that playing under Torts has probably taken quite a bit of the "floater" label on him. He's not gonna be a hustle machine like Ryan Callahan but unless the coaches don't hold him accountable, he understands what it is to work hard and will probably arrive to your team in extremely good condition, motivation, and with a big jump to his step.

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i haven't seen him play RW before. i'm sure he can but can he play it well? IIRC he actually ends up on the RW a lot even though he's a LW, because he's a lefty. Does that make him out of position or in position to shoot? If you guys like to criss-cross coming in the zone, he'll work well with that.
Well, our 1st line does that a lot but that's pretty much it because the other lines aren't skilled enough to do it, the 2nd line occasionally. But that could change next season. It depends which line and who he plays with.

But yeah, I think he's skilled enough where he might be able to pull off playing on his offwing without much problem. We'll see I guess.

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Should we even expect him to be back next year?

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Should we even expect him to be back next year?
We'll have a better idea of that a month from now.

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Should we even expect him to be back next year?
If he plays well down the stretch, it's very possible. He is a shootout specialist and those are invaluable so he's got that going for him too. If he plays well here, I'd like him back, as the free agent pool isn't that great and Wolski would have proven chemistry with our players. Plus he's a RFA and I'm sure Tallon would get him signed to a very reasonable deal because he'll say that he has to prove himself a bit more after 2 off-seasons, so Wolski would be much cheaper than signing a UFA top 6 forward.

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If he plays well down the stretch, it's very possible. He is a shootout specialist and those are invaluable so he's got that going for him too. If he plays well here, I'd like him back, as the free agent pool isn't that great and Wolski would have proven chemistry with our players. Plus he's a RFA and I'm sure Tallon would get him signed to a very reasonable deal because he'll say that he has to prove himself a bit more after 2 off-seasons, so Wolski would be much cheaper than signing a UFA top 6 forward.
I agree, just saying he has to prove himself again first.

And I like this type of move. I was saying it all along, too; we needed a cost-efficient move and so far we've made a couple.

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Should we even expect him to be back next year?
Highly depends on what he does for us down the stretch.

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I agree, just saying he has to prove himself again first.

And I like this type of move. I was saying it all along, too; we needed a cost-efficient move and so far we've made a couple.
Yeah, and it's important, because we only have 10 picks over the next two drafts now. So we made those picks we gave up count by not getting rentals and by not giving up any high picks. I can't see us giving up any more picks, at least not if we aren't getting any picks back.

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I'm a tad late on everything, but I really like the move.
Always liked Woltek, he's young, talented and is a big help for us in the shootout. It would be nice to have a center to pass him the puck, but we'll see about that.

Let's see what he gives us before talking about resigning him.

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I guess I'd put him on a line with Samuelsson and Mathias. Does he play C or W ?

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