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GOP Primary/Debate Thread II: Just Another Democrats Bashing Republicans Thread
I don't understand how Romney is going so well in Arizona, other than the fact that none of the "major" contenders seem to be emphasizing the kinds of things Arizona Republicans tend to care about. He just seems like too much of a slick east coast money man for Arizona's crowd though.
I don't understand how Romney is going so well in Arizona, other than the fact that none of the "major" contenders seem to be emphasizing the kinds of things Arizona Republicans tend to care about. He just seems like too much of a slick east coast money man for Arizona's crowd though.
This shouldn't be surprising considering how John McSame keeps winning election after election and yet most who vote for him still hate him with a passion.
I don't understand how Romney is going so well in Arizona, other than the fact that none of the "major" contenders seem to be emphasizing the kinds of things Arizona Republicans tend to care about. He just seems like too much of a slick east coast money man for Arizona's crowd though.
Thankfully I did not grow up here, I'm still capable of critically thinking through things.
Neither did I and the over 70% of the Metro Phoenix Population that wasn't born in AZ. Hell, most of the people who live here in AZ were not born in AZ for this state is a melting pot within the melting pot.
Neither did I and the over 70% of the Metro Phoenix Population that wasn't born in AZ. Hell, most of the people who live here in AZ were not born in AZ for this state is a melting pot within the melting pot.
That apparently has not stopped them from electing people who don't know a thing about sound public policy, or the meaning of limited government.
This state's stance on education is abysmal, and higher ed. is about to take a serious hit. The economy is hurting, and people are for some ungodly reason worried about illegal immigration and abortion.
This state's stance on education is abysmal, and higher ed. is about to take a serious hit. The economy is hurting, and people are for some ungodly reason worried about illegal immigration and abortion.
It is terrible.
Who was elected the AZ Gov 2 times before Jan Brewer took over in this "Radical Right Wing" State called Arizona?
Who was elected the AZ Gov 2 times before Jan Brewer took over in this "Radical Right Wing" State called Arizona?
I've never mentioned radical anything in AZ, thanks.
Napolitano barely won in 2002, and was an incumbent in 2006, running on what appears to be a fairly center-left platform. That doesn't mean things have not changed (become more problematic) since she left office.
Why do the media seem to obsess over the wealth of Romney? Like being wealthy is somehow a bad thing? I saw an article today which criticized the man for owning multiple Cadillacs. How is that legitmate news? How does that effect his ability to govern? And don't give me the "he doesnt understand the common man's struggle" ********. FDR inherited tons of wealth (from opium trade) and is heralded as a deity on the left. Didnt seem like he had too hard of a time "relating" to the common man.
Why do the media seem to obsess over the wealth of Romney? Like being wealthy is somehow a bad thing? I saw an article today which criticized the man for owning multiple Cadillacs. How is that legitmate news? How does that effect his ability to govern? And don't give me the "he doesnt understand the common man's struggle" ********. FDR inherited tons of wealth (from opium trade) and is heralded as a deity on the left. Didnt seem like he had too hard of a time "relating" to the common man.
Because people are leery of others that don't share their common perspective. And having lots of money can definitely change your perspective.
I don't hold his money against him, but in this day and age, it's an easy target. Jealousy being a powerful emotion and all.
Because people are leery of others that don't share their common perspective. And having lots of money can definitely change your perspective.
I don't hold his money against him, but in this day and age, it's an easy target. Jealousy being a powerful emotion and all.
There has not been a legitimate candidate in YEARS that will "share a common perspective" with the majority of the populace.
Now if people are jealous, thats understandable. Stupid though, and tells you alot about the individual. Not somebody who I'd trust to select the leader of our country.
There has not been a legitimate candidate in YEARS that will "share a common perspective" with the majority of the populace.
Now if people are jealous, thats understandable. Stupid though, and tells you alot about the individual. Not somebody who I'd trust to select the leader of our country.
I hear you. (and agree)
Regarding his wealth, I actually appreciate his unapologetic nature. (or maybe he's just obtuse?) It's not going to sit well with the hand-out crowd, though.
I hear you. (and agree)
Regarding his wealth, I actually appreciate his unapologetic nature. (or maybe he's just obtuse?) It's not going to sit well with the hand-out crowd, though.
More like it sounds really bad to argue the free market will help people and have run a capital firm that cut down companies. Won't sit well with anyone in a struggling economy.
I hear you. (and agree)
Regarding his wealth, I actually appreciate his unapologetic nature. (or maybe he's just obtuse?) It's not going to sit well with the hand-out crowd, though.
Yep, I always found it interesting that people who literally contribute nothing (or a negative) to a system have a legitimate say in how that system distributes the wealth of others.
More like it sounds really bad to argue the free market will help people and have run a capital firm that cut down companies. Won't sit well with anyone in a struggling economy.
Private equity is incredibly helpful to our economy. You can't be this thick.
Private equity is incredibly helpful to our economy. You can't be this thick.
I just gave you the democratic party line. I'm not saying I believe it, but the bottom line is that those actions DO sound bad in a world where unemployment is widespread.
It's funny to see the other Republican candidates attack him. Yeah he's super rich but it's not like the other candidates don't have net worth higher than 1 million.
It's an easy target though. People get jealous easy so why not go afteer him? And if you can make his job description sound bad, why not?
I understand people not liking private equity but for the most part these people destroy very little jobs in the short run - and once they sell off the company, it's usually in OK shape and will hire back that 1% (on average loss) plus more workers.
I just gave you the democratic party line. I'm not saying I believe it, but the bottom line is that those actions DO sound bad in a world where unemployment is widespread.
They sound bad to morons, I agree. Unfortunately, those same morons are able to significantly influence how much of my money they get to keep.
I've never mentioned radical anything in AZ, thanks.
Napolitano barely won in 2002, and was an incumbent in 2006, running on what appears to be a fairly center-left platform. That doesn't mean things have not changed (become more problematic) since she left office.
Arizona isn't that republican - McCain only won it by about 7 points, and it's his home state. There are a lot of hispanics and a lot of Midwest transplants in Arizona. Plus it's pretty heavily urban - like 2/3 of the population lives in the Phoenix metro area.
But the republicans that ARE there tend to be way right of center. Santorum isn't polling well there because he's big among evangelicals, and that is less common among AZ residents than many other states. The Arizona republicans tend to be more "stay the hell out of my life" than "let's make America a Christian theocracy," and Santorum is more autocratic than anyone else running.
